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Chris
05-05-2005, 12:36:39
It seems to home made devices, including a grenade, were set off in mid town last night, at the British consolate.

Area is being searched now.

MDA
05-05-2005, 12:41:07
link posted by zmama in another thread... it fits here.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050505/325/fi4yg.html

Chris
05-05-2005, 12:43:16
Talking to a NYPD friend now on messenger, they are on alert.

MDA
05-05-2005, 12:46:45
I can imagine. They were supposedly toy grenades filled with black powder and dropped into cement planters.

King_Ghidra
05-05-2005, 12:49:19
ther's clearly a fine line between terrorism and criminal damage

this hardly compares with the bombings this week in iraq

Cruddy
05-05-2005, 12:53:57
Sounds like an amateur job - I don't see real AQ trained operatives being so half hearted.

Venom
05-05-2005, 12:58:18
TO ARMS!!!!!

MDA
05-05-2005, 13:02:18
They've speculated its expat Brits angry about the election... or just a nutter New Yorker.

Venom
05-05-2005, 13:14:46
A crazy person in New York?

Mightytree
05-05-2005, 13:17:17
Probably a Yankees fan.

Venom
05-05-2005, 13:18:43
They are seriously disgruntled.

Chris
05-05-2005, 13:21:12
Losing to Tampa does that.

protein
05-05-2005, 13:41:32
Toy grenades break flower pot.

New York on full terrorist alert!

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 13:44:01
Pffffft. We laugh at their puny transatlantic bombs. Send the IRA over to show them how to do a proper job.

Chris
05-05-2005, 13:47:31
New york has had better examples of Terrorism then any Mick could provide, thank you very much.

protein
05-05-2005, 13:57:21
By 1994, the IRA body count had reached 3,169, with an additional 38,680 people gravely injured.

Chris
05-05-2005, 13:59:20
In less then two hours, NY had almost 3,000 dead in a single attack.

Beta1
05-05-2005, 14:00:05
come on guys, no point in having a dick waving contest over whoes got the worse terrorists.

Gary
05-05-2005, 14:02:09
True. The single incident still didn't equate to the sustained campaign. Match over.

mr.G
05-05-2005, 14:02:48
In holland we lost a filmmaker and my sense.

protein
05-05-2005, 14:11:11
Well, if we're talking civilian deathtolls...

Civilians reported killed in Iraq - 24,324

Chris
05-05-2005, 14:15:39
Mostly by the side the left supports so gleefully.

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 14:22:30
Weren't we told it was over 100,000 a few months ago?

Chris
05-05-2005, 14:24:01
The Lancel fudged those figures laz, nobody knows the exact count, not even the Iraqis.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
05-05-2005, 16:46:44
Consensus seems to be the Lancet fudged the figures by revising them downwards. That is, consensus amongst a group of highly opinionated and somewhat non-mainstream Libertarian sympathizers...

I immediately though UK election protest for today's blasts also. Perhaps the real question should be are the small time crims or terrorists being overlooked in the cuntry's zealous pursuit of the larger fish, or was this just a one-off that slipped through the cracks (much like 9-11)?

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 22:24:28
It was the Dutch!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/05/uk.consulate/index.html

Damned sneaky Edam-eaters.

sleeping_satsuma
05-05-2005, 23:04:27
Originally posted by protein
Well, if we're talking civilian deathtolls...

You cynic! Don't you see that they are not dead, they are free!!

protein
05-05-2005, 23:06:30
liberated from life.

sleeping_satsuma
05-05-2005, 23:08:36
Originally posted by Chris
It seems to home made devices, including a grenade, were set off in mid town last night, at the British consolate.

Area is being searched now.

Welcome to Europe!!

I overheard one of my Irish colleagues talking about this today. He said ' Ah it was only a small bomb'

We all know 9/11 was appalling, but hey, we've lived with terrorism in our shopping centres, on our public transport, and at our public buildings for years. You'll get used to it.

Koshko
05-05-2005, 23:24:34
Well we are accustomed to dealing with people dying in an individual basis via murderers and not people dying in a group via terrorists.

OldWarrior_42
06-05-2005, 07:41:40
Or the random once in a while nutfuck that shoots 29 people because he got a suckass burger at McDonalds..... or he works at the Post Office.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2005, 08:47:04
What happened to your home grown nuts, the McVeigh variety, for example?

mr.G
06-05-2005, 08:58:26
That was just one boy, an act of an einzelganger.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2005, 09:07:28
Einzelbanger!

mr.G
06-05-2005, 09:12:02
:lol:

King_Ghidra
06-05-2005, 09:31:22
Originally posted by Koshko
Well we are accustomed to dealing with people dying in an individual basis via murderers and not people dying in a group via terrorists.

quite right.

I detest the blase comments made by UK people along the lines of 'oh terrorists, yah, we've had those for years dahling'

If the UK had had an incident along the lines of 9/11 i think a lot of people would have a very different attitude.

In particular reference to this incident it is clearly trifling, but so far we as a nation have been lucky, the IRA's worst attacks tended to kill at most in the dozens, and in the main did so in N Ireland well away from where it would worry english people.

Gramercy Riffs
06-05-2005, 10:12:45
The IRA actually did Manchester a favour.

The city centre has never looked so good.

Drekkus
06-05-2005, 10:24:36
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
It was the Dutch!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/05/05/uk.consulate/index.html

Damned sneaky Edam-eaters.
The New York police and the FBI said the man was not a suspect. Police said he was detained only because he was asked not to cross a police tape and did so anyway. A police official said the man may have been drinking.I should check on mr g's whereabouts.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-05-2005, 10:26:10
I think it's pretty sad discussing who has the worse terrorists anyway.

Luckily we don't live in a land where droubt and desease kill millions.....

"We've got Maleria!"....."That's nothing, we've got HIV!"

Oerdin
06-05-2005, 10:33:24
It's very sad.

King_Ghidra
06-05-2005, 10:52:22
Originally posted by Nills Lagerbaak
I think it's pretty sad discussing who has the worse terrorists anyway.

Luckily we don't live in a land where droubt and desease kill millions.....

"We've got Maleria!"....."That's nothing, we've got HIV!"

well everything exists in context

are you saying you've never said anything along the lines of 'i've had a really shit day'? After all, someone out there has a had a worse day/week/life than you whatever has happened.

If we approached every argument from your hypocritical position we could never debate anything. So we're all lucky westerners, i think that's a given, that's why we can sit around on our arses and get our employers to pay us while we chat on the internet.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-05-2005, 10:57:33
What you talking about? I'm not suggesting that we should actually talk about who has the worst desease. I just think it's a shitty thing to have terrorists no matter what their body count and leave it at that.

Its like arguing about who we should feel sorry for most, the mother who lost her baby through natural causes or whose died in a fire. It's distaseful and pathetic, and nothing like comparing who's had the shitter day.

It's the self-pittingness of the argument that bugs me, not the actual argument.

King_Ghidra
06-05-2005, 11:06:30
i don't see any self-pity, you sound like boris johnson accusing liverpool

isn't it fair to say that a terrorist attack that kills 3000 people is worse than an attack that injures a couple? They're not equally bad are they?

you think we should all just agree that terrorism is bad and leave it at that? that's moronic. everything is open to debate.
i'm sure we all agree that any terrorist attack is bad per se, but what's the harm in discussing the meaning and impact of particular attacks?.

Nills Lagerbaak
06-05-2005, 11:11:50
Assess away, I think it is distasteful because the deeper meaning for some people here is that either they should be pitied more , or that they are somehow more experienced. You may not be saying it but some people are using it as some kind of point scoring exercise and for oneupman-ship.

Cruddy
06-05-2005, 12:55:48
Well, as it was me who started the ball rolling, I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to start an argument about which terrorists are the most bad ass.

MDA
06-05-2005, 13:02:39
I always feel like a shit when I get pissed about being stuck in traffic and then pass the "almost-certainly-ruined-someone's-life" wreck that caused me to get stuck in the first place.

Gary
06-05-2005, 14:14:13
Don't. It's natural. It's human.

Lazarus and the Gimp
06-05-2005, 14:28:45
Originally posted by Cruddy
Well, as it was me who started the ball rolling, I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to start an argument about which terrorists are the most bad ass.

It was mine! It's a source of deep civic pride to me.

"We scorn your mimsy Baader-Meinhofs. We have the IRA! Want to touch me?"

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2005, 15:05:17
Touch your Irritated Rectal Area?

Fergus & The Brazen Car
06-05-2005, 15:19:22
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
Touch your Irritated Rectal Area?


No that's George Galloway and Respect.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
06-05-2005, 15:28:16
So Laz has George Gealloway and Respect up his arse? Explains the irritation....