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Greg W
03-05-2005, 04:17:08
A mate and I were talking the other day, about all the old super groups. For example:
- The Rolling Stones
- The Beatles
- Led Zeppelin
- AC/DC

Today, all we could think of was U2. We couldn't come up with a single other super group. Is the super group dead?

Debaser
03-05-2005, 09:46:01
Depends what you mean by supergroup, though I guess you mean a band big enough to sell out any size venue, anywhere in the world... hmm.... Bon Jovi? :(

Nills Lagerbaak
03-05-2005, 11:07:40
Iron Maiden!

Greg W
03-05-2005, 11:09:44
Yeah, they'd fit under the "old" category. ;)

Debaser
03-05-2005, 11:19:47
Iron Maiden aren't much older than U2...

Greg W
03-05-2005, 11:29:10
Jeese, they both released their first album in 1980. :eek:

I honestly thought they (Iron Maiden) were much older. I thought they were more AC/DC (1974) type age. Though I'm not sure I'd quite call them a supergroup.

Scabrous Birdseed
03-05-2005, 11:37:27
The only groups I can spontaneously think of that'd fill arenas completely in Sweden are (a) the Rolling Stones and (b) Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band. None from the past twenty-five years, in other words.

Scabrous Birdseed
03-05-2005, 11:38:03
Oh, and Kent and Gyllene Tider from Sweden. but they don't count.

King_Ghidra
03-05-2005, 11:52:06
U2 wouldn't fill arenas in Sweden?

you culturally sophisticated types you

Scabrous Birdseed
03-05-2005, 11:58:16
Oh, they probably would, but not in a "sold out in the first day" kinda way which you'd get for Bruce.

Beta1
03-05-2005, 13:01:46
REM?

zmama
03-05-2005, 13:13:35
No, not on any planet I know of ;)

sleeping_satsuma
03-05-2005, 21:06:23
Boy/girl bands replaced the supergroup surely? Look at groups like Westlife (as they were), Take That, Boyzone, Spice Girls. They're more short lived but they are the only groups apart from U2 and the Stones that can really sell out gigs like that now. Music is really diverse at the moment, you get dance, rap, pop and indie all sitting next to each other in the charts so the fan base is probably less loyal and more eclectic too.

protein
04-05-2005, 00:25:47
Were Westlife popular anywhere else? I thought they only appealed to 60 year old chav women and impressionable 13 year old girls.

Greg W
04-05-2005, 01:54:56
Never heard of them, but then again I am not up on boys/girl groups in general.

But yes, it was a bit of a commentary on both the rise of other forms of "superstars", in that Brittney, Kylie, K-Lo, 'Nsync, Boyzone, and perhaps even Eminem and the like seem to be somewhat filling the void seemingly left by the super groups.

And there don't seem to be many groups jumping in to fill the void. There were a few that almost got close. Off the top of my head, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc. But nobody really has achieved the kind of cross market appeal that perhaps only U2 does these days.

Fergus & The Brazen Car
04-05-2005, 16:03:29
Originally posted by protein
Were Westlife popular anywhere else? I thought they only appealed to 60 year old chav women and impressionable 13 year old girls.

Big in Asia, apparently. But then so are Hepatitis B and cholera, depending on where you go.

Preferable to Westlife, because at least there's a vaccine for Hep B and treatment for cholera.

Gramercy Riffs
04-05-2005, 16:38:10
Oasis?

Didnt they sell out Madison Square Garden the other day?
No mean feat.

Greg W
05-05-2005, 00:50:48
Personal opinion - when they can sell out 3-4 consecutive nights at somewhere like MSG (great acronym btw), then they could maybe qualify.

Debaser
05-05-2005, 01:25:38
Well the sold out the one date they're playing there (19763 tickets) in an hour, so they probably could fill it a couple more times if they fancied it...

Greg W
05-05-2005, 01:37:29
Originally posted by Debaser
19,763 ticketsIs that all? Bah, I thought it was a 100,000 or thereabout venue.

Ignore that previous comment then. When they can sell, say, 400,000 tickets in one big city in a week, then maybe.

Gramercy Riffs
05-05-2005, 12:39:54
They sold 250,000 tickets in less than 2 hours when they played Knebworth.

King_Ghidra
05-05-2005, 12:47:31
yeah but that was a loooong time ago

Gramercy Riffs
05-05-2005, 13:02:28
In a galaxy far, far away...........?

The MSG shows are recent, they havent even happened yet.

King_Ghidra
05-05-2005, 13:07:51
sure, but that is less than 10% of the numbers that attended knebowrth, so i think the point is valid

zmama
05-05-2005, 13:30:25
Off the top of my head, for last year, the big US draws were Springsteen, Prince and Phish. None young

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 13:38:34
Nearly 2% of the entire UK population attempted to buy tickets to see Oasis at Knebworth.

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 13:40:08
Stadium rock became old-hat. Some of the bigger draws of recent years haven't gone in for massive shows- Radiohead being an example.

King_Ghidra
05-05-2005, 14:22:46
these days there are a few solo artists who seem more capable of selling out big venues

interesting that scabrous cites 'bruce springsteen and the e street band', because let's face it, it could be animal and the muppets band behind the Boss for all the punters care

Debaser
05-05-2005, 17:09:48
I'd go if it was Animal and the Muppets backing him...

King_Ghidra
05-05-2005, 17:14:31
good point, that would be like the best gig ever

it makes me wonder though, did bruce ever appear on the muppet show and actually do such a performance?

Lazarus and the Gimp
05-05-2005, 17:33:37
Robbie Williams can fill stadiums. The prick.

Debaser
05-05-2005, 18:19:08
Not around the world he can't. Maybe Europe & some parts of Asia, but not anywhere else.

sleeping_satsuma
06-05-2005, 00:47:05
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Robbie Williams can fill stadiums. The prick.

he's a great entertainer, if you like that sort of thing.

Greg was right, I was making a general point, and I think the idea of massive gigs is even a bit outdated now with the immediacy of internet and cd/dvd technology, and the flooding of music channels on cable etc.

YOu have to be a real 'act' to sell a gig now, like Madonna or Kylie or Robbie.

Greg W
06-05-2005, 01:18:10
I also wasn't counting Robbie, as he's not a "band" per se. Thus Britney, J-Lo, Kylie etc also don't get a mention.