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Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
30-06-2005, 23:36:38
No, really. Dead dogs walking the earth.

Great story, but the real killer is the picture:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,15739502-13762,00.html

The Norks
30-06-2005, 23:41:39
:lol:

Provost Harrison
30-06-2005, 23:52:17
That's not a hot dog :D

Diss
30-06-2005, 23:59:00
this is huge news!

I'm really surprised this hasn't received more attention in the press.

Surely this could disprove (or prove) the existence of the afterlife.

They need to do this on humans. Maybe we can get rid of this religious stuff once and for all.

jsorense
01-07-2005, 01:27:42
Did they feed them brains?

The Norks
01-07-2005, 02:33:28
how can it prove or disprove an afterlife? religious types will just say that you dont find out until you truly cross over

MDA
01-07-2005, 03:35:41
You could argue they never really died - they just stopped for a bit.

MDA
01-07-2005, 03:36:43
Beautiful plumage.

Gary
01-07-2005, 08:48:54
The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead !

Diss
01-07-2005, 10:40:24
Originally posted by MDA
You could argue they never really died - they just stopped for a bit.

it seems pretty dead to me.

unless you argue that the soul resides within all the individual cells, and until the cells start degrading, the sould remains.

but yeah, there are a lot of arguments you could make. they could claim you just can't remember the afterlife.

As I would suspect a person would have no memory of such an experience.

I really want to see this done on humans soon though. So they can say they had no thought in that state (which they shouldn't with no brain activity).

Provost Harrison
01-07-2005, 11:03:40
Well if you can resurrect the dead at will (in this controlled manner anyway) it does finally prove what a load of old codswallop the afterlife is...

Funko
01-07-2005, 11:07:45
If they try it on people and people don't remember an afterlife it only proves that if there is an afterlife you can't remember it when you are brought back.

Logically speaking anyway.

Very difficult to scientifically prove there isn't an afterlife and this doesn't do it.

Provost Harrison
01-07-2005, 11:11:30
Well you can use all sorts of excuses to justify the afterlife, but it never did stand up to scientific scrutiny in the first place...it just makes it all the less plausible...especially for something like reincarnation...

Funko
01-07-2005, 11:17:21
Has anyone concieved of an experiment to test it? Is that even possible? You can't measure it. It's a question that's mainly been attempted by philosophy not science.

Something to think about is that preachy athiests can be as annoying/offensive to some people as preachy religious types can be - FACT

Provost Harrison
01-07-2005, 11:27:32
Well the nature of afterlife, God, etc, is convenient to the religious in that it cannot be scientifically scrutinised. But on the other hand nor do they have any evidence for it. So it's just like any other fairytale. Prove the toothfairy does/doesn't exist...

MDA
01-07-2005, 11:33:47
If there's a God, its not likely you can use freezing ice water to fool him into thinking you're dead. That whole omnipotence thing gets in the way.

Add in the fact that its us mere mortals that are making our own definition of "death" and it makes my head spin.

fp
01-07-2005, 12:55:05
Originally posted by Funko

Something to think about is that preachy athiests can be as annoying/offensive to some people as preachy religious types can be - FACT

Amen brother!

Funko
01-07-2005, 12:58:24
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well the nature of afterlife, God, etc, is convenient to the religious in that it cannot be scientifically scrutinised. But on the other hand nor do they have any evidence for it. So it's just like any other fairytale. Prove the toothfairy does/doesn't exist...

Ok, get me 1000 children of tooth losing age, 1000 beds and 1000 video cameras...

And a good lawyer!

The Norks
01-07-2005, 13:02:10
Originally posted by Funko
Has anyone concieved of an experiment to test it? Is that even possible? You can't measure it. It's a question that's mainly been attempted by philosophy not science.

Something to think about is that preachy athiests can be as annoying/offensive to some people as preachy religious types can be - FACT

Hallelujah!

As I've often said before, just because you can't prove or disprove something with current science, doesnt mean it isnt true.

Some of us like to keep an open mind.

Funko
01-07-2005, 13:03:12
Yes, but that doesn't mean you can't disprove some of the things you think can't be disproved. ;) :cute: :D

The Norks
01-07-2005, 13:07:09
Funko giveth, and Funko taketh away....

Look my position has always been that we basically know about 0.0000001% of all the knowledge of the universe, and that also there are some pretty odd coincidences and experiences out there, classed as religious or supernatural to some people. I think we should just keep open minds and investigate stuffs.

Science changes all the time, so it annoys me when people treat it like a set of absolutes.

Venom
01-07-2005, 13:12:44
This place is so Poly now.

Gary
01-07-2005, 13:37:17
Naw, not enough ads

Funko
01-07-2005, 13:43:53
Originally posted by The Norks
Science changes all the time, so it annoys me when people treat it like a set of absolutes.

Yeah, no good scientist would do that. :beer:

Gary
01-07-2005, 13:45:54
Absolutely

Funko
01-07-2005, 13:46:28
:lol:

The Norks
01-07-2005, 14:16:32
Originally posted by Funko
Yeah, no good scientist would do that. :beer:

and yet....

Funko
01-07-2005, 15:49:17
And yet what?

We can say some stuff is not true, but that's different from assuming all scientific theories are absolute facts. Big difference.

The Norks
01-07-2005, 15:59:35
and yet...

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:02:08
And yet some people act like twats? Same with everything.

The Norks
01-07-2005, 16:03:17
whats crawled up your arse and died?

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:03:37
Huh?

:confused:

What did I do?

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:03:58
or - how on earth did you smell that fart? It's bad but you are miles away?

The Norks
01-07-2005, 16:05:19
maybe I read what you said the wrong way.

Nonetheless... i suggest we resolve it in the only reasonable way-

JELLY WRESTLING!

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:06:03
You must have done!

I'm not wrestling lime, lime jelly is wrong.

The Norks
01-07-2005, 16:07:23
lets do raspberry! with pips!

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:12:54
Like the outside of a starburst except that's strawberry.

The Norks
01-07-2005, 16:17:12
that sort of thing yes.

CG JELLY PARTY!

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:18:08
Starbursts are great these days. I had one the other day, really strawberry!

Nills Lagerbaak
01-07-2005, 16:27:21
Are you tripping? How can you compare starburst with fruitella. No comparison. Fruitellas make you wince they're so juicy,

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:32:51
I'm talking about the ice lollys with ice cream in the middle.

Nills Lagerbaak
01-07-2005, 16:39:09
OMG. We need a fruitella ice lolly. drooooooooool

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:40:16
What about a nutella ice lolly?

Nills Lagerbaak
01-07-2005, 16:44:15
Hmm, would be a bit too much like a feast.

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:46:01
You don't have to eat all three..

Nills Lagerbaak
01-07-2005, 16:58:51
Ho ho ho.

Funko
01-07-2005, 16:59:53
Green Giant.

Funko
01-07-2005, 17:00:15
Corn lolly?

Nills Lagerbaak
01-07-2005, 17:03:41
mmm. I reckon corn ice cream would be delicious.

TauCeti@Japan
01-07-2005, 17:38:14
Mmmm, corn ice cream.

Haven't seen that yet, but they have bean and sesame ice cream flavours over here. Both are a disturbing gray (grey? Which is British?) colour, but fairly tasty, actually.

The Norks
01-07-2005, 17:51:15
lick my bean

*snigger*

Funko
02-07-2005, 14:14:31
http://arnoldgamboa.com/main/bean.jpg

Provost Harrison
02-07-2005, 14:15:26
:lol:

Cumber
02-07-2005, 15:08:45
However rather than sending people to sleep for years, then bringing them back to life to benefit from medical advances, the boffins would be happy to keep people in this state for just a few hours,

But even this should be enough to save lives such as battlefield casualties and victims of stabbings or gunshot wounds, who have suffered huge blood loss.

Someone's supposed to be stabbed and presumeably not able to be got to medical facilities to save their lives right away, but could be got to facilities to drain their blood and replace it with 7C saline solution?

I suppose if the life saving surgery itself would take too long and even in a hospital environment they were unable to keep the victim alive while operating 'live'.

Or are they envisaging handheld automatic cryostasis kits in every household?

Provost Harrison
03-07-2005, 00:29:23
I've got one under the sink! What is your problem? :p

BigGameHunter
06-07-2005, 03:59:02
Back to that pesky soul topic...did I hear somwhere that the human body weighs a fraction less at death than in life, or is that an urban myth?

Not that I understand why the purported soul would weigh anything at all...err...of course.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
06-07-2005, 05:10:44
The guy who did the soul weight experiments was shown to have fudged the miniscule amount of data he gathered. There's webpages about it, I can't be bothered looking myself. That topic is dead as far as I'm concerned.

MDA
06-07-2005, 12:07:13
New topic: How many angels can you fit on the head of a pin.

I'm sure no one's thought about that before.

Funko
06-07-2005, 12:07:36
6

mr.G
06-07-2005, 12:08:36
7

Tizzy
06-07-2005, 12:09:40
9 if they're dwarf angels

BigGameHunter
07-07-2005, 00:40:58
Don't forget all the pygmies that have gone to Heaven...no...wait, they're in Limbo sense they are not baptized but do not have knowledge of God.
Never mind.

Could be some real fat angels (not too many cause of that Gluttony thing) could somehow affect your formula...Funko better show us the +/- on angels on a pin formula.
The best I could do was the over/under.