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Spartak
25-05-2005, 21:08:47
Just been offered two jobs to chose from. One in Beijing and the other in Shanghai. Its an agonising choice between them but either way I look like I'm off to China for 3 years....

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Provost Harrison
25-05-2005, 21:10:18
That's nice.

Spartak
25-05-2005, 21:15:56
Yep. I'm delighted.

Japher
25-05-2005, 21:19:11
Shanghai sounds much less communist, I'd go there... sounds like fun, what are you going to be doing?

The Norks
25-05-2005, 21:26:37
night posters are the coolest

jsorense
25-05-2005, 21:27:41
Originally posted by The Norks
night posters are the coolest FACT!
Congrats Spartak! :beer:

Spartak
25-05-2005, 21:37:30
Originally posted by Japher
Shanghai sounds much less communist, I'd go there... sounds like fun, what are you going to be doing? Beijing is running the visa section in the British Embassy, Shanghai is an airline liaison job.

Job in Shanghai is better but very long hours. The one in Beijing is still a great job and has more regular (and shorter) hours... Also I'd have to learn Manderin if I went to Shanghai

JM^3
25-05-2005, 21:48:56
go to Beijing

HJM

Japher
25-05-2005, 21:54:17
Yeah, Beijing. If you work too much you won't even notice you are in China at all!

Spartak
25-05-2005, 21:54:19
HJM?

I think I will be. Mrs Sprtak tends to agree.

Has anytone been to either and has any advice?

The Mad Monk
25-05-2005, 22:05:07
DaShi may have been to either or both places.

It may also be time to overcome your Polyphobia, as there are a lot of folks posting from China there.

Venom
25-05-2005, 22:11:41
Fuck china.

Lurker the Second
25-05-2005, 22:27:42
That's a lot of sex.

Sir Penguin
25-05-2005, 22:36:01
Gay sex.

Congratulations on the jobs, Spartak. :beer:

SP

Spartak
25-05-2005, 22:45:18
Originally posted by The Mad Monk
DaShi may have been to either or both places.

It may also be time to overcome your Polyphobia, as there are a lot of folks posting from China there. I have over 1000 posts at poly.

Spartak
25-05-2005, 22:45:45
Thanks all - waiting for Dashi...

alsieboo
25-05-2005, 23:31:19
Fecking hell! Congrats :beer: :bounce:

protein
25-05-2005, 23:36:58
Supoib! well done man!

My uncle works in various embassies as a visa dude including seoul. Even though he was born a scot, he's a canadian now and has been secretary to the ambassador, ambassador and worked high up in the canadian secret service. If you need any tips...

JM^3
26-05-2005, 00:27:04
It will be nice to have a new nighttime poster..

Jon Miller

Sir Penguin
26-05-2005, 00:38:58
Except he means UK night time.

SP

jsorense
26-05-2005, 00:42:42
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
Except he means UK night time.

SP What? Where? When is UK?
Is it important?:confused:

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
26-05-2005, 05:14:21
Originally posted by Spartak
Job in Shanghai is better but very long hours.

Just think of it as more opportunity to post at CG during work hours :)

[quopte]Also I'd have to learn Manderin if I went to Shanghai [/QUOTE]

Well, that's better than learning Mandarin. I hear that's a bastard to get your head around.

Koshko
26-05-2005, 06:00:41
Try not to lose a kidney.

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 06:17:26
Originally posted by Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
Just think of it as more opportunity to post at CG during work hours :)

Also I'd have to learn Manderin if I went to Shanghai

Well, that's better than learning Mandarin. I hear that's a bastard to get your head around. Critic!

Having slept on it (fitfully) its going to be Beijing for the more settled hours and larger UK community while my kids are really young...

The letter turning down the other job (and incidently my dream job) is going to be the hardest letter I have ever written...

Both jobs are going to be far too busy to get much worktime posting done...

Diss
26-05-2005, 06:19:34
welcome to the darkside.

MRT144
26-05-2005, 06:33:09
learning a new language is a good thing

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 06:50:09
Yes but so is being around for the kids and not working through the night.

Oerdin
26-05-2005, 07:24:15
Take the easier one which lets you spend more time with your family.

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 07:36:38
That's what I'm doing. :D

I still feel a bit down about it...

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 09:21:06
Deed done. Post accepted. Its not until Spring 2006 so you get a daytime me for a bit longer. Lucky you...

mr.G
26-05-2005, 09:26:49
totaly missed this thread.

:beer:

Funko
26-05-2005, 09:28:42
Congratulations Spartak.

mr.G
26-05-2005, 09:28:51
Originally posted by Venom
Fuck china.

fuck china is dumb (http://www.ubersite.com/m/35571)

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 09:55:57
China will be fab. I'm over being down now I'm just

:bounce:

Mr. Bas
26-05-2005, 10:00:26
Congrats Spartak! I've heard good stories about Beijing, I'm sure you'll have a great time there... :beer:

mr.G
26-05-2005, 10:00:54
Let's face it, those men are gonna rule the next 10-20 years.

My bridge went 40% up in one year caused to the high steel price due to the chinese export.

Tizzy
26-05-2005, 10:15:53
Congratulations!

Drekkus
26-05-2005, 10:17:18
chinese import I reckon. They're buying up all the steel for their booming economy.

But :beer: spartak. Will be a great experiance!

mr.G
26-05-2005, 10:18:16
experience I reckon

Drekkus
26-05-2005, 10:21:10
twatface, I say.

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 10:21:55
:lol:

:ricewine:

MOBIUS
26-05-2005, 10:37:18
Originally posted by Spartak
Also I'd have to learn Manderin if I went to Shanghai

Given your spelling of Mandarin, I'd take the post in Beijing...;)

Someone else has probably made this point, so I'm just here to rub it in!:p

BTW:beer:

Spartak@work
26-05-2005, 10:42:47
Qaj beat you to it. :p

MDA
26-05-2005, 15:07:18
:beer: Awesome. I like your choice, too.

Greg W
26-05-2005, 15:15:02
Went to Beijing for a week back in (checks passport) 1997. Lots to do and see, freaken awesome place to visit. Living there would be a different story I'd imagine.

Make sure that you do the audio guided tour of The Forbidden City. It's by Sean Connery. Totally awesoem place. :beer:

Also, make sure you get out to the great wall. That was brilliant.

Oh, and DO NOT DRIVE THERE! The drivers are maniacs. Even worse than the States! :nervous:

Venom
26-05-2005, 15:17:09
Celebrities sell out for anything in Asia.

zmama
26-05-2005, 15:50:16
Should be a good learning experience.
Congrats :beer:

Spartak
26-05-2005, 17:47:05
Originally posted by Greg W
Went to Beijing for a week back in (checks passport) 1997. Lots to do and see, freaken awesome place to visit. Living there would be a different story I'd imagine.

Make sure that you do the audio guided tour of The Forbidden City. It's by Sean Connery. Totally awesoem place. :beer:

Also, make sure you get out to the great wall. That was brilliant.

Oh, and DO NOT DRIVE THERE! The drivers are maniacs. Even worse than the States! :nervous: I went to Beijing in about 1998 on the train from Moscow. Did the tour. I thought it was Roger Moore but never mind. :cute:

Looking forward to it...

The Norks
26-05-2005, 21:48:17
either place will be a great experience, and you may always get another shot at the dream job hun :)

Spartak
26-05-2005, 21:51:11
Depends how long they hold a grudge...

Greg W
27-05-2005, 00:59:26
Originally posted by Spartak
I went to Beijing in about 1998 on the train from Moscow. Did the tour. I thought it was Roger Moore but never mind. :cute:

Looking forward to it... Meh, I just remember it being a Bond, and I thought Connery, but it could very wel have been Moore. At 8 years ago, and with my memory, I think I am doing well to remember that much. :D

Oh, the reason I thought Connery was I thought it very odd having a weird accent in Beijing. I wouldn't have thought that Moore's would have struck me as being that odd. Oh well...

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
27-05-2005, 04:06:30
Given that the Chinese are currency manipulators, expect western imports to be hideously expensive. But, since 90% of stuff on the market is Chinese, you probably won't see much of a difference in available goods for sale.

Spartak
27-05-2005, 06:59:35
Idon't mind that. It'll bump up my allowances...

Dyl Ulenspiegel
27-05-2005, 09:03:13
Yaaay for night-posting China-Spartak! :beer:

DaShi
28-05-2005, 05:10:13
Just saw that you made your decision. Beijing is ok. I prefer Shanghai myself. But you should find Beijing to be very comfortable to live in. Be prepared for hot summers and cold winters. Fortunately, most buildings will have adequate air conditioning; and working for the embassy, you should be well taken care of.

Beijing also so has plenty to see. There are tons of tourist sites there if you're interested in that stuff.

Oh, and DO NOT DRIVE THERE! The drivers are maniacs. Even worse than the States!

The driving is better there than in Shanghai or Hangzhou. But the traffic is worse. Learn your routes and the time they take early, you want to avoid being constantly late.

Good luck! If you're ever in Hangzhou (or even Shanghai) for a visit, let me know. Wish I had one of those cushy government jobs. :(

Spartak
29-05-2005, 17:58:44
Well, I would ahve preferred the job in Shanghai but the one in Beijing is more family friendly. I'm used to hot summers and cold winters from 5years in Moscow. Hopefully there will be less snow in Beijing. I'm hoping to live close enough to work to walk. ;)

Spartak
30-05-2005, 08:07:34
Originally posted by DaShi
If you're ever in Hangzhou (or even Shanghai) for a visit, let me know. Wish I had one of those cushy government jobs. :( I will do. I'm bound to be there at some point doing Tourist stuff.

I don't know about cushy Govt jobs. Its a good job I'll grant you but its not that cushy. ;)

BTW, do you have any advice for me concerning keepinga gluten free diet in China? MSG is OK for me but soysauce isn't.

DaShi
30-05-2005, 09:44:57
Northern China is well-known for it's noodles. Unlike MSG, soysause is fairly noticeable, so getting menus with pictures helps. Otherwise, you can ask a friend your dining with to avoid it. Actually, there's not that much food in China that is cooked with soysauce. Usually, it's treated like a condiment at a table. Also, in Beijing, you should be able to find a variety of different restaurants serving food from different nationalities (as well as Chinese food). I probably eat more Thai curry here than I ever did in the states.

Spartak
30-05-2005, 09:48:20
Are they rice or wheat noodles?

I was intending to get one of the interpreters to write me a letter to produce at restaurants to explain what I can and can't have. Obviously there is a risk here but I'll get them to overstate the consequences and imply that projectile vomiting is an option if they don't behave...

DaShi
30-05-2005, 09:57:00
I dunno. They're thick and tasty. Probably rice, though.

Spartak
30-05-2005, 11:51:49
That's OK then.

Spartak
01-06-2005, 11:31:06
Bloody hell.

I have just been offered an airline liaison job in Copenhagen instead. I'm gobsmacked. This is unprecedented as the unit running these posts normally sticks pins in efigies of people who have the cheek to turn downa posting and I thought I had completely burned by bridges with them.

Shit, what do I do now??

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 11:34:00
Take both and commute between the two? :p

Spartak
01-06-2005, 11:38:24
I might get done for trying to draw two salaries if I do that!

Seriously, what do I do?

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 11:48:22
Your call...which do you fancy the most?

Spartak
01-06-2005, 11:58:04
I prefer the liasion job but the beijing post is more family friendly and will be more of an adventure.

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 11:58:51
See, a tough call...how long do you have to make up your mind?

Spartak
01-06-2005, 12:00:28
a few days.

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 12:01:12
Ouch...well my thoughts are that people from Denmark tend to be a bit odd...they are quite right wing too...

Spartak
01-06-2005, 12:04:18
Yeah, they tend to be a bit xenophobic as well.

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 12:06:02
And China, well their regime is a bit iffy but that is my only real worry...and yeah, it has more of a draw than Denmark...

Spartak
01-06-2005, 12:07:17
Yep.

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 12:08:14
Well there you go...but the Danes have given you 'an offer you can't refuse' though, by the sound of it ;) But you have to be selfish here too...

Provost Harrison
01-06-2005, 12:08:37
The advantage to Denmark is, that if you have any ties in this country, it is easier to visit back here...

Spartak
01-06-2005, 12:13:55
I expect I'll stick with China in any event.

DaShi
01-06-2005, 15:24:50
Originally posted by Spartak
Yeah, they tend to be a bit xenophobic as well.

A warning. The Chinese are extremely xenophobic. No matter how well you can speak Chinese and understand the culture, your face will always set you as an outsider, and you will often be judged soley on that. To make it worse: "There is no racism in China."

At the same time, it's a excellent learning experience. While you won't get the extent of hostile treatment some minorities get in other countries, you will experience enough to develop some sympathy for it. It just becomes a way of life. Sometimes, it'll be a benefit (although these advantages are getting rarer, they're learning that not all foreigner's are rich. You can blame me. :) ), other times it will piss you right off. Since getting angry does little to help you in China, be prepared for it.

Spartak
01-06-2005, 16:54:01
Thanks Dashi, I knew that as well, but its more palatable 3000 miles from home opposed to 300.