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Asher
18-07-2005, 19:13:46
So a bunch of us interns at work were discussing intellectual things as usual. I was mentioning how both English, German, and French were derived from the Latinic Dialect, which itself was a derivative of Dutch, and therefore the word "Envoy" was not derived from French.

As I would hope any idiot could figure out, this conversation was in jest.

This guy, probably in his late 20s and ugly as hell, was following us a bit in the hallway. He decided to interject: "Sorry to interrupt you guys here, but actually English is one of the few languages not derived from Latin, but from German."

We just had blank stares -- was this guy for real?

He was. :(

Koyaanisqatsi
18-07-2005, 19:19:30
....too easy.

Oerdin
18-07-2005, 19:40:58
German is not derived from the Latinic Dialect, not even close. Also English is related to Fresian not Dutch though old Saxon is closer still. Either way English has incoperated large amounts of Latin via French.

Edit: OK, it was a joke.

MDA
18-07-2005, 20:11:43
*points and laughs at Oerdin*

Beta1
18-07-2005, 20:11:52
and thats what passes for humour over there?

Lurker the Second
18-07-2005, 20:12:50
He's Canadian.

Asher
18-07-2005, 20:13:37
Originally posted by Beta1
and thats what passes for humour over there?
It was mostly practice in improv BS, a skill we use all the time when talking to customers.

protein
18-07-2005, 20:49:45
You mean you were all trying to impress each other and some annoying bastard came along and made you look stupid so you posted the story on the internet and changed the story in a way that made the person who made you look stupid look stupid?

Now I look stupid, that was one long sentence.

mr.G
18-07-2005, 21:25:08
Originally posted by Asher
So a bunch of us interns at work were discussing intellectual things as usual. I was mentioning how both English, German, and French were derived from the Latinic Dialect, which itself was a derivative of Dutch, and therefore the word "Envoy" was not derived from French.

As I would hope any idiot could figure out, this conversation was in jest.

This guy, probably in his late 20s and ugly as hell, was following us a bit in the hallway. He decided to interject: "Sorry to interrupt you guys here, but actually English is one of the few languages not derived from Latin, but from German."

We just had blank stares -- was this guy for real?

He was. :(

:fingers in both ears:
nannnnie nannnie nannnie

Asher
19-07-2005, 00:13:30
Originally posted by protein
You mean you were all trying to impress each other and some annoying bastard came along and made you look stupid so you posted the story on the internet and changed the story in a way that made the person who made you look stupid look stupid?

Now I look stupid, that was one long sentence.
Err...yes, you do look stupid, because he wasn't right in the first place...and we were obviously not being serious either.

Latinic being the basis of English, which was derived from Dutch? Come on.

The stupid people here was that guy and the people defending him.

The Norks
19-07-2005, 01:10:49
Originally posted by Asher
So a bunch of us interns at work were discussing intellectual things as usual. I was mentioning how both English, German, and French were derived from the Latinic Dialect, which itself was a derivative of Dutch, and therefore the word "Envoy" was not derived from French.

As I would hope any idiot could figure out, this conversation was in jest.

This guy, probably in his late 20s and ugly as hell, was following us a bit in the hallway. He decided to interject: "Sorry to interrupt you guys here, but actually English is one of the few languages not derived from Latin, but from German."

We just had blank stares -- was this guy for real?

He was. :(

Modern English is derived mainly from Latin, French and the Germanic languages. Its basically a record of our invasions lol, although Germanic is not quite the same as German I would still say he was part right, although slightly deluded if he can't see the Latin influence.

Asher
19-07-2005, 01:12:05
Part right does not equal right. FACT.

The Norks
19-07-2005, 01:17:25
well I doubt if he's trying to pass himself off as a linguistics professor, so *shrug*

Asher
19-07-2005, 01:18:49
He interrupted the conversation of people he didn't know at all, so that's just as bad.

protein
19-07-2005, 01:19:41
The English language is a West Germanic language that originated in England from Old English (Anglo-Saxon), which in turn developed from languages brought by settlers from areas in modern northern Germany and Denmark.

Unless there's some sort of terribly funny and ironic in joke in which you make fun of people for being correct, you are the one that looks stupid.

protein
19-07-2005, 01:22:19
Originally posted by Asher
He interrupted the conversation of people he didn't know at all, so that's just as bad.
I reckon if some young cocky lads were arrogantly talking absolute shite about a subject I knew lots about I might be tempted to interject. I probably wouldn't though. That's more the type of thing that a geek would do.

Asher
19-07-2005, 01:23:57
Originally posted by protein
I reckon if some young cocky lads were arrogantly talking absolute shite about a subject I knew lots about I might be tempted to interject. I probably wouldn't though. That's more the type of thing that a geek would do.
If they were talking something completely absurd I wouldn't waltz in and "correct" them, it shows just how clueless or condescending they are in the first place.

protein
19-07-2005, 01:29:52
I agree. There must be lots of people like that in your business.

Shining1
19-07-2005, 02:37:41
Irony meter is off the scale for this thread... =)

Asher
19-07-2005, 04:02:01
Can I PhD that?

Sir Penguin
19-07-2005, 04:41:17
Originally posted by protein
Unless there's some sort of terribly funny and ironic in joke in which you make fun of people for being correct, you are the one that looks stupid.
He wasn't correct. English shares Germanic and Romantic influences about equally.

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/cond-mat/pdf/0108/0108530.pdf

SP

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 10:36:59
Originally posted by Asher

Latinic being the basis of English, which was derived from Dutch? Come on.

That is SO true!!! :mad:

Point for Asher, if someone was spouting bullshit in a serious manner, I would laugh and hope for him he was joking, in stead of trying to make myself look good by correcting him.

Nills Lagerbaak
19-07-2005, 10:42:44
Originally posted by Asher
Part right does not equal right. FACT.


Any logical statement followed by "FACT" does not equate to a proof. Q.E.D

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 10:44:44
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Any logical statement followed by "FACT" does equate to a poof. Q.E.D

Funko
19-07-2005, 10:46:17
Yeah, of course it is a proof - FACT.

Funko
19-07-2005, 10:47:08
As Einstein said "The speed of light in vacuum is a constant in all frames of reference - FACT!"

Nills Lagerbaak
19-07-2005, 10:47:20
Originally posted by Funko
Yeah, of course it is a proof - FACT. is not equal to a proof. Q.E.D

Funko
19-07-2005, 10:48:18
It's not minus FACT.

Koyaanisqatsi
19-07-2005, 10:52:19
It's a negative fact?

Funko
19-07-2005, 10:53:35
It's some kind of linking punctuation - FACT

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 10:53:46
Originally posted by Funko
Yeah, of course it is a proof - FACT. Who are you backing up here???

Funko
19-07-2005, 10:54:44
You I think.

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 10:58:18
Did you read what I 'wrote'?

Vincent
19-07-2005, 10:59:36
And why is there a dutch word for Rome (Romtje) and not a latin word for Amsterdam? Well?

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 11:01:10
Amsterodamus was founded by the Batavieren, but later taken over and expanded by the romans, who gave it it's current name.

Koyaanisqatsi
19-07-2005, 11:01:27
Can't name every insignificant city, can they?

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 12:54:54
You live in New Amsterdam, don't you?

Koyaanisqatsi
19-07-2005, 12:56:29
Nope, Corinth. Which I'm pretty sure the Romans had a name for. :)

Dyl Ulenspiegel
19-07-2005, 13:03:19
Every language is derived from Bavarian, as the Bavarians are direct descendents of Noah; our native home was the region around the Ararat - FACT!

Drekkus
19-07-2005, 13:09:18
Too insignificant to come up with an original name, eh?

MoSe
19-07-2005, 13:18:21
ZIS KLASIK VIL SOLV ZE OL DISPJUT!

Fwd: Universal language

European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, the British government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c." Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy.

Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k". Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "w" by " v".

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

Und efter ze fifz yer, ve vil al be speking German like zey vunted in ze forst place....

Koyaanisqatsi
19-07-2005, 13:19:48
Homage, Drekkus....homage.