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DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 20:15:29
ARRARGGHGH!!!!!!

I pulled her off the phone and showed her the door, and said she has to make sure its locked in future, because its dangerous. She ran upstairs with the phone and hasnt come back down.

Now I've discovered she's been calling France on our landline- its only come to 50p so far but she never even asked to use it and she knows she isnt meant to unless she pays for it.


:bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Diss
18-04-2005, 20:16:31
leave the toilet seat up then

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-04-2005, 20:19:07
Evict her! Evict her now!

Spartak
18-04-2005, 20:23:00
what Laz said.

Gibsie
18-04-2005, 20:25:05
Originally posted by Diss
leave the toilet seat up then

Go one step further and piss in one of her bags. Just make sure she hasn't set up a webcam to capture your evil landlordly actions :gasmaske:

Asher
18-04-2005, 20:25:08
I could have told you she was a stupid fuck.

protein
18-04-2005, 20:38:54
fifty whole pence? you'd better add that to her rent.

JM^3
18-04-2005, 20:48:03
yeah.. sounds bad

JM

Lurker
18-04-2005, 21:19:07
Let her catch you sleeping with the French boyfriend. Either she'll move out or the French guy will be in for a good time.

JM^3
18-04-2005, 21:32:07
hmm, I didn't know he swung that way?

Jon Miller
(or were you talking to the login stealer?)

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 22:06:15
Originally posted by protein
fifty whole pence? you'd better add that to her rent.

the point is more that she's using the phone without permission, despite having her own perfectly good mobile phone. I shouldn't think she knows what the rate for calling France is from a landline. I'm not unreasonable- if she asked to use the phone I'd say yes. I just don't like the fact that she's been doing it without checking first or telling me later. Its basic courtesy. Especially since she worked out to the penny some money I owed her for a box of chocolates and knocked it off her rent.

fucking hell

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 22:58:48
Then charge her back for the phone call.

She was in the house when she left the door open? Or you caught her coming back and showed her that she left the door open?

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 23:02:09
BTW, your door does lock well, doesn't it? I have lived in a few houses and apartments where the front door didn't like to stay shut. You had to pull the door hard when leaving and then try to open it just to make sure they closed and engaged correctly. I ask, because it seems most people aren't in the habit of trying presumed closed and/or locked doors to make sure they really are. Of course, she could just be an typical idiot and is only pulling the door a bit, and hoping the universe will do the rest for here. The world is full of such humans.

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 23:02:09
this time she had come in and left the door open, yesterday she'd gone out and done it.

She's used the phone 3 times. I think thats taking the piss if she is trying to do it without me noticing.

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 23:03:46
Originally posted by Darkstar
BTW, your door does lock well, doesn't it? I have lived in a few houses and apartments where the front door didn't like to stay shut. You had to pull the door hard when leaving and then try to open it just to make sure they closed and engaged correctly. I ask, because it seems most people aren't in the habit of trying presumed closed and/or locked doors to make sure they really are. Of course, she could just be an typical idiot and is only pulling the door a bit, and hoping the universe will do the rest for here. The world is full of such humans.

yeah it locks properly, but I always check to make sure as it could theoretically bounce back. Doesnt everyone check their door is shut properly?

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 23:06:54
So, she came home, and got jumped by the evil ogre landlady when the ogre got home? No wonder she ran and hid. And called for moral support.

Mind you, I understand your anger. I always found it pisses me off much worse to have the house wide open and people are out the back or upstairs and plugged away into their own world. There's plenty of mean nasties that prefer to go into a home under those conditions then to bother waiting for people to leave and then break in.

It does sound like reality is being very harsh on your renter. What with the world not being centered on her. Too bad you get to be one of its instruments in her continuing education.

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 23:08:23
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
yeah it locks properly, but I always check to make sure as it could theoretically bounce back. Doesnt everyone check their door is shut properly?

No. Most people do not seem to. If they don't see it open back up as they turn, they'll walk away from an open door, and think it's shut.

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 23:11:34
to be fair I was really calm with her although it was evident i wasn't happy, but now I'm scared because she hasnt left her room all night.

We don't live in a high crime area, but its hardly crime free either, and as you rightly say, a lot of people are opportunists.

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 23:13:31
Originally posted by Darkstar
No. Most people do not seem to. If they don't see it open back up as they turn, they'll walk away from an open door, and think it's shut.

hmm...university taught me to be very security conscious. That and an anal retentive mother.

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 23:18:45
DH, you could have been as sweet as honey... but if she is feeling all picked on and defensive, or just having a bad night, then it would still feel like a very bad thing, wouldn't it?

Of course, it might have all bounced off her, and she's decided you are just wacked out and hiding from you because you are making mountains out of molehills. You cannot know what is lurking in her mind unless you ask her and she honestly tells you.

I do know that's why I only rent to friends, and even then, that gets on my nerves. At least with friends, you have some basis of trust and communication already established, so when problems come up, it's often easier to talk through. Although every once in a while, it blows up instead and can cause problems in your friendship.

Provost Harrison
18-04-2005, 23:18:53
I'd have gone fucking ballistic by now...don't piss around any more, get rid of her!

Darkstar
18-04-2005, 23:22:40
Sleeper wants to tough it out. There could be unnice scenes at work. And Sleeper seems to imply she'd feel bad, just kicking the gal out.

protein
18-04-2005, 23:23:43
You do seem to be making mountains out of molehills in my humble opinion. Probably just because you resent her being in your house. If it wasn't the door it would be her scraping toast or squeezing the toothpaste in the middle or whatever.

I've tried to get in a position where it'd just Diane and I in this house for seven years so I understand.

Is there no way you can afford the house without a lodger?

DevilsH@lo
18-04-2005, 23:24:11
I nearly rented to my best friend but she went a bit mental as she had just split up with someone so we called it quits. I'm quite glad really, as I love her but she would drive me fucking nuts.

Provost Harrison
18-04-2005, 23:57:07
I'd rip her head off and shit down her neck personally...it may be molehills, but it is her home...

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 00:03:50
Originally posted by protein
You do seem to be making mountains out of molehills in my humble opinion. Probably just because you resent her being in your house. If it wasn't the door it would be her scraping toast or squeezing the toothpaste in the middle or whatever.

I've tried to get in a position where it'd just Diane and I in this house for seven years so I understand.

Is there no way you can afford the house without a lodger?

Sorry but when someone leaves your front door open all day its not a molehill, its an invitation for someone to walk in and steal your stuff. Similarly, leaving the oven hob on is an invitation to have the fire brigade hose your house down (and your bills go through the roof). Its also not a molehill when they go through your clothes, or use your stuff without asking. Now all things individually are small things, but they collectively add up to a massive pain in the arse and not being able to trust that when I come home, all my stuff will be in one piece.

I don't think its too much to ask that if she lives here, she learns how to shut the door properly, clean up after herself and act responsibly, so that I can trust her.

Greg W
19-04-2005, 00:55:28
Kick the bitch out in the hopes that an Aussie comes over and bludges off you for a year or so. :p

Greg W
19-04-2005, 00:56:59
In all seriousness though, I'd be having a "this is your last chance" speech with her. She's either extremely stupid, or deliberately trying to piss you off. Or both. Either way I think she needs to learn a few realities.

MOBIUS
19-04-2005, 02:01:43
KICK HER OUT!

SHE OBVIOUSLY HAS NO RESPECT FOR YOU WHATSOEVER!!!

:shoot: :shoot: :shoot: :shoot: :shoot:

Is she from Paris?

Even French people hate people from Paris!:vom:

Oerdin
19-04-2005, 03:32:41
I'm a believer in three strikes and your out. She just had strike two.

Japher
19-04-2005, 03:41:46
leave the toilet seat up then

No! Put suranwrap over the door opening...

Or tie her to her bed with dental floss while she sleeps!

Provost Harrison
19-04-2005, 10:13:58
Suranwrap? What is that?

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 10:23:53
Originally posted by Oerdin
I'm a believer in three strikes and your out. She just had strike two.

My philosophy also. If the door is open again or anything else like this happens, she's outta here. I think I upset her a bit last night tho so hopefully she'll sort it out.



She's from near Lille apparently, not Paris. The last guy we had was from Paris and he was a bit more cosmopolitan than her.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 10:24:14
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Suranwrap? What is that?

cling film?

Provost Harrison
19-04-2005, 10:25:25
I was wondering if it was anything like sarinwrap :D

notyoueither
19-04-2005, 10:26:03
Give 'er the boot. The open front door is reason enough. Phone shit is just reaching.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
19-04-2005, 10:26:07
What you need is Domestic Regulation.

Set up house rules and add a fine for every violation. Wait until the accumulated fines eat up the deposit. Then kick her out.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 10:28:24
I think I am literally going to write out the rules for the next person. They can't say they haven't been warned then.

notyoueither
19-04-2005, 10:28:41
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
My philosophy also. If the door is open again or anything else like this happens, she's outta here. I think I upset her a bit last night tho so hopefully she'll sort it out.

She's from near Lille apparently, not Paris. The last guy we had was from Paris and he was a bit more cosmopolitan than her.

You think she'll learn and be good for a few weeks and then it won't happen again?

Anyone who has so little regard for her own and your property is not going to learn.

notyoueither
19-04-2005, 10:30:20
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
I think I am literally going to write out the rules for the next person. They can't say they haven't been warned then.

If you have to spell them out, you have a bad boarder.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 10:50:09
well I dunno- everyone has different ideas of how to live, and thats fair enough, but when you've been told, you've been told. She's never shared before so she probably isnt used to living up to someone elses expectations of responsible.

HelloKitty
19-04-2005, 10:54:41
Here is a link to a movie about how to settle your differences with your boarder. I recommend skipping the pile of cocaine though. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086250/)

Follow that simple guide and all will be well.

notyoueither
19-04-2005, 10:56:18
She never lived with parents who taught her that you don't leave the door open?

More like she doesn't give a shit about property, yours or hers.

You may well be setting yourself up as the antipode just by objecting and she may well invite a less than attractive crowd around to put the exclamation mark on the statement.

Good riddance to bad rubbish is a healthy sentiment.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 10:58:00
gah, I've never seen it. I tend to skip all that italian faaaamily mafia drama stuff, although I saw Carlito's Way the other day and really enjoyed it. I must be the only person in Western Civilisation who hasnt seen the Godfather either!

I like the bit about succumbing to greed tho- I just had a scotch egg, does that count?

HelloKitty
19-04-2005, 11:01:08
Italian?

This is all Cuban.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 11:14:13
same difference- short swarthy men strutting around with guns and whinging about loyalty and honour.

MDA
19-04-2005, 13:45:58
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100318/

Be careful.

BigGameHunter
19-04-2005, 19:33:26
My lord why don't you just subcontract for the local prison? Are you offering a home or a military academy?

And you did eat her chocolates...that's pretty bad.

DevilsH@lo
19-04-2005, 19:39:26
no I paid her to get me some chocolates from France last time she went back.

Trust me, I've tried to make her feel welcome and all that but she insists on skulking around and acting weird.

I offered to make her and her boyfriend a proper English roast, and she more or less said thanks but no thanks, I've let her use our stuff like washing powder, oil and salt for free, she gets free run of the house (which is not really what lodging is about, as opposed to shared renting) but she just winds me up

BigGameHunter
19-04-2005, 19:40:49
You'd last about a millisecond with an American lodger.

I can tell you stories that would make your skin crawl.

Lurker
19-04-2005, 19:42:34
Yeah, I'm an American lodger.

BigGameHunter
19-04-2005, 23:23:50
Would anyone like to be lodged in an American? K_G?

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
19-04-2005, 23:40:37
SS, next time she leaves the house, change the locks and put all her stuff out on the front step in boxes.

Unless you think that's too subtle a hint.

MOBIUS
19-04-2005, 23:41:59
Or sell everything in her room and say it was burglars

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
19-04-2005, 23:44:37
Better!

Provost Harrison
19-04-2005, 23:46:21
Haven't you told her to get the fuck out yet?

Provost Harrison
19-04-2005, 23:46:46
If you don't, I'm going to come round there and slap you repeatedly!

Japher
19-04-2005, 23:49:06
That sitcom "2 and a half men" had a great line last night;

you're like a alzheimers patient in a whore house; you're surpirsed when you find out you got screwed, and you're not willing to pay.

Do something now, or you'll regret it later.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 00:11:13
I'm too weak.....


removing rest of this post as will be accused of rampant nazism or something. Suffice to say I've had my fair share of shit housemates from around the world, including Britain.

Oerdin
20-04-2005, 00:41:56
I've been pretty lucky with house mates/landlords. I only had one horror story where the landlady had a sudden religious conversion and freaked out on me. In retrospect I should have known she was a freak but I the location was right near school and the price was right so I signed up.

The rest of it has been pretty easy going.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 00:49:36
My Kingston roomies were fab, and the last half of cardiff. The first half of cardiff was awful, and east anglia was just odd (living with 3 Egyptian men who used to nick everything and ask us to translate porn, two Hong Kong girls who spoke literally no English, one 6'5 mature Middlesborough Jesus lookalike who swore like a trooper and used to live with zulus, one Surrey boy also 6'4 who was your basic indie kid/socialist, and a Christian baptist who used to invite his jesus loving buddies round so they could all stare with glazed eyes at us heathens.) Looking back East ANglia was the most colourful really. Dinner times were incredibly strange.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 00:52:24
Originally posted by Oerdin
I've been pretty lucky with house mates/landlords. I only had one horror story where the landlady had a sudden religious conversion and freaked out on me. In retrospect I should have known she was a freak but I the location was right near school and the price was right so I signed up.

The rest of it has been pretty easy going.

so many are fooled by price! I ended up with a klepto compulsive lying bitch in Cardiff due to cheap housing. My bed actually went through the floorboards at one point. :D

Oerdin
20-04-2005, 01:00:39
I had one room mate during my first year at college who would literally nick anything you left about. He was a nice enough guy but he was caught using other people's tooth brushes, their soap, their shampoo, their dioderant, etc..

It so disgusted me that I throw everything out, bought new stuff, and kept it locked in my room. He also had the habit of eating everyone's food and not owning up to it.

Provost Harrison
20-04-2005, 01:03:40
I knew someone at uni just like that, rather gross...and I shared a house in the 4th year with the least domesticated group of people imaginable. It is why I am really not willing to share with others.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 01:10:57
sharing does suck. Hoping to ditch the lodger within 2-3 years.



Why would anyone use anyone else's toothbrush???I wouldnt even use DH's. Ewwwww!!

Provost Harrison
20-04-2005, 01:12:18
2-3 years? 2-3 hours would be good! 2-3 metres of concrete mix would be even better! :beer:

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 01:20:22
yeah but you know- student loans to pay off, blah blah. within 2-3 years the bulk of my post uni debt will be gone, and so will the lodger. i think I have about 2 years left on one loan, and 2.5 on another, which would cover what we get from the lodger. Wages go up too, and if Bracknell regeneration goes ahead (very likely) house prices should shoot up in this area, so potentailly we could be much better off. Eventually....sigh....

protein
20-04-2005, 01:20:49
We used to have seven people in this house. A really cool Spanish girl called Rebecca, me, Di, a hippy muso guy called Roo, his girlfriend, another music hippy guy called Dan and a proper insane acid casualty called "Richie Science" living in the (unconverted) attic.

protein
20-04-2005, 01:22:39
At least I think that was the case. Those years are almost completely lost to me. I was always either coming down from something or coming up on something and I never really paid attention to what was really going on.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 01:24:01
theoretically we could get another lodger here, but one is enough. Plus we'd have to start paying tax on a second lodger, which we dont have to at the moment

I think most people have to start by sharing- the only people I know who have avoided it, are those whose parents have helped out by giving their progeny enough money to get through uni debt free, or died and bequeathed much cash.

JM^3
20-04-2005, 01:40:35
I live with my freinds (best ferinds in Coollege park actually)

there are 6 of us physics grad students

and three girlsfreinds (one is also a physics grad student)

one of the girlfreinds is actually my illegal housemate (but her boyfrenid is the reason we allowed her to take the room)

Jon Miller
(we are only allowed to have 5 independent people to live int he hsoue)

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
20-04-2005, 06:06:39
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
yeah but you know- student loans to pay off, blah blah. within 2-3 years the bulk of my post uni debt will be gone, and so will the lodger. i think I have about 2 years left on one loan, and 2.5 on another, which would cover what we get from the lodger. Wages go up too, and if Bracknell regeneration goes ahead (very likely) house prices should shoot up in this area, so potentailly we could be much better off. Eventually....sigh....

So get a different one then. No reason you can't kick this one out and get some small quiet unobtrusive mousy girl who collects cacti and sharpens knives as a hobby.

Darkstar
20-04-2005, 07:02:04
A lot of the times, it's not the lodger that is a problem. It's their friends. Then, you will always sound like Mom/Dad going, "That John friend of yours is terrible! He's done it (whatever horrible and terrible thing that they've promised not to do again, like leave the front door wide open, with milk poured all over the sofa) again! He's not allowed into this house anymore!"

That usually earns a ":rolleyes: Ok Geezer!"
And then they have that person over anyways... and invite them to stay the night. Just to piss you off.

Funko
20-04-2005, 10:38:30
My landlord's my problem.

First he came round last week for a mortgage reevaluation, which was fine, we weren't in (at work) but tidied a bit and did a bit of cleaning specially the couple of evenings before.

We get back to find out he's moved all our fucking stuff around. So we complain to the letting agent - we're not renting directly through him - and his response to them was that they had to move everything because the place was in an appalling state. Fucking arse head. It was fine, and even Tizzy says it was fine if people don't trust my view on the subject. So now the letting agents are coming over on Friday to see what he was talking about.

And whatever, tell us to sort it out don't move/hide all our fucking stuff without telling us. Basically everything that was on top of something was hidden away in random drawers. My clothes were in my housemates room, his towels were in the lounge in a pile... it was fucked up.


I really don't know what his problem is, but it's a huge amount of stress I don't need. Maybe we'll end up moving sooner than I thought. :bash: :bash: Hopefully not, moving's shit.

DevilsH@lo
20-04-2005, 10:48:11
current lodger moving out beginning of July Quaj

Thats well out of order Funko- they don't have the right to touch your stuff. You are allowed to be untidy, just not dirty or to damage anything. Plus, you are also allowed to keep things where YOU see fit. I'd write a stern letter if I were you.

I never dare look in my lodger's room, she can do what she wants as long as nothing gets broken. I don't think she's changed her bedsheets in 3 months though- thats disturbing. She doesnt have any say in the rest of the house tho, which is the beauty of lodgers- high rent, no rights :D

mr.G
20-04-2005, 10:48:16
Did he smell your boxershorts?

Funko
20-04-2005, 11:02:22
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo
Thats well out of order Funko- they don't have the right to touch your stuff. You are allowed to be untidy, just not dirty or to damage anything. Plus, you are also allowed to keep things where YOU see fit. I'd write a stern letter if I were you.


Well... a stern word was had, to the letting agents not to him, and this seems to be his response.

I think that currently diplomacy is the way forward but as far as I can tell (reading it last night) we haven't broken any of the conditions on the lease so he can't just throw us out anyway.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
20-04-2005, 16:48:13
I say glue your belongings in crazy places and install a web cam for next time.

Lurker
20-04-2005, 17:21:33
I haven't changed my bedsheets since around Christmas time.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
20-04-2005, 17:30:35
What year?

notyoueither
21-04-2005, 08:24:09
If he says anything later than 1988, I'll buy a round.

Funko
21-04-2005, 09:43:08
Lurker: lie.

Greg W
21-04-2005, 12:15:17
Hey, newspapers wouldn't have lasted since 1988. So I'd say it's NYE's shout. :beer:

Lurker
21-04-2005, 16:53:25
Originally posted by Funko
Lurker: lie.

Unfortunately, it's probably true. I do sleep a lot on the sofa, though.

Funko
22-04-2005, 09:55:51
So the letting agent came round this morning.

Said the place was fine, he has no grounds to throw us out, he hasn't even got any grounds to complain about how we are keeping it. So we're still there 'till September as planned. :beer: