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protein
15-05-2005, 00:59:39
Bloody marvellous it is... :)

MOBIUS
15-05-2005, 01:13:09
I was in it tonight!:bounce:

Except I was basically just a passenger silhouette in the 'other' car (a rover) you see behind Rose and her dad's car...

But I did get to drive the chevette and look after the ford panel van overnight.:D

protein
15-05-2005, 02:14:38
Wicked!

'twas a great episode!

Nills Lagerbaak
15-05-2005, 15:12:42
What a load of absolute sh!te. I mean the old Doctor Who never had this soap opera crap in it. It was about cybermen and daleks and the master, not some personal rubbish, and that episode where the dalek almost cried I nearly pissed myself laughing. There are more than enough soaps on telly, why can' t people do anything right these days?

[/Rant Ends]

The Norks
15-05-2005, 17:17:43
cybermen...........*shudder*

Kitsuki
16-05-2005, 09:08:12
The last episode was so painfully predictable - the second he'd escaped death and the car that should have hit him kept re-appearing it was obvious what would then happen.

Dissappointing.

MOBIUS
16-05-2005, 12:08:39
I have to admit the storylines have left a little bit to be desired. Perhaps they are trying to appeal to a broad range of people to get audience numbers up before tightening up their scripts...

Nills Lagerbaak
16-05-2005, 12:24:33
Either that or they have dumbed down and dilluted another good series into a drama/soap.

alsieboo
16-05-2005, 12:45:54
I had half an hour or so of staring at christopher eccleston. I was happy.

Kitsuki
16-05-2005, 13:02:21
Im thinking Nills is closer to the truth on this one....

Eccleston's successor, David Tennant will be far better. He was brilliant in Casanova.....

Beta1
16-05-2005, 13:13:38
They need another multi-part one. The aliens in no.10 was the best episode of the series, especially the press release with the weapons of destruction launched in 45 seconds bit.

I can't see tennant as the doctor. I think eccleston is quite good, although a little manic.

Kitsuki
16-05-2005, 13:28:07
Tennant is far better at playing a quirky character; Eccleston plays it too straight. Couldn't agree more about having more 2 parters - or even longer story arcs - the old Dr Who's used to have on-going stories that were far more compelling.

MDA
17-05-2005, 12:37:53
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
Either that or they have dumbed down and dilluted another good series into a drama/soap.

Originally posted by alsieboo
I had half an hour or so of staring at christopher eccleston. I was happy.

:lol: So funny it hurts!

alsieboo
21-05-2005, 19:21:57
I'm a constant source of entertainment!

Today's was good, freaky little kids with gas masks, fabby.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
22-05-2005, 13:29:11
Originally posted by alsieboo
I had half an hour or so of staring at christopher eccleston. I was happy.


Do you replay the scene in 'Elizabeth' where you get to see lovely Mr. Eccleston's slenderly muscular buttocks pumping away ?

alsieboo
22-05-2005, 22:07:30
noo, which one was that?!

Lazarus and the Gimp
22-05-2005, 22:16:33
Which film or which buttock?

alsieboo
22-05-2005, 22:17:44
makes a lot more sense now,thanking you

Fergus & The Brazen Car
23-05-2005, 10:00:21
Originally posted by alsieboo
noo, which one was that?!

'Elizabeth' with Cate Blanchett.

Eccleston plays a villainous Catholic Norfolk, plotting against his 'undoubted queen' as he called her at her coronation (in the film).

He is captured in his bedchamber thanks to his paramour who turns stoolie on him.


http://www.iofilm.co.uk/fm/e/elizabeth_1998.shtml

Beta1
23-05-2005, 10:37:17
this weeks episode was bloody good. First seriously spooky one

alsieboo
23-05-2005, 15:39:35
Is Billy Piper leaving? Or is that just rumour?

Kitsuki
23-05-2005, 15:58:30
Apparently she is staying for the second series...

alsieboo
23-05-2005, 16:18:01
but leaving half way through? Apparently it was on the front of one of the papers, which one I don't know, because I wasn't looking

Kitsuki
23-05-2005, 17:00:28
Erm, stumped me there...

Kitsuki
23-05-2005, 17:02:23
Can't find anything on the interwebnet to suggest she's leaving half way...

Tizzy
23-05-2005, 17:10:03
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4572551.stm

alsieboo
23-05-2005, 17:10:11
fabby

Beta1
23-05-2005, 18:44:20
Isnt that normal - when the doctor changes they usually get a new sidekick or two in

alsieboo
29-05-2005, 12:31:27
Is it me, or was the concluding part a bit pants.

MOBIUS
29-05-2005, 13:02:12
Really? I thought this two-parter was the best story I've seen so far!

(Not that I saw the 2nd part of the aliens taking over the govt)

Everyone has to watch next week's episode - it is actually set in Cardiff!:)

Beta1
29-05-2005, 14:02:03
Yeah something is threatening to suck cardiff off the map.

Sounds like a good idea to me!

Sir Penguin
29-05-2005, 23:15:30
Has anybody been following the Bad Wolf conspiracy?

SP

Kitsuki
29-05-2005, 23:56:23
Originally posted by Beta1
Yeah something is threatening to suck cardiff off the map.


A threat? Sounds like a generous offer to me!

MOBIUS
30-05-2005, 01:03:58
:p

alsieboo
30-05-2005, 10:29:26
I just didn't think the second part quite lived up to the first. Wasn't as scary, and too much happiness!

Can't wait to see the sloveeeen come back though, I enjoyed that two-parter

Fergus & The Brazen Car
03-06-2005, 10:37:21
The writer of the gasmask WWII diptych is clearly a big fan of Alan Moore & Neil Gaiman.

'Dr. Constantine' played by Richard Wilson is a nod to 'John Constantine' the 'Hellblazer' character from Moore's 'Swamp Thing' run who later had his own series; the image of the gasmask wearing adults and children is a nod to the (new) origin of the Golden Age detective/superhero Sandman, which was presented as being based on dream images of the Morpheus/Dream Sandman in the 1920s when the character from the Endless was a captive of an Aleister Crowley type.


I loved how the comic book creator tied in the captivity of the personification of Dream with the outbreak of a real world disease, encephalitis lethargica, so memorably and movingly depicted by Oliver Sacks in his book 'Awakenings'.

Shame about all the floodlighting and primary light sources that wouldn't have been allowed in the blacked out Blitz- Big Ben certainly shouldn't have been offering a giant illuminated direction finder to the Luftwaffe.


Still, I liked this two-parter- anything with creepy kids in is guaranteed to give some adults and children sleepless nights.


" Are you my Mummy ? "

The Norks
03-06-2005, 22:45:16
I have missed all the doctor whos except the first!
mmm...neil gaiman...I love the sandman


All kids are creepy- I've never seen the big attraction in midgets with disproportionately large heads whinging for attention 24/7.

Funko
05-06-2005, 23:34:31
The latest one was fantastic.

protein
06-06-2005, 01:21:23
Really? I thought it was rubbish. More soap opera than doctor who. All it was was boring talking and then a crap special effect and a fat woman being turned into an egg.

Tizzy
06-06-2005, 01:33:56
It was pretty obvious that the Doctor wasn't going to do what he "should" do.
An enjoyable enough episode, although a bit too "all lived happily ever after" for me.

Funko
06-06-2005, 09:21:56
Originally posted by protein
Really? I thought it was rubbish. More soap opera than doctor who. All it was was boring talking and then a crap special effect and a fat woman being turned into an egg.

That's what I like most about this series, there's so much more to it than just running away from daleks.

Beta1
06-06-2005, 09:54:16
then it looks like you wont like next week - daleks, thaaasands of 'em!

Funko
06-06-2005, 10:02:56
I never said I didn't like people running away from Daleks, but it's good to have more than that. :)

protein
06-06-2005, 11:08:47
I didn't like it because it may as well been a soap. It wasn't trippy or scary or funny or anything. It was just, well, lots of talking about love and then it seemed that just at the last minute they realised it was doctor who and stuck in a special effect then went back to talking about love and the soul.

Funko
06-06-2005, 11:09:47
Aliens are human too.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
06-06-2005, 12:07:26
Originally posted by protein
It wasn't trippy or funny or anything.




So an interdimensional void opens up in Cardiff's bay area powered by the fusion of the heart of the Tardis and an alien intergalactic skateboard and that isn't trippy ?


And a Rubenesque alien makes repeated attempts to con the Doctor at a diner a deux interspersed with attempts to assassinate him and that isn't funny ?

And the alien whilst trying to run away is constantly returned to the same area, only running in the reverse direction towards the Doctor and his companions ?


Is your real name Petra Glyph ? Because you must be made out of stone. ;)

Funko
06-06-2005, 12:09:18
^ what he said.

protein
06-06-2005, 12:23:10
The dinner scene seemed very familiar to me. I'm sure I've seen that routine in different guises before. Perhaps on the Chuckle Brothers.

Interdimensional voids, wormholes, rips in the fabric of time etc are so standard in sci fi they just don't interest me on their own.

The episode where they go to a space station and meet an alien media master and The Editor and the episodes where everyone becomes freaky mask wearing lost children seem like they are from a different series.

If I wanted to watch teenagers talking about love and people going for meals and talking about life and doing half-baked poorly written comedy routines I'd watch Hollyoaks.

Next weeks looks suitably trippy and exciting for me. The doctor realising he's in a reality tv show hosted by a robot Anne Robinson? Awesome.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-06-2005, 12:26:07
Yeah, it was bollox.
"That's right, go running to the Doctor it's always him, never me!"

Should read "Run for you lives!! The daleks are coming!"

protein
06-06-2005, 12:27:56
Or "look out, all the scary shop manaquins are coming to life and slowly walking towards you like faceless zombies!"

Nills Lagerbaak
06-06-2005, 13:07:18
Yeah! That wouls be like real doctor who!

Funko
06-06-2005, 13:07:52
That happened in the first one, I though it was cheesy and cliched. Oh well. :lol:

Nills Lagerbaak
06-06-2005, 13:17:42
It's Doctor who for feks sake! That's how it should be.

MOBIUS
06-06-2005, 13:26:13
Moan, whinge, complain - just can't keep 'em happy can you...?:rolleyes:

I thought it was pretty good, but I have to admit spending most of my time going "been there", "eaten there", "I know where that is"...

Looking forward to next week though - then I can forgive them for making me think they'd killed off the daleks and turned the last one into a pussy! Bastards!:D

Funko
06-06-2005, 13:39:11
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
It's Doctor who for feks sake! That's how it should be.

What's wrong with trying something a bit different from time to time? Variety is good.

I don't think there's been a bad episode of this series yet, although I've missed a few. :beer:

I think it's great that it's moved with the times and isn't stuck trying to emulate the shows of the mid seventies which was a real danger.

Funko
06-06-2005, 13:39:59
And you can't kill off the daleks 'cause they could always travel back to a time before they were wiped out. ;)

Nills Lagerbaak
06-06-2005, 13:51:16
Variety is fine, but it's little more than a (really shitty) soap opera.
Moral - don't experiment too much with an existing format (especially if it goes by the same name) or you run the risk of shitifying it, and possibly ruining the chance of a future series. I would say I don't think there has been a good episode so far

Funko
06-06-2005, 13:53:13
Why are you still watching it then?

Nills Lagerbaak
06-06-2005, 13:56:55
Very, very bored. Saturday at 7 is not a good time (and I have no dinner table so I eat in front of the box)

Funko
06-06-2005, 13:58:57
Funny 'cause I normally have to go out of my way to make sure I see it. :)

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I don't think a bit of character development or a more lighthearted episode here and there make it a soap opera. *shrug*

Fergus & The Brazen Car
06-06-2005, 14:11:04
Originally posted by protein
The dinner scene seemed very familiar to me. I'm sure I've seen that routine in different guises before. Perhaps on the Chuckle Brothers.

Interdimensional voids, wormholes, rips in the fabric of time etc are so standard in sci fi they just don't interest me on their own.

If I wanted to watch teenagers talking about love and people going for meals and talking about life and doing half-baked poorly written comedy routines I'd watch Hollyoaks.



Yes, the famous 'two aliens have dinner whilst one assassinates the other' scene. It's such a comic cliche....

Your point was that the last episode of 'Dr Who' wasn't trippy or funny. You may not have found it so, but other people (especially the target audience) may have thought so. Not everyone is born replete with a list of standard s.f. tropes and references, and humour is a very personal thing.

When was the last assassination attempt in 'Hollyoaks' using internally generated poison gas or finger-generated poison dart ?

I'm not well up on British soap operas, but I'm suspecting that murder by bodily generated toxins is still reasonably outre even for them.

protein
06-06-2005, 14:21:13
I'm sorry. I've liked most of the other episodes. I just thought this one was the weakest.

It's always been about the great writing (remember Douglas Adams?) but I'm sure they left this episode to the work experience kid. I pretty much switched off when the whole "do you love me or the doctor" and the "to me, to you" children's comedy sketch stuff started losing my interest - I only barely noticed the rest of the episode which seemed like just more talking bollocks and a poor special effect as a finale.

The Norks
06-06-2005, 19:07:59
Originally posted by Funko
That's what I like most about this series, there's so much more to it than just running away from daleks.

running away from daleks and cybermen are what made th doctor cool, not loads of soppy shite.

Sir Penguin
07-06-2005, 04:21:41
Who's afraid of the big bad wolf? :cute:

SP

Funko
07-06-2005, 08:58:11
Yeah, that was interesting too. I can't say I've noticed that phrase coming up in previous episodes. :lol:

Sir Penguin
08-06-2005, 04:07:12
I think it's been spoken or written in every episode except two, and those two had oblique references (like the girl talking about the Doctor's big ears and nose in the first gasmaske episode).

SP

Funko
08-06-2005, 09:26:29
I guessed it had when they said it but I hadn't noticed.

Sir Penguin
16-06-2005, 14:45:14
BBC has signed up for a third series, and what's-her-name is staying on for the whole of the second series.

http://www.bureau42.com/view/2662

SP

Funko
16-06-2005, 14:54:15
Oooh, great spoiler in the bbc link from that page.

alsieboo
18-06-2005, 16:22:24
Last one tonight :(

alsieboo
18-06-2005, 19:49:01
Ooooh, that was quite sad actually, I almost cried. Had me gripped though, great tension. Pity tehy left Jack behind, and I don't think I like David Tennants hair. Looks a bit poncy.

The Norks
18-06-2005, 21:19:16
I have missed the entire series except episode one.
thats rubbish.

Tizzy
19-06-2005, 12:28:48
I've missed about half of it, I might need to buy the DVDs

mr.G
19-06-2005, 18:30:23
dr. woooooooohoooooooooo

Spartak
20-06-2005, 18:24:23
Fantastic last episode. Can't wait for the return at Christmas. Can someone video it and post it to me in Copenhagen?

MOBIUS
20-06-2005, 19:59:34
I thought it was pretty wank for a number of reasons...

alsieboo
20-06-2005, 23:28:54
Didn't Billie look quite pretty though, when she had the time vortex going through her?