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MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 15:44:04
Just had the wife take in my VW Golf to get a new clutch. I've just had a phone call saying that the clutch wire has just snapped and he wants another 30 to get a new one.

Should I say it's his own fault for snapping it or has he got the right to demand extra money?

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 15:49:06
*advice

Venom
26-05-2005, 15:52:46
That was my question. Was it supposed to be advice, or is advise the English way of saying things.

Also, never piss off the car people, or something else on your car will get broken. It's like yelling at restaurant people. Only do that after you've eaten.

Japher
26-05-2005, 16:15:15
Tell 'em that it's fine, and argue about it before you pay. And then never take your car there again.

Funko
26-05-2005, 16:18:42
VW Golf hey, boy racer!

Lurker the Second
26-05-2005, 16:19:12
Sometimes those things wear out, you know.

DevilsH@lo
26-05-2005, 18:13:37
What year Golf is it Matt???

There isn't alot you can do about it once it's occured i had a brake hose split during an over zealous MOT which of course i had to pay to replace. Unless you are happy to take the car back all but undriveable then get them to fit the cable, unless you can balance shift, in which case you could get it home without a clutch.

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 18:58:59
I told him I wasn't willing to pay for labour fitting the new cable as it was partly his fault for being careless anyway. Only ended up paying 18 for the new cable thankfully.

Mechanics piss me off, I know for a fact you can fit a new clutch in three hours and he charged 5 hours labour. Defintely never going there again.

It's a MKV Golf. I only got it fixed so I can sell it as it was buggered. I'm getting a new car in October. I'm torn between and older Audi A4 or a new MG ZR.

Venom
26-05-2005, 19:06:32
By the way. You're gay for driving a VW Golf.

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 19:13:50
VW Golf is a great car. They retain their value, unlike most other cars. I'm going to advertise my car next week, and I know it will be sold within a few days due to the popularity of them.

They're so cheap to maintain, stylish, spacious and very safe in a crash. You really can't beat German vehicles.

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 19:18:25
The only SUPER GAY thing is, I'm looking after my gf's sister's VW Lupo for a few months while she goes to America.

It's not only a Lupo.... it's Lilac :nervous:

Lurker the Second
26-05-2005, 19:39:55
A VW Golf is very much a girl's car over here. Especially if it's a convertible.

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 19:48:57
I'm not surprised considering the huge monstrous cars you have over there. I don't know why it has a reputation for being a boy racer's car in the UK.

They are made out of tungsten and weigh 20 tonnes. I can run faster.

Venom
26-05-2005, 19:57:45
Probably a lot of mods for them. Like the mid level Mitsus and Hondas.

But yes, it's very much not a man's car here. At least not a straight man.

Funko
26-05-2005, 20:15:30
It very much is a boys car here but then isn't anything short of a huge truck with 3 gun racks a bit gay to you Venom?

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 20:29:26
The cars I am looking at getting:

MG ZR ( Rover folded so they are dirt cheap, can pick up one for 5,000)

Audi A4 ( Lovely car, expensive though so I'd have to get one a couple of years old )

Land Rover Discovery ( Father-in-law has one and I think they're great. )

BMW 3-Series ( Coming down in price, reliable and rear wheel drive. Fun to drive! )

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 20:34:56
Audi A4

http://www.edmunds.com/media/reviews/top10/04.luxury.under.45K/04.audi.a4.500.jpg



MG ZR

http://www.mg-sportcars.co.uk/XPOWER/images/2004-ZR.jpg



Land Rover Discovery

http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/ford/land-rover/discovery-3/DISCOVERY_3_30-450-253.jpg

Venom
26-05-2005, 20:50:28
Get the Discovery.

Venom
26-05-2005, 20:50:58
Originally posted by Funko
It very much is a boys car here but then isn't anything short of a huge truck with 3 gun racks a bit gay to you Venom?

No, most of those cars are wussy cars. Golfs are for queers.

Oerdin
26-05-2005, 21:13:25
Originally posted by MattHiggs

They're so cheap to maintain, stylish, spacious and very safe in a crash. You really can't beat German vehicles.

VW is always getting written up for poor quality in the states. The quality ratings all say that Toyota, Honda, and GM are the best (and in that order).

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 21:15:10
:eek:

I'm surprised!

Oerdin
26-05-2005, 21:15:50
BTW the ZR is a kids car but you've got a kid and are looking to get married so you should buy a larger family car. If you like MG's then maybe a newish example of MG's version of the Rover 75. Mechanically that's the newest of the MG/Rovers.

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 21:39:01
The ZT 1.8 + (120ps) 4d is defintely something I've been looking at. They're hard to find at the moment. They're group 10 insurance which is very low for a big car.

Provost Harrison
26-05-2005, 21:44:48
That is quite low for a car of that size. The question is, at your tender age, how much is the insurance going to set you back anyway? Mind you, a Golf is pretty pricey for insurance due to it's popularity with twats ;)

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 21:52:58
I work at an insurance company so insurance price up to about group 16 isn't a problem. ;)

Provost Harrison
26-05-2005, 21:55:52
Bah! The bastards seem to get away with daylight robbery...I hate insurance companies...

The Norks
26-05-2005, 21:57:34
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
What year Golf is it Matt???

There isn't alot you can do about it once it's occured i had a brake hose split during an over zealous MOT which of course i had to pay to replace. Unless you are happy to take the car back all but undriveable then get them to fit the cable, unless you can balance shift, in which case you could get it home without a clutch.

DH can smell the car threads like a shark

MattHiggs
26-05-2005, 22:03:48
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Bah! The bastards seem to get away with daylight robbery...I hate insurance companies...

It's a risk transfer mechanism. You can insure yourself if you like - if you prove you have te finances to cover a multi-loss of life accident :p

Provost Harrison
26-05-2005, 22:09:50
Any excuse, capitalist swine :p

Oerdin
26-05-2005, 22:58:34
If I lived in the UK I'd be very tempted by an MG ZT 260 V8 just from the "forbidden fruit" factor since we can't/couldn't get them stateside. Since I'm not married and don't have kids I'd likely go for a nice late model MG TF fitted with one of those after market turbochargers. Though a nice Lotus Elise wouldn't be that expensive since they sell for around $45k new here in the states.

DevilsH@lo
27-05-2005, 03:36:14
Wouldn't touch an MG of any description, yeah they are rock bottom prices but the amount of faults and shoddy workmanship on them is awful.

Last top gear they were talking about how the engines are BMW and Honda items so no problem there with servicing, but servicing isn't going to stop the MGF's from leaking, it isn't going to stop the panel lines from being all over the shop.

They are poorly built in my honest opinion, and i wouldn't go near one with someone else's money never mind my own.

You are buying a rover 400, with some max power stick on bits on the front and rear oh and a cosworth disowned head on a honda block.

That "heat shield" on the rear of the car to stop the exhaust melting the bumper ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh please fuck right off.

Matt unless the brand new rover is around 3,500 i wouldn't go near it and then only if you can afford to throw that 3.5k at a car that could cause you serious problems.

Greg W
27-05-2005, 04:07:10
I had a mate that worked at Range Rover down here, in CS. He wouldn't go near any of their products with a 12 foot pole.

mr.G
27-05-2005, 07:44:51
Listen to Lurker


he knows

Oerdin
27-05-2005, 08:27:23
Yeah, I've heard they're crap but the interesting point of the MG ZT 260 V8 is that is uses Ford engines and transmitions which are covered under warrenty by Ford. The rest of the MGs lost their warrenty when the company went tits up.

Granted there are still a great many things that can go wrong on a car but at least the drive train is rock solid.

Oerdin
27-05-2005, 08:28:48
BTW a friend of mine owns a 2004 A4 3.0 Quattro and he loves it to death. Personally, I'd have waited for the new 3 series but ce la vive.

MattHiggs
27-05-2005, 08:36:09
My uncle got the new 3 series - it's amazing!

mr.G
27-05-2005, 08:39:17
no that's a mazda

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-05-2005, 09:09:47
Originally posted by Oerdin
VW is always getting written up for poor quality in the states. The quality ratings all say that Toyota, Honda, and GM are the best (and in that order).

Has been the same even in Germany. But recently, the carmakers dumped a lot of untested electronic gadgets and rediscovered something like quality control, now they're improving rapidly.

Although, the first series of the Golf V was atrocious. Guess Matt has a Golf IV.

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-05-2005, 09:17:05
Originally posted by Oerdin
VW is always getting written up for poor quality in the states. The quality ratings all say that Toyota, Honda, and GM are the best (and in that order).

GM? Purveyors, in Europe, of those bastions of reliability that are Peugeot and Vauxhall? Pah.

Add Nissan and Subaru to the list.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-05-2005, 09:22:25
"Peugeot and Vauxhall?"

?

You mean Opel and Vauxhall?

Oerdin
27-05-2005, 09:25:11
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
GM? Purveyors, in Europe, of those bastions of reliability that are Peugeot and Vauxhall? Pah.

Add Nissan and Subaru to the list.

Peugot is owned by PSA not GM. You are likely thinking of Opel and Saab both of which are owned by GM. Vauxhall exists only as a name and is the same company as Opel. In the 1970's GM neutered Vauxhall because the company kept coming up with crap cars so now Vauxhall just makes rebadged Opels in Luton.

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-05-2005, 10:27:57
I'm old. GM used to own Peugeot/Talbot and I didn't realise they'd offloaded them.

Vauxhalls are still shit though.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-05-2005, 10:37:22
"GM used to own Peugeot"

When?

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-05-2005, 14:46:01
Ah- my error. Here's what actually happened.

In 1966 Chrysler bought up the Rootes Group (UK- went on to become Talbot) and Simca (France). In the late 70's Peugeot bought Chrysler (France) which brought them into co-production with Talbot. There was a great fanfare in Britain at the time about how the motoring traditions of three great nations were uniting to make the greatest cars on Earth (ie- the Talbot Horizon.....). However after that time the Yanks backed out and let Peugeot take over Peaugeot/Talbot.

Drekkus
27-05-2005, 15:35:48
Are cars so much cheaper in britain? The most basic Audi A4 would set you back about 31.000 here in Holland. A 1.8 litre engine would bring you up to 36.500, without extras.

Funko
27-05-2005, 15:38:54
He said a second hand A4, makes it much more affordable - quick google sez:

http://www.sim64.co.uk/audi-3.html

Venom
27-05-2005, 15:39:05
Things I learned from my parents trip to Oranjeland...shit is expensive.

Japher
27-05-2005, 15:39:31
and to think, I've been flushing it down the toilet all these years!

mr.G
27-05-2005, 15:39:46
I know someone who crashed an A4.

Funko
27-05-2005, 15:41:01
I know someone who crashed on the A4.

mr.G
27-05-2005, 15:42:26
Drekkus also?

Oerdin
27-05-2005, 15:43:08
The Talbot Horizon was called the Dodge Omni in America and it had a horrible reputation for breaking down.

Drekkus
27-05-2005, 15:50:37
Originally posted by mr.G
I know someone who crashed an A4. If only. That was an audi 80 :lol:
too bad someone made pictures of such poor quality.

mr.G
27-05-2005, 15:51:23
owja

Oerdin
27-05-2005, 19:54:29
Isn't the A4 just a shortened Passat? It seems kind of wrong to chop a Passat's bonnet & boot, tart it up with leather & a nicer interior, put an audi badge on it, then double the price.

The Norks
27-05-2005, 20:00:20
dh WOULDNT TRUST ANYONE TO BUILD HIS CAR BUT HIS OWN PRIVATE TEAM OF SATANS PIXIES!!!!

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-05-2005, 20:02:15
I think they don't share a single platform. But the new Passat is about 20 cm bigger than the A4, and better value IMO.

http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/64522.jpg