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Funko
07-07-2005, 10:06:46
http://www.itn.co.uk/news/13569.html

Emergency services were called to London's Liverpool Street station after an explosion at 8.49am and British Transport Police said the incident happened on the Metroplitan Line and may have been caused by two trains colliding, a power cut or a power cable exploding.

A London Ambulance Service spokeswoman said: "We have just sent some resources out to the scene. We have sent a number of vehicles to Liverpool Street station."

British Transport Police confirmed that there are "walking wounded" and said paramedics have responded to one report of a person classed as "life at risk".

"There are walking wounded, but that is as much as we know at the moment," said the spokesman.

He confirmed that the incident took place on the Metropolitan Line between Aldgate and Liverpool Street and said the line has been evacuated.

King's Cross, Liverpool Street and Aldgate stations have also been cleared




ITN link 'cause the BBC site is down!?! :eek:

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:07:12
Oh it's back now.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:09:52
OMG
sorry

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:12:43
rumours going round work of a bomb on a bus near russel square.

This is going to be bad

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:13:35
bbc website is down

Gramercy Riffs
07-07-2005, 10:14:18
I've heard that rumour too. A double decker apparently.

A day after the Olympic announcment, very suspect.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 10:14:27
It was pretty chaotic getting here this morning, and I suspect it's going to be even worse getting home tonight :(

The whole network is shut down now.

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:16:28
Official line is "power surge".

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:17:44
And according to the BBC eyewitnesses

"People don't seem to be panicked, but there's so many police and ambulances coming into the areas. People are just concerned, and some are just annoyed at the delay."

I can imagine.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 10:17:59
They were blaming power failures the whole time I was trying to get here.

There's all sorts of rumours flying though, bombs at stations, bombs on buses, crashed overground trains.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:18:12
cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/07/07/london.tube/index.html)"We believe there was some sort of explosion. There are some walking wounded at Aldgate. "We are not sure of the scale of the incident. Reports are still coming in."

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:20:08
I swear it has nothing to dooo di dooo with my visit last week.
before you know it Bells will contact scotland yard

No longer Trippin
07-07-2005, 10:21:57
Now you pissed of the French and have suicidal french terrorist in your subways.

Resource Consumer
07-07-2005, 10:24:58
My money is on the power surge - the electrics on the tube are neanderthal (if that is not a contradiction in terms)

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:28:27
apparently the rumour is the bus was on edgware road not russell square. The edgware road webcam shows long queues at the north end and the marble arch web cam is off line for "operational reasons" which is not usually a good sign - thats what they say when the police take them off line when theres protest marches etc.

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:31:16
eyewitness report on the radio, explosion on a bus at tavistock square, described the front of the bus as "compeltely blown away"

lightblue
07-07-2005, 10:32:36
Same on bbc, explosion near a bus near Russel Square, definitely not some power surge anymore.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 10:32:48
What on earth is going on, this is actually quite scary.

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:34:07
Sydney Morning Herald is reporting a bus exploded

http://smh.com.au/news/world/several-hurt-in-london-explosions/2005/07/07/1120704485774.html?oneclick=true

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:34:23
just hope for the best overthere.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 10:35:32
Sounds like an Israeli style suicide bomber in a way.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 10:36:41
My friend works in Tavistock Place and has just been phoned by the BBC to confirm if there's been an explosion there

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:37:06
you have friends?

notyoueither
07-07-2005, 10:38:38
Damn.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:38:49
damn this is bad

A police spokesman said there were "quite a large number of casualties" at Aldgate Station

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 10:40:06
Police have now confirmed the Tavistock Place expolsion

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:41:42
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4659093.stm

Scotland Yard have confirmed the bus explosion. Apparently at least 6 explosions so far.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 10:50:37
Tourist says it was possibly a tourist bus.

protein
07-07-2005, 10:51:07
Fuck me.

Anyone in London?

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:52:02
Tizzy, Beta1, Provost Harrison, RC...

protein
07-07-2005, 10:53:36
DOn't leave the office.

protein
07-07-2005, 10:54:03
Not just yet anyway.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 10:54:45
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:55:04
I think I'm far enough outside the center to be ok - even if they try something at hammersmith I'm a good half mile away from that. Theres been a stream of ambulances heading away from the hospital though. Fortunately the girlf is at st georges in tooting at the moment, if this had been 2 weeks ago she would have been at gt ormand street which is jsut off tavistock square....

Keith is probably most central.

Funko
07-07-2005, 10:55:10
Difficult isn't it. Tizzy's in Westminster which is a prime target area but from the sounds of it it's better to be inside than outside.

Rodgers
07-07-2005, 10:55:21
Originally posted by lightblue
Tourist says it was possibly a tourist bus.


Could be Israeli or American tourists perhaps? (being the targets not blaming them ;))

Someone just said to me "the BMA has it's headquarters in Tavistock Place - maybe they were after them" :lol:

Beta1
07-07-2005, 10:55:38
shit, Tizzy - HIDE UNDER THE DESK FOR THE REST OF THE DAY

lightblue
07-07-2005, 10:56:33
Reported explosion near Liverpool St.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 10:57:33
there's only 3 explosions according to the beeb- I'm watching News 24.

I take that back...they've just reported one going off in a street near liverpool St.

Suspiciously an American tourist near Russell Sq when the bus exploded said 'ordinary Londoners' were immediately herding people behind buildings in case there was a secondary explosion.

Ordinary? :hmm:

The Norks
07-07-2005, 10:58:51
Originally posted by Funko
Difficult isn't it. Tizzy's in Westminster which is a prime target area but from the sounds of it it's better to be inside than outside.

I imaginethe reason they've targeted the outside is because everyone expects it in Westminster where the security is hot

fp
07-07-2005, 11:00:12
Oh fuck. :(

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 11:00:52
Originally posted by Beta1
shit, Tizzy - HIDE UNDER THE DESK FOR THE REST OF THE DAY

I really should have stayed in bed this morning.

fp
07-07-2005, 11:02:24
A client has just told me that the radio is saying that all transport into London has been stopped. Cars, trains, everything.

Trains from the north aren't being allowed any closer to london than peterborough. obviously the authorities are shit scared to be taking those kind of precautions.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:02:48
Reports of 90 casualties (wounded/dead) at Aldgate.

notyoueither
07-07-2005, 11:03:07
I'd like to hope everyone is OK, but it's pretty obvious that not everyone is going to be OK. Blah.

I hope everyone I 'know' is safe. Take care of yourselves.

Beta1
07-07-2005, 11:03:13
radio said nothings coming closer than reading on the paddington lines.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:04:37
Train crash at Kings Cross according to BBC reporter.

Spartak
07-07-2005, 11:07:51
Have we accounted for all our London based posters?

fp
07-07-2005, 11:08:11
I assume the planes will have been grounded too.

Funnily enough, no clients appear to be ringing us up at the moment - all glued to the TV I guess. The quiet in this usually busy office is making everything seem all the more eerie.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:09:15
makes you wonder what else they're expecting

One thing I do know from my mum (who is resources mananager for the nhs berks ambulance trust) is that London and the home counties have their major incident procedures well in place, well practiced, and if London ambulance run out of staff, we start sending berks crew out there. So from that point of view we have excellent emergency planning. They have NBC suits and all that.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:09:58
Originally posted by Spartak
Have we accounted for all our London based posters?

Provost?

Funko
07-07-2005, 11:11:44
And RC.

King_Ghidra
07-07-2005, 11:12:46
doh

fp
07-07-2005, 11:12:56
RC posted in this thread. Provost hasn't shown up yet.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:13:01
fuck me- Swindon and Brighton stations now evacuated :eek:

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:13:23
Reports of incidents at Swindon and Brighton stations.

notyoueither
07-07-2005, 11:13:50
Originally posted by The Norks
makes you wonder what else they're expecting

Air traffic across NA and border crossings for vehicles were shut down for days after the WTC disaster.

Fact is the authorities need time to get a handle on just what to expect or not in some circumstances.

I'll bet a fiver the G8 meeting ends abruptly.

fp
07-07-2005, 11:13:56
Don't say that man. My g/f got a train to Swindon this morning......

Funko
07-07-2005, 11:14:07
I missed RC's post.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 11:14:30
Provost lives on the outskirts of London, and works even further out, so hopefully ok

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:15:00
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659093.stm

map here showing about 6 explosions excluding the one outside liverpool st

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:15:08
Originally posted by fp
Don't say that man. My g/f got a train to Swindon this morning......

I hope she's alright. They mention a security incident, so it might just have been jittery police reaction to an abandoned bag or something.

zmama
07-07-2005, 11:15:21
Crap,

please all be safe!

fp
07-07-2005, 11:17:13
Originally posted by lightblue
I hope she's alright. They mention a security incident, so it might just have been jittery police reaction to an abandoned bag or something.

Knowing her, it was probably her bag. :D

I'm trying to make light of it, but to be honest I'm terrified. It's probably nothing, but even a 1% chance of her being hurt is more than enough.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 11:22:37
Originally posted by fp
Knowing her, it was probably her bag. :lol:

hang in there, probably everything all right, pleezz take a big beer when you see her. :beer:

Rodgers
07-07-2005, 11:22:54
Originally posted by lightblue
Train crash at Kings Cross according to BBC reporter.


No - it was 2 underground trains colliding near KC.

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 11:23:05
Rich shouldn't be anywhere near central London, if he's working the late shift he might even be asleep.

Beta1
07-07-2005, 11:24:25
I know what you mean.

I'm going for lunch in about 20 minutes, dont panic if I dont post for an hour or so.

fp
07-07-2005, 11:24:41
Originally posted by mr.G
:lol:

hang in there, probably everything all right, pleezz take a big beer when you see her. :beer:

I finally managed to get through to her mobile. She's fine, but very worried about her brother and sister, who both commute into central london. It's difficult to feel happy at a time like this, but at least she's OK.

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 11:25:47
Just let us know when you get back Beta

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:26:29
Originally posted by fp
Knowing her, it was probably her bag. :D

I'm trying to make light of it, but to be honest I'm terrified. It's probably nothing, but even a 1% chance of her being hurt is more than enough.

hun they didnt mention an explosion, I think it was a precautionary evacuation. Every rail station in England is probably on red alert right now. Beeb certainly arent reporting blasts there.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:27:21
Someone on Poly saying martial law has been declared and soldiers in Covent garden and Buckingham Palace.

fp
07-07-2005, 11:27:24
Originally posted by The Norks
hun they didnt mention an explosion, I think it was a precautionary evacuation. Every rail station in England is probably on red alert right now. Beeb certainly arent reporting blasts there.

When you hear things like that all rational sense goes out of your head. :D

Beta1
07-07-2005, 11:32:07
Originally posted by lightblue
Someone on Poly saying martial law has been declared and soldiers in Covent garden and Buckingham Palace.

thats been on the radio too, not the martial law bit but they are reporting the army are in covent garden

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:32:47
Al Quaeda has been mentioned now Arab sources say it was 'almost certainly' them.

Funko
07-07-2005, 11:32:56
Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Rich shouldn't be anywhere near central London, if he's working the late shift he might even be asleep.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:33:04
BBC says arab sources say Al-Qaeda is almost certainly to blame.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:33:39
At least 2 fatalities at Aldgate.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:33:50
Originally posted by fp
When you hear things like that all rational sense goes out of your head. :D

I know, its horrible, my Dad worked in Westminster during the IRA's heyday. That was fun :(

Funko
07-07-2005, 11:34:17
Originally posted by The Norks
Al Quaeda has been mentioned now Arab sources say it was 'almost certainly' them.

Guessed it must be.

We've been on their hitlist for ages. Was going to happen sooner or later. :(

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:34:35
Originally posted by Beta1
thats been on the radio too, not the martial law bit but they are reporting the army are in covent garden

hmm... I think it would take more than this to declare martial law.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:35:26
Was supposedly an eyewitness account on sky news, not an official source, so probably exaggerated.

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 11:39:15
An MSN buddy of mine lives right by Tavistock Square, she's okay fortunately.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 11:41:26
Bliar makig a statement at midday

MDA
07-07-2005, 11:42:53
:( Good thoughts. Thinking good thoughts.

Gary
07-07-2005, 11:44:20
Soldiers at Buckingham Palace is hardly unusual :)

lightblue
07-07-2005, 11:45:28
Depends if they wear funny uniforms or not..

fp
07-07-2005, 11:45:29
I bet the security around the G8 summit in Edinburgh has gone absolutely mental.

King_Ghidra
07-07-2005, 11:46:40
i think that's the default state

Funko
07-07-2005, 11:50:34
Originally posted by lightblue
Depends if they wear funny uniforms or not..

As well as the onshow guards there are plenty in normal uniforms hiding around the place, and there's a barracks close by.

protein
07-07-2005, 11:51:50
Yup, the army are on the streets to take pressure off the emergency services who are very, very stretched.

notyoueither
07-07-2005, 11:55:42
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i think that's the default state

If it goes ahead, there will most likely be soldiers in every field, wood, and rabbit warren. That's not the default state.

I said I'd bet they cancel it. I changed my mind. You can't have the leaders of the G8 scurrying around at the prompting of lunatics. Forget ever having another meeting.

You do make a very public display of security when appropriate though.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 11:56:55
Hmm, "the one we were expecting" has been said.

My sisters boyf works on the 52nd floor of canary wharf. Not a nice place to be, can anyone confirm if they;ve evacuated it?

Tizzy
07-07-2005, 11:57:17
I'm off, try and make it out of here before Waterloo ends up closed too.

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 11:58:45
My source in Canary Wharf says "no, they haven't".

protein
07-07-2005, 11:59:13
Apparently Russel Sq not only had the bus explosion but a tube attack too. They must have done the tube first and then the bus to get the people escaping.

At least 20 ambulances reported there.

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 11:59:31
Cllr Linders says:
someone on Counterglow is asking if they've evacuated Canary Wharf...
Peter says:
No
Peter says:
they haven't
Peter says:
Canary Wharf is locked up pretty tight with buses purposefully blocking at least one entrance, and the place is crawling with police, inc swat types
Peter says:
prob the safest place in London
Peter says:
The London Clearing House was evacuated earlier, not sure if they're back

protein
07-07-2005, 12:00:15
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Hmm, "the one we were expecting" has been said.

Yup. In retaliation for Iraq methinks. Ironic since most of the dead would have been against the war.

Kitsuki
07-07-2005, 12:00:46
Originally posted by fp
Don't say that man. My g/f got a train to Swindon this morning......

Don't worry - its a precaution in Swindon. (have councillor friends who have been briefed) :)

lightblue
07-07-2005, 12:00:54
Originally posted by Tizzy
I'm off, try and make it out of here before Waterloo ends up closed too.

I think all train and bus services in and out london are suspended, according to the metropolitan police commisioner on the bbc.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:00:54
Good news on canary wharf.

MDA
07-07-2005, 12:01:10
buses were packed due to people being diverted from the trains when they exploded.

Smart bad guys.

Coworker pointed out that it made sense to try something like this, because it worked so well in Spain. :( Not that it makes sense to blame Spain for what terrorists did, but I guess they didn't discourage it very much.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:01:28
Now I'm going to be totally shitting myself until Ann gets in touch again.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:02:57
she kicks that ALQUADA guys way back to AlQUADALAND. go Ann go Ann

lightblue
07-07-2005, 12:03:30
Blair leaving G8!

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:03:36
Originally posted by protein
Yup. In retaliation for Iraq methinks. Ironic since most of the dead would have been against the war.


Same in New York weren't it. Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't most of the anti-war protests there?


Yeah, I guess the wharf is pretty safe, unless there's
a) ALready a bomb in there as some kind of finale
b) The plane stunt is used.

Shit I wish I hadn't thought that. Keep safe MG

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:05:10
If it's Al Qaeda we were on their hitlist well before Iraq.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:05:49
were we? I disn't think so.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:06:22
Blair looked actually very moved.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:07:16
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
were we? I disn't think so.

Yep.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 12:07:17
He might have more accurate casualty reports.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:07:39
just saw Blair on tv,
very nice statement, I'll bet this is one of those times you britts can be proud of the man.

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 12:07:48
We certainly were.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:07:53
Originally posted by The Norks
Blair looked actually very moved.

What did he say?

Why wouldn't he be really moved?

fp
07-07-2005, 12:08:24
Who wouldn't be? Plus remember that he has family and friends living in London too. He isn't actually Satan, you know, despite what some people will have us believe.

fp
07-07-2005, 12:08:48
major x-posting there

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:08:57
So what did he say?

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:09:19
his voice was full emotion but strong.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:10:11
yeah I guess so, I'm just used to his gloss, but his voice was a bit wobbly and he looked a bit teary.

He's flying down to London today for briefing and will fly back to Gleneagles this evening to continue G8. From what he said its pretty clear they think its Muslim Extremists

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:10:16
he is not leaving G8 meet

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:11:29
I'll tell you what- there ain't nobody coming out of that bus alive. Its mashed.

notyoueither
07-07-2005, 12:11:54
Originally posted by Funko
So what did he say?

He's leaving the G8 for the day to go to London.

The bad guys are not going to prevail.

lightblue
07-07-2005, 12:12:11
He said he was.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:13:27
Originally posted by mr.G
he is not leaving G8 meet

he said he was but just to be briefed by police etc then will fly back.

I cant help wondering if that's the game plan- distract the emergency services, then pull off something really big somewhere else.

Maybe I've seen too many Bruce Willis films

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 12:15:59
Originally posted by The Norks
I'll tell you what- there ain't nobody coming out of that bus alive. Its mashed.

From what I read the top deck is mangled but the bottom bit wasn't. I'd say you're right about the top deck though.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:16:24
I think this is already the big one, it sounds huge.

Wish I had TV news.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:16:37
Originally posted by Funko
Yep.

Well, I bet nothing on this scale.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:17:37
Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
From what I read the top deck is mangled but the bottom bit wasn't. I'd say you're right about the top deck though.

the back was all blown out too. Maybe a couple in the front lower deck could have survived, but it looks bleak.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:18:17
Charles Clarke (home sec) to make a statement shortly

*End Is Forever*
07-07-2005, 12:19:30
Originally posted by The Norks
the back was all blown out too. Maybe a couple in the front lower deck could have survived, but it looks bleak.

Is there a picture of it online?:(

dv8ed
07-07-2005, 12:20:52
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?postid=3900839#post3900839

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:21:22
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home

pictures

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:25:43
Originally posted by Resource Consumer
My money is on the power surge - the electrics on the tube are neanderthal (if that is not a contradiction in terms) poor RC

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:27:53
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Well, I bet nothing on this scale.

9/11 was before Iraq.

Al Qaeda (if it was them) don't really give a shit about Iraq. They might be using it but their greivances are mainly about Israel and Western presence in Saudi. I don't think it's made them want to blow us up more. Their statements before Iraq were really strong in their condemnation of us, nearly as strong as against the US.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:31:38
True, true, but as you say their main grievance was support of Israel, which correct me if I'm wrong we don't have a lot to do with.

protein
07-07-2005, 12:33:26
A group "Al Qaida In Europe" has just claimed responsibility on a German website. They say it is in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:33:28
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4659933.stm

Blair speech

apparently an islamist group claiming responsibility

Rodgers
07-07-2005, 12:34:04
There was a bus blown up outside my old Uni in the mid-90s. Looked similar to this one but not that many on it actually were killed (surprisingly).

Also, there are quotes on BBC website from commuters on tube trains who were in the next carriage to the bombs. They're fine - makes you wonder how much explosive they actually used for these things.

protein
07-07-2005, 12:35:56
I remember saying this would happen a long, long time ago. I also remember saying (much to some American's annoyance) that Iraq would be an absolute cock up and their new Vietnam.

We lost quite a few posters because some of us said all this and well, we were right.

fp
07-07-2005, 12:36:40
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
True, true, but as you say their main grievance was support of Israel, which correct me if I'm wrong we don't have a lot to do with.

You mean apart from absorbing middle-eastern countries into our empire and then, instead of giving them back to the arabs, giving some of their holiest religious sites to the jews? Apart from that we didn't do much....

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:36:51
Originally posted by *End Is Forever*
Is there a picture of it online?:(

I havent seen one, but its graphically obvious on TV that its destroyed.

Just seen some of the casualties- nasty.

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:37:14
Can we leave the politics at least for today? I really can't stomach talking about it.

Had a call from Tizzy, she's on a train at waterloo which leaves for Reading in 10 mins.

fp
07-07-2005, 12:37:42
Originally posted by protein

We lost quite a few posters because some of us said all this and well, we were right.

Congratu-fucking-lations.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:37:48
Originally posted by protein
I remember saying this would happen a long, long time ago. I also remember saying (much to some American's annoyance) that Iraq would be an absolute cock up and their new Vietnam.

We lost quite a few posters because some of us said all this and well, we were right.

fairly obvious really.

protein
07-07-2005, 12:38:53
Originally posted by The Norks
I havent seen one, but its graphically obvious on TV that its destroyed.

Just seen some of the casualties- nasty.
Yup, the whole back and roof of the bus is missing. If that was just explosives strapped to someone then it was pretty powerful stuff.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:39:37
Originally posted by Funko
Can we leave the politics at least for today? I really can't stomach talking about it.

Had a call from Tizzy, she's on a train at waterloo which leaves for Reading in 10 mins. good news Mike, take the day of man and go drink a large supah beer

Funko
07-07-2005, 12:40:42
People keep asking me about work stuff.

Wankers.

I'll stop worrying when she's back in Reading and hidden in a pub or something.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 12:41:17
I kept having dreams last year about red double decker buses full of people dead and injured in London, and the streets swarming with people and police. There was a date written down in the dream but I've forgotten it now. Spooky.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 12:41:31
nice Xpost

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:42:43
Originally posted by fp
You mean apart from absorbing middle-eastern countries into our empire and then, instead of giving them back to the arabs, giving some of their holiest religious sites to the jews? Apart from that we didn't do much....

True.

Still it wasn't mainly the Brits who "got religion" and decided to go and settle on someone elses land.

Anyway, that's enough of the politics from me. No one will want to hear my karmic retributuion philosophies anyway.

Fingers crossed for everyone!

fp
07-07-2005, 12:49:56
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak

Still it wasn't mainly the Brits who "got religion" and decided to go and settle on someone elses land.


Not for the past few hundred years anyway. :D

But yeah, I think the politics can wait a while.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 12:50:12
He is, he's returning later.

My thoughts to all londoners for what's happenning. Hope no-one you know was injured in the attack. Or no-one I know, for that matter!

fp
07-07-2005, 12:52:32
Originally posted by The Norks
I kept having dreams last year about red double decker buses full of people dead and injured in London, and the streets swarming with people and police. There was a date written down in the dream but I've forgotten it now. Spooky.

Why didn't you warn everybody? OMG it's all your fault!!!!1!11! ;)

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 12:54:17
Never mind that. She's a witch! Burn her.

Lurker the Second
07-07-2005, 12:56:29
Believe it or not, I am thankful you lot are safe.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 12:57:27
Originally posted by Funko
Al Qaeda (if it was them) don't really give a shit about Iraq. They might be using it but their greivances are mainly about Israel and Western presence in Saudi. I don't think it's made them want to blow us up more. Their statements before Iraq were really strong in their condemnation of us, nearly as strong as against the US.

All true, but missing the point a bit. Western intervention in Iraq has been a goldmine for recruitment to extremist organisations, including al-qaeda. Thousands of pissed-off arabs have been joining the ranks or been pushed futher out towards extreme acts... In the hearts-and-minds war against terrorism, Iraq was a major blunder from the western powers.

protein
07-07-2005, 12:57:51
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41277000/jpg/_41277449_bus_close_reader.jpg

Beta1
07-07-2005, 12:58:08
Originally posted by Funko

Had a call from Tizzy, she's on a train at waterloo which leaves for Reading in 10 mins.

Excellent, I'm back from lunch now, all quiet on the west london front but theres been a load of ambulances heading for charing cross hospital about 30minutes ago

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 12:59:59
That bus looks like it could have been quite empty.

fp
07-07-2005, 13:01:03
At that time in the morning, with the trains having just been stopped, it's likely to have been pretty full. You can't really tell from that picture either way, though.

mr.G
07-07-2005, 13:04:12
sorry bad joke

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 13:05:20
Ten in the morning in July is a busy time for buses? I find that doubtful.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 13:06:27
Originally posted by fp
Why didn't you warn everybody? OMG it's all your fault!!!!1!11! ;)

well even if anyone believed me its a bit useless without actual facts attached. The last dream I had was just before NYE, and then they stopped.

Beta1
07-07-2005, 13:06:35
Not when the tubes are out it isnt, you often cant get on a bus then...

Funko
07-07-2005, 13:06:52
Yeah, it was.

All the tubes were shut down so everyone was late, getting moved onto busses.

Plus it's school holidays, height of tourist season. London is very busy.

You can watch Blair's speech on CNN now. Good speech

http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/world/2005/07/07/sot.uk.blair.blast.cnn&checkAgain=false&wm=native_nm

fp
07-07-2005, 13:07:05
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Ten in the morning in July is a busy time for buses? I find that doubtful.

The commuters would still have been trying to get to work since the trains were shut down before 9am. And I duobt a suicide bomber would find the emptiest bus they could find to detonate themselves on.

I don't know why I'm arguing this, though, I don't want it to have been a busy bus. Here's hoping it was mostly empty.

King_Ghidra
07-07-2005, 13:07:14
yeah, in a strange (and highly relieved) way i don't understand why they didn't detonate all these things at like 8.30 when the rush hour was at its peak

The Norks
07-07-2005, 13:09:01
Originally posted by fp
The commuters would still have been trying to get to work since the trains were shut down before 9am. And I duobt a suicide bomber would find the emptiest bus they could find to detonate themselves on.

I don't know why I'm arguing this, though, I don't want it to have been a busy bus. Here's hoping it was mostly empty.

According to eyewitnesses it was pretty full, sorry :(

fp
07-07-2005, 13:10:48
I also don't know why they target capital cities on significant dates. Sure it's all very symbolic, but if you really want to create terror you'd strike at random, at any place and at any time. Then people would really be scared 'cos you'd never feel safe.

Anyway, thank goodness they're dumbasses. We'd really be in deep shit if they had half a brain.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 13:13:31
they want maximum publicity so they've executed one attack after another, and on a day when a lot of world press are in London

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 13:15:21
I seem to have been wrong:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4659387.stm

Awful. :(

Resource Consumer
07-07-2005, 13:33:10
Originally posted by mr.G
poor RC

I would have lost a packet........

Funko
07-07-2005, 13:38:06
Although the news got out slowly, apparently this all happened at around 8:50 so it was peak time...

Greg W
07-07-2005, 13:40:08
Wow, that's bad news. Believe it or not, this is the first I have heard of it. Hope that nobody knows anyone that was injured or killed. Bad mojo.

Sad thing is I am expecting it to happen in Australia one day too. :(

mr.G
07-07-2005, 13:42:07
Originally posted by Resource Consumer
I would have lost a packet........ well you lose your wallet several times so....

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 13:42:27
"Two killed in seven explosions across London" ?!?! Surely the Beeb is running behind. How can they have confirmed only two dead by this point?!?

Funko
07-07-2005, 13:43:55
I'm just glad that number isn't growing rapidly already. Don't know if it's a good sign or not. Hope it stays low. :(

Gary
07-07-2005, 13:46:03
Some news sources wait for 'better' confirmation, some rush to be first and take the risk of being wrong.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-07-2005, 13:46:23
Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_London_transport_explosions) is pretty good at picking up all the rumours and organising them correctly.

Greg W
07-07-2005, 13:46:37
Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/news/general/12-dead-scores-injured-in-london-blasts/2005/07/07/1120704485774.html?oneclick=true) site is stating:Near simultaneous explosions rocked the London Tube and three double-decker buses at morning rush hour today, killing at least 12 and injuring 185 people:eek:

Chris
07-07-2005, 13:46:45
What a thing to wake up too on my vacation, turn on the TV and see a terror attack.

Horrible.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 13:47:04
the services won't confirm the dead and injured yet but expect it to increase drastically

Chris
07-07-2005, 13:50:28
I have Sky news on here, they are reporting 2 dead and 90+ injuries, at least 7 seperate explosions.

The uncomfirmed rumor is of a suicide bomber.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 13:52:18
Why Brighton and Swindon?! That makes no sense at all.

Funko
07-07-2005, 13:54:16
I think it was just security alerts, not acutal bombings...

fp
07-07-2005, 13:58:06
Plus they are on major lines into London.

Greg W
07-07-2005, 13:58:59
Jeese, just saw a news flash. Suggesting unconfirmed reports of 30 dead 300+ injured. :(

Resource Consumer
07-07-2005, 14:00:05
Station closures used to happen at Guildford regularly during the IRA raiilway station attacks in the late 1980s/early 1990s

fp
07-07-2005, 14:00:16
It's all pure speculation at this point. There won't be any truly reliable casualty figures for a few hours yet, I'd say. There's little consistency about the number of explosions, even.

Greg W
07-07-2005, 14:01:14
Yeah, bit it's not good. Not good at all. :(

fp
07-07-2005, 14:02:33
I'll be amazed if the final casualty tally turns out to be that low. :(

Funko
07-07-2005, 14:02:53
Yeah, me too. Let's hope it's as low as possible.

fp
07-07-2005, 14:05:49
Our stockbrokers are starting to get a little frazzled. They've been taking non-stop calls for the past four hours from people yelling "sell! sell!" down the phone at them.

IMHO, if your first reaction to this is "I'd better sell my shares!" then you're pretty fucked up in the head.

fp
07-07-2005, 14:06:31
Speaking of which, I should at least vaguely look like I'm doing some work I suppose...

Chris
07-07-2005, 14:08:53
The Sky news web site has a timeline:

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13382111,00.html

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 14:09:02
Yeah, I was in the gas trading dept. at British Gas when 9/11 happened, eveyone was like Buy! Buy!

Traders think about one thing and one thing only!

Funko
07-07-2005, 14:09:09
Good time to buy shares.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 14:13:09
Yeah, I wonder if Osama made a few bob again?

fp
07-07-2005, 14:13:11
You're not the only one with that idea Mike. The FTSE 100 dropped 200 points almost immediately and then jumped straight back up 100 points as people tried to buy up the cheap shares. Not sure where it'll end up when the dust settles.

protein
07-07-2005, 14:20:43
scotland yard sources say 1000 injured, 150 of them seriously. 45 dead.

Debaser
07-07-2005, 14:23:04
That second Blair statement with all the other leaders standing behind him was cool as fuck. They looked like the untouchables.

Apparently early reports from rescuers at the Kings Cross explosion are very bad casualty wise...

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 14:24:22
mr. Bush?! Why do I have be Mr. BUSH?


Poor old Kings X.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 14:25:24
Think I'd better explain...I got the untouchables mixed up with resevoir dogs.:o :o :o

fp
07-07-2005, 14:28:03
Because after all they're so similar, aren't they? ;)

JM^3
07-07-2005, 14:28:56
crap

:(

JM

mr.G
07-07-2005, 14:32:24
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
mr. Bush?! Why do I have be Mr. BUSH?


Poor old Kings X. you mr pink you

protein
07-07-2005, 14:32:35
Originally posted by Debaser
That second Blair statement with all the other leaders standing behind him was cool as fuck. They looked like the untouchables.

Apparently early reports from rescuers at the Kings Cross explosion are very bad casualty wise...
Yup, there are at least 45 body bags needed.

novacane
07-07-2005, 14:38:12
Oooh, you insensitive soul :p

mr.G
07-07-2005, 14:41:01
huh

Debaser
07-07-2005, 14:41:36
http://photos22.flickr.com/24239454_82e085edf5.jpg

See, thay look badass....

fp
07-07-2005, 14:42:33
Chriac is French, he always looks like that.

novacane
07-07-2005, 14:43:19
I think the suspension of congestion charging for the day sends out the wrong signals. It just encourages drivers to detonate homemade explosives in Central London in order to dodge the charge. This could lead to anarchy.

protein
07-07-2005, 14:46:30
It could lead to anchovy.

Funko
07-07-2005, 14:47:27
Originally posted by novacane
I think the suspension of congestion charging for the day sends out the wrong signals. It just encourages drivers to detonate homemade explosives in Central London in order to dodge the charge. This could lead to anarchy.

I don't understand that. Who'd be heading into London anyway?

Funko
07-07-2005, 14:49:54
Ok, finally got Five Live working

Rudy Gullianni (former New York Mayor) is talking at the moment, apparently he was just by Liverpool St when the attacks took place!

Talk about bad luck!

Chris
07-07-2005, 14:55:11
Rudy could be an albatross.

Gary
07-07-2005, 14:56:08
Originally posted by fp
IMHO, if your first reaction to this is "I'd better sell my shares!" then you're pretty fucked up in the head. Sure are ! One buys when the market falls, not sells.

Ah ha, I read on and see the point's been made.

Rodgers
07-07-2005, 14:56:15
Originally posted by novacane
I think the suspension of congestion charging for the day sends out the wrong signals. It just encourages drivers to detonate homemade explosives in Central London in order to dodge the charge. This could lead to anarchy.


:lol:


(sorry...)

Funko
07-07-2005, 14:57:27
You can tell he works in traffic planning.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 14:58:09
Originally posted by Funko
Ok, finally got Five Live working

Rudy Gullianni (former New York Mayor) is talking at the moment, apparently he was just by Liverpool St when the attacks took place!

Talk about bad luck!

Ruddy hell! You're kidding.

Spartak
07-07-2005, 14:59:26
Originally posted by Funko
I don't understand that. Who'd be heading into London anyway? collecting stranded people?

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 15:00:01
Ghouls and rubberneckers.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:03:39
Apparently there is an effort being made now to organise some trains to go into London so that the people in the commuter belt can get home.

Spartak
07-07-2005, 15:04:02
Perhaps. I preferred my explanation but you are probably right.

King_Ghidra
07-07-2005, 15:10:51
yeah it's a bit crazy, there must be thousands and thousands of people wondering if they can get home tonight, and i can guarantee the travel lodges and suchlike in Reading are probably booked to the rafters already

Caligastia
07-07-2005, 15:11:34
Does anyone know if any of the explosions went off on the trains or buses that service Clapham? My sister lives there and I haven't heard from her.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:11:58
French PM Dominique de Villepin: "The French government places itself at the disposal of British authorities to bring them our assistance and our co-operation."

Aww.. that's really sweet of you Dom, thanks. :beer:

I :heart: France

we won the olympics and you lost. hahaha. you suck and our food is nicer than yours

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:16:42
Originally posted by Caligastia
Does anyone know if any of the explosions went off on the trains or buses that service Clapham? My sister lives there and I haven't heard from her.

The blasts are quite a long way from Clapham but services do go across london.

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:17:03
I'm sure she'll be fine.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 15:20:20
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fp
French PM Dominique de Villepin: "The French government places itself at the disposal of British authorities to bring them our assistance and our co-operation AND SOME DECENT FUCKING FOOD."

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:20:38
:lol:

fp
07-07-2005, 15:23:27
Hmm ... I wonder what kind of stuff we can get them to do.

"In this time of shock and mourning at the terrorist attacks in London I, Tony Blair, would like to ask our French friends if they would kindly AGREE TO SCRAPPING THE FUCKING C.A.P!"

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:26:25
Fatality reports coming in

On the trains...
7 in first blast
21 in second
5 in third

Bus blast, no confirmed numbers yet

total of 4 devices, no warning for police and no claims of responsibility to the police

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:30:43
And the injury reports are incredibly light. The ambulance chief is saying the numbers are as follows:

33 dead + bus deaths
45 serious injuries
300 minor injuries

I thought it was going to be a lot worse than that.

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 15:32:05
Does anyone remember the combined total of the Brixton and Whitechapel nail bombings?

fp
07-07-2005, 15:32:21
It still might be, but yes those are encouraging numbers. Official sources tend to err on the side of caution, though, so it will still go up.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:34:30
I've just seen a picture on the Times website of the BMA building (the bus was outside there when it blew). There is literally blood sprayed all over the wall. It's a horrifying and amazing picture. Quite a lot of people will have died there by the looks of things. Perhaps as many as everywhere else put together if those numbers Funko posted are accurate.

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:34:54
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Does anyone remember the combined total of the Brixton and Whitechapel nail bombings?

3 bombs, 3 dead around 100 injuries.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:38:42
:(

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 15:40:46
Wow! High speed film

Caligastia
07-07-2005, 15:45:34
Originally posted by Funko
The blasts are quite a long way from Clapham but services do go across london.

I don't think her work is very far from where she lives, so hopefully that means she is ok.

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:49:26
Yeah. I think she's probably fine then.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:49:56
If she lives and works near Clapham she wouldn't have had any reason to go near the danger zones. I'm sure she'll be fine.

fp
07-07-2005, 15:50:17
x-post

The Norks
07-07-2005, 15:52:52
Mum just told me Berks sent ambulance crew up to London, so it must have taken a lot of resources from right around the home counties. She also said they've been expecting something for 3-4 months although they didnt know what. The plans all seem to have been executed like clockwork tho. From what she tells me, we have pretty amazing procedures in place

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:54:54
The guy on the radio just said this is "the deadliest day on the tube" because the Kings Cross fire killed 31 and this killed 33.

I'm sure everyone's pleased to see that record go. YOU FUCKING TWAT! :rolleyes:

Nills Lagerbaak
07-07-2005, 15:57:49
Same day as the world has a new tallest man!

The Norks
07-07-2005, 15:57:55
I must say I'm very impressed with the stoicism and resolve of Londoners. I saw a girl with blood running down her leg saying to a reporter 'oh its nothing really' and apparently loads of people have just carried on shopping and stuff.

Funko
07-07-2005, 15:58:34
That's the scene out of National Lampoon's European Vacation where they run over Eric Idle.

The Norks
07-07-2005, 16:05:29
lol, but we are like that as a nation. If this happened in Italy they'd be diving all over the pavements and wailing :D