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Beta1
18-05-2005, 21:35:01
Whats with these twats? I buy a freeview box and I get letters telling me I'm breaking the law and how they are going to prosecute me because I dont have a license. I write back with a copy of the license (its in my girlfriends name but for this address). We even changed the dam thing to be in both our names.

Then I buy a DVD recorder - another load of letters threatening me with prosecution!

FFS they claim to have a database with every home in country on it that doesnt have a license. How long would it take to check to see if our address has one and save them the cost of a letter and me the grief of writting back. And who the fuck is spying on my purchases and telling them in the first place? Sent a note back with the last letter suggesting they learn how to use a database properly as they obviously dont have a fucking clue and threatenning to contact my MP if they dont stop harrassing me. Which I might do just for a laugh.

And on thop of that I cant actually watch the dam thing cos my girlf is revising in the living room!

Chris
18-05-2005, 21:58:03
Never answer letters that threaten leagal action.

MDA
18-05-2005, 21:59:45
...unless its with a hail of bullets.

KrazyHorse@home
18-05-2005, 22:00:47
Or unless it threatens a hail of bullets.

Gary
18-05-2005, 22:34:21
Just ignore the SS. They write to my empty place regularly always asuming that "if you've not contacted them confirming you are not breaking the law, then you must be a criminal".

No point in contacting them at all unless you are going to regularly. They get sneaky too. Sent a registered letter twice. I collected the first one from the local depot. Didn't catch me twice.

Thing to do is recognise the envelope, tear it in two on sight, and put it in the bin outside immediately.

Provost Harrison
18-05-2005, 23:48:28
I think the whole current concept of TV licensing is so flawed. Checking whether you have bought a TV and especially licensing your right to receive and translate electromagnetic signal with electronics seems a bit of an infringement of civil liberties in my opinion. There has to be better ways to do this...hopefully with future encoding of signals they will be able to work on the basis of a paying service.

jsorense
19-05-2005, 04:04:26
Sic them Roland!
Unleash the dogs of war!:shoot:

Gary
19-05-2005, 08:04:56
The better way to do it is to allocate a part of the general taxation take to cover it. Just so long as the legislation doesn't allow government to have so much say that they can use it to control the BBC. Needs to be set up properly.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
19-05-2005, 08:27:16
I've always considered tv licensing systems as a violation of the right to privacy and the freedom of communication. Unfortunately, the courts beg to differ. Bastards.

Greg W
19-05-2005, 08:30:26
Yay for not needing a licence. \o/

Got rid of ours years ago. :beer:

notyoueither
19-05-2005, 08:36:26
Same here. I was baffled when told that my grandparents were stuck up for a fee to have a radio way back when.

sexylady
19-05-2005, 08:45:52
:clueless: how will i enjoy watching if they are getting rid of my privacy...

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:38:15
Originally posted by Gary
The better way to do it is to allocate a part of the general taxation take to cover it. Just so long as the legislation doesn't allow government to have so much say that they can use it to control the BBC. Needs to be set up properly.

Bit harsh on the millions of people who choose not to have a TV.. er...

;)

Gary
19-05-2005, 09:42:28
I've spoken to him, he's happy with it as it should stop those weekly letters. :)

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:44:28
The (only) good thing about it being licence fee money rather than general taxation is that it's not a temptation for the government to raid it's funding or whatever. And it does have some degree of independence from the gov't.

Greg W
19-05-2005, 09:46:12
Er. Our taxes don't pay for television. Well, except the ABC.

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:49:17
But as like 10p out of every pound goes on collection it might make more sense anyway.

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:49:59
Originally posted by Greg W
Er. Our taxes don't pay for television. Well, except the ABC.

We're only talking about the BBC.

Greg W
19-05-2005, 09:50:22
I have absolutely no idea what you just said then. :clueless:

X-post.

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:52:54
Gary was suggesting that we pay for the BBC out of general taxation rather than the licence fee. I was saying that the only good thing about the licence fee is keeping it independent. I think the BBC is still a very important thing to have.

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:53:29
And the other thing I said was that the BBC spends 10 percent of it's money on collecting the licence fee.

Greg W
19-05-2005, 09:54:39
Oh. It was the second one I had no idea about.

What you should do is make the BBC totally crap, like the ABC, and then it won't matter. ;)

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:55:47
They seem to be working on that. :)

Funko
19-05-2005, 09:56:39
Actually with E4 coming to freeview next weekend I think I'll get a digibox, some of the stuff on BBC3 and BBC4 looks pretty decent too.

Beta1
19-05-2005, 09:56:49
Originally posted by Funko
And the other thing I said was that the BBC spends 10 percent of it's money on collecting the licence fee.

I wonder how much of that goes on sending letters to addresses that already have licenses...

*End Is Forever*
19-05-2005, 09:58:53
When I lived in York in my second year at University, I paid for the license, only for every other member of the household to then receive a threatening letter. I rang them up and the cheeky buggers told me I'd have to go to the effort of sending them a letter. I told them to sod off... well not literally.

MattHiggs
19-05-2005, 10:46:16
They are absolutely clueless. I've received many threatening letters from them and I've had a liscense at my current address for nearly 2 years.

Rodgers
19-05-2005, 11:41:15
Originally posted by Chris
Never answer letters that threaten leagal action.


Au contraire - this letter should have been answered with taunts of "come and have ago if you think you're hard enough". If the person responsible at TV Licencing took it all the way they might actually get fired or demoted when it came to light that Beta1 already had a licence and the whole thing was a waste of time.

fp
19-05-2005, 14:08:05
I actually had somebody come round and read me my rights once. He went through the whole "You do not have to say anything unless you wish to do so, but anything you say..blah..blah...blah" shit like something from The Bill. Turns out that my bank had buggered up the Direct Debit and I hadn't actually paid for the license. One phone call is all it took to straighten out.

Rodgers
19-05-2005, 14:28:37
..to the Masons?

King_Ghidra
19-05-2005, 15:36:16
to Kong Bao, head of the local Triads.