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The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:12:43
I have just been told by my current employers that I will have to pay for two compulsory exams I have taken since I started work last year. This will be about 200 deducted from my final months wages.

It was in the contract that I had to take these exams to 'aid my development' so I had to take them.

Can they deduct the money from my final wages? What rights do I have? We don't have a union. :(

I'm really, really, really pissed off at the moment and I have a week of my notice period left.

Funko
11-07-2005, 09:13:51
I don't know, but it definitely sucks. :(

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:21:26
I know of three people that have left before me and not had to pay anything.

mr.G
11-07-2005, 09:24:16
try to get the financial compensation from your new company, that is the normal way around here, but hey what's normal in Holland and in architecture.

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:24:31
...and another thing. My company knew from Day One that I intended to move into IT and that this job in insurance was far from permanent.

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:29:11
Originally posted by mr.G
try to get the financial compensation from your new company, that is the normal way around here, but hey what's normal in Holland and in architecture.

The exams were based on Insurance yet my new job is in IT; I doubt they would pay anything out and it's not the best first impression to make.

mr.G
11-07-2005, 09:38:44
maybe Dyl can say something schjmart and doooo di doooo some legal voodoo sjit.

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:39:27
Yeah, it'd be hugely appreciated.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
11-07-2005, 09:42:16
Sorry, that's a very specific issue of national labour law - no idea how this is in England. Do the employment tribunals or unions offer first advice?

All I can say is that here, such deductions have to be exlicitly stated in the contract, and are only legal if they serve a clear work related purpose and only cover actual costs.

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 09:44:25
I was forced to do these exams otherwise I'd be in breech of contract; even though they knew that I intended to persue a career elsewhere. I just can't see how they can force me to pay the money back due to their negligence.

Funko
11-07-2005, 09:46:46
I don't see how they can if they didn't tell you you were going to have to pay for them.

Provost Harrison
11-07-2005, 10:35:23
I've been through this too when I had some issues in this respect. Unless this has been agreed to prior this is an illegal deduction and is a breach of contract. You have every right to sue if they do it...

Funko
11-07-2005, 10:37:10
In that case, dropping the following phrases in carefully selected conversations might be productive "my solicitor says" "illegal deduction" "breach of contract" "see you in court motherfucker" :)

Oerdin
11-07-2005, 10:38:44
In the US employers will often pay for development classes for employees but if you leave before a certain amount of time has passed then you must repay the employer for the cost of the classes.

Provost Harrison
11-07-2005, 10:41:27
Of course if this is stipulated in the contract that if you leave before a certain amount of time (I'd check that one up before you do anything) then you won't be able to do anything about it.

Gary
11-07-2005, 10:53:38
Originally posted by The Higgelhoff
We don't have a union. :( I see... making the same mistake I am eh ?

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 11:09:41
Apparentely it is stipulated in the contract... basically I'm f*cked.

Funko
11-07-2005, 11:23:26
Shit. :(

mr.G
11-07-2005, 11:25:11
kick a seagull on your way home
gives a big relief, or say something sjtoepid to ben, he won't understand you and that's funny.

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 11:31:52
I've just been told it's 325!

I have contacted my future employers and they have received both references and are drawing up contracts. Should I just walk out?

I'm seething!

mr.G
11-07-2005, 11:34:51
first begin with a nice fart
like prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffft that will teach them.

This sucks Matt, do you have CGtime at home?
otherwise stay

Provost Harrison
11-07-2005, 11:35:09
Ouch!

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 11:36:57
Originally posted by mr.G
first begin with a nice fart
like prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrfffffffffffff ffffffffffffffffffft that will teach them.

This sucks Matt, do you have CGtime at home?
otherwise stay

Yeah, as much CG time as at work :D

Provost Harrison
11-07-2005, 11:37:27
All I can do is ditto my advice to BGH ;)

mr.G
11-07-2005, 11:37:36
okay,
go man
you have my permission

mr.G
11-07-2005, 11:38:22
and don't forget to kick a seagull

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 12:06:05
I'm leaving work now. I won't be recommending Esure to anyone.

mr.G
11-07-2005, 12:14:29
:lol:
have fun you, and don't forget to kick a seagull

insurance sucks big time, welcome to your new life.

Oerdin
11-07-2005, 12:16:16
I'm surprised they didn't just pay you off for your two weeks and let you leave. Most employees who are leaving don't care much about their work and employers know it so many just pay you the extra money and say good bye.

Provost Harrison
11-07-2005, 12:26:21
Originally posted by The Higgelhoff
I'm leaving work now. I won't be recommending Esure to anyone.

Calm down dear, they're only a bastard company to work for!

The Higgelhoff
11-07-2005, 13:37:55
I'm at home now.... fuckers!

mr.G
11-07-2005, 13:54:28
kicked a seagull?