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King_Ghidra
20-05-2005, 10:10:30
The first thing that drew my eye was the claim that they had:

6.10 years of experience in Software Quality Assurance and Testing

6.10, superb!

The reason why they expressed themselves in such a way was immediately explained by:

Bachelor of science (Statistics)

which was wonderfully qualified by:

(1992 1995, First class with Distinction 80.57%)

80.57% :lol:

Funko
20-05-2005, 10:11:45
Does he mean 6.10 years

ie. 6 years 36.5 days

Or

6 years and 10 months.

Anyway, statisticians are scary.

MoSe
20-05-2005, 10:13:04
Software Quality Assurance and Testing...

is that SQuAT?

MoSe
20-05-2005, 10:15:15
Originally posted by Funko
Does he mean 6.10 years

ie. 6 years 36.5 days

Or

6 years and 10 months.

Anyway, statisticians are scary.

pwn goal

it was of course
5. something
6. 10 years of experience in SQAT
7. something more

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 10:23:41
Originally posted by Funko
Does he mean 6.10 years

ie. 6 years 36.5 days

Or

6 years and 10 months.

Anyway, statisticians are scary.

Of course he means 6 years 36.5 days! Otherwise he would have written it
6'10" or something like that....

King_Ghidra
20-05-2005, 10:24:34
6 foot 10? :lol:

Funko
20-05-2005, 10:25:06
He probably means 6 years 36.50 days. :)

MoSe
20-05-2005, 10:26:36
36.60 on leap years

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 10:51:17
Yes, intersting. 6.10 years doesn't mean shit, as a "year" is not a set quantity.

Stupid statastitians..spen too much time with their 6'10" heads in the clouds.

Funko
20-05-2005, 10:52:18
K_G could you please ask for an update from this guy on what he meant by 6.10 as it's highly ambiguous.

Greg W
20-05-2005, 10:53:59
Maybe he should have stated the amount of time in days instead? Or seconds, that would be an impressive number. Approx 192,542,400 seconds experience.

Funko
20-05-2005, 10:56:17
Excellent idea. Seconds are a good unit, that would be perfect.

He'd have to say how many seconds experience he had at a precise time though.

Greg W
20-05-2005, 10:57:48
Well, with any luck he wouldn't be gaining experience whilst in an interview. Otherwise one would have to question his accounting.

Funko
20-05-2005, 10:58:55
Yes, but he might still be working and looking for another job. So he's adding experience whilst K_G is reading the CV.

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:00:05
True.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:00:53
Yeah. Hence the phrase " X seconds experience in Y at time t" Leaves KG with a little work to do, but if the CV's worth it...

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:02:41
Now if he were a software engineer, he could include a program that would provide an up to date number of seconds. Accurate to within the, er, second.

Gary
20-05-2005, 11:03:37
192.5424 Ms

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:04:48
And he should give his errors or it's not worth anything

eg. I have 202,874,746 seconds of SQuAT up to the 20:19:18 GMT on the 17th of May 2005 +/- 520,000 seconds


ps there are pi*10 million seconds in a year (practically) so 6 and a bit years is going to be somewhere between 186 and 210 million seconds

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:06:52
Originally posted by Greg W
Now if he were a software engineer, he could include a program that would provide an up to date number of seconds. Accurate to within the, er, second.

In a paper CV?

It's impossible to write anyway, you wouldn't know if he'd had to leave early for the day or if his train was late... although he could factor in the statistical probability of that couldn't he...

:lol:

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:06:52
I would own goal that, but seeing as it's not a question...

I think you'll find that's Pi * 10 million.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:07:29
Now that is a thorough response. I may have to update my CV.

If that answer alone didn't get the job, it wouldn't be worth working there

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:07:42
You are correct! Sorry.

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:09:01
But he only works 40 out of 168 hours in a week. On average, how many days in a year are work days?

SP

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:09:42
It's allright, it happens occasionally. Must be a full moon or something.

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:10:17
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
But he only works 40 out of 168 hours in a week. On average, how many days in a year are work days?

SP Pick the real statistician!

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:14:06
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
But he only works 40 out of 168 hours in a week. On average, how many days in a year are work days?

SP

Fuck.

No wonder I hate statisticians!

250 days a year is a reasonable estimate for work days - it's easier to multiply.

But being a bit more accurate start with 365, Take off 52*2 for weekends, 25 days leave and 7 bank holidays

365 - 104 + 25 + 7 = 230

Your 40 hours a week is kind of irrelevant, we need to really say he works 8 hours a day on work days

Hours a year = 230*8 = 1840

So 6.624 million seconds a year.

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:14:34
Assuming that one works 5/7 of the days in a year, that gives 260.8857 work days on the average year (considering leap years). Say, a generous 24 days less in stat holidays and work holidays, for a total of 236.8857 days actually worked per year. That's a total of 1591.403 days worked in 6.1 years, or, 137,497,219 seconds.

SP

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:15:22
Dammit!

SP

mr.G
20-05-2005, 11:15:38
thank SP

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:15:46
That's what I call massively parallel calculations.

SP

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:15:53
You forgot he only works 8 hours a day on the days he works. :cute:

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:17:43
Shit! That's 45,832,406.4 seconds.

SP

mr.G
20-05-2005, 11:17:44
in my country, 8 hours work a day = workday

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:17:59
What about sick days?

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:18:51
He's probably not excluding lunch hours, so that he looks better.

SP

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:19:15
Sick days are included in holiday time.

SP

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:19:25
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
Shit! That's 45,832,406.4 seconds.

SP

That's closer to my estimate. Mine was 44 million and a bit but I gave him standard 25 days leave and the 7 bank holidays.

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:19:48
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
Sick days are included in holiday time.

SP

Not here.

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:21:18
I forgot he was a lazy communist.

SP

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:22:10
If I was a statistician, I would look up medical stats to see how many days he was sick.

SP

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:22:29
And long lunches on Fridays. And time on the crapper. And time answering personal phone calls at work.

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:22:50
No wonder he was fired after 6.1 years.

SP

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:23:19
He'd certainly lie and say he didn't do that at work.

Perhaps now we've finished K_G could include some of our comments on how unspecific his work experience time estimate was in any correspondance with him.

Provost Harrison
20-05-2005, 11:23:30
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
I forgot he was a lazy communist.

SP

:D

I get 26 days leave though, so I'm an even more lazy communist :p

Sir Penguin
20-05-2005, 11:23:51
That's for sure. I want answers!

SP

Greg W
20-05-2005, 11:24:34
Definately. I'd love to see that reply drafted. :beer:

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:30:09
there, you see. You've runied your own (beautifully unambiguous)( answer by questioning how many hours in a week he works.
The interviewer's first response will be "define experience smart ass.....is it something you only aquire during the hours 9-5? Do you actually work every second of the 9-5? does every second of work actually correspond to a second of experience?......."

MoSe
20-05-2005, 11:37:32
you mean he should rather state his seconds' worth of experience????

Provost Harrison
20-05-2005, 11:38:30
Well if he insists on putting it in such a ridiculous manner...

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:38:52
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:40:15
Although I wouldn't expect a statastician to get the grammer right :)

Provost Harrison
20-05-2005, 11:45:10
Or the spelling. Are you a statistician Nills? :p

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:48:38
He did apply for a "Theoretical Physics and Applied Mathematics" course at the Uni I was at.

When he came for the interview I pointed out that the current 6 or 7 people dong the course in my year were the biggest nerds on the planet and I think that put him off.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 11:51:13
Oh God, you should have seen the geeks that I ended up with on the Maths & Physics course. One of the "girls" had a full bear I swear.

One of the guys was called "Samual Thewlis."

I admit, Statistician has always causedme problems

King_Ghidra
20-05-2005, 11:53:15
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
One of the "girls" had a full bear

:eek: the mind boggles

Funko
20-05-2005, 11:58:04
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Oh God, you should have seen the geeks that I ended up with on the Maths & Physics course. One of the "girls" had a full bear I swear.

One of the guys was called "Samual Thewlis."

I admit, Statistician has always causedme problems

There was a girl?!

It was no where near as nerdy as TPAMs then.

Nills Lagerbaak
20-05-2005, 12:10:18
Well it did have a full beard. I think it was a girl in disguise. There's no way she'd get in otherwise, you're quite right.

DaShi
20-05-2005, 12:57:05
Oh, beard! That's much clearer.