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King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 13:49:11
No this isn't about a new board game, just an observation.

We were talking about snakes today and i was saying it was total overkill for a snake to have a venom strong enough to kill a human because all of the venomous snakes are too small to eat something the size of a human (as opposed to the big constrictors).

Someone here mentioned that some types of snake's venom was so powerful it could kill an elephant, which i thought sounded ridiculous, but a quick google revealed a large number of webistes supporting this claim.

HOWEVER - i couldn't find one website that had any anecdotal evidence of a snake having actually killed an elephant.

Anyone heard anything diferent? Current theory in the office is that even though the amount and potency of venom that some snakes have would be enough to kill an elephant, a snake's fangs probably wouldn't be able to penetrate an elephant's hide anyway. But something makes me think surely in history a tree snake must have been accidentally eaten by an elephant or something like that...

Gramercy Riffs
07-04-2005, 13:50:45
Busy day at the office then?

miester gandertak
07-04-2005, 13:51:09
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
Anyone heard anything diferent?

yes, just a while ago my telephone rang.
really, very loud and all

Funko
07-04-2005, 13:51:21
In related news, a swan can break a human's arm.

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 13:53:13
Originally posted by Gramercy Riffs
Busy day at the office then?

:D shut it bitch

it took me longer to type that than to have the conversation :o

Funko
07-04-2005, 13:53:38
Do any of these snakes live in Africa or India?

I thought Australia had most of the most deadly snakes in the world.

protein
07-04-2005, 13:58:40
Thailand has the dealiest snakes and lots of elephants.

protein
07-04-2005, 14:00:18
Jack Denton Scott, writing in this magazine in September 1970, called the king cobra "the deadliest animal in the world," and recounted two instances of a cobra killing a full-grown elephant with a single strike. One elephant was dead within three hours of being bitten on the tip of its trunk.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3775/is_200306/ai_n9300326

Funko
07-04-2005, 14:00:45
Worlds 10 deadliest snakes:

http://groups.msn.com/FatbirdsDeerHuntingPlace/theworlds10deadliestsnakes.msnw

All Australian.

Funko
07-04-2005, 14:02:59
Originally posted by protein
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3775/is_200306/ai_n9300326

Woo! Google rules.

Gramercy Riffs
07-04-2005, 14:04:33
That would make sense, I guess the skin at the tip of a trunk is the softest. Bloody good shot from the snake though.

http://www.markpelletierphotography.com/Elephants_zim/elephant2003021400605_std.jpg

Lurker
07-04-2005, 14:05:09
This article appeared in the paper just the other day. I thought it had promise, but it turned out simply to be about snakes:

Open Wide: Decoding the Secrets of Venom (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/science/05veno.html)

protein
07-04-2005, 14:21:56
There's a difference between most toxic venom and most dangerous.

Snake Responsible For Most Human Deaths
The saw-scaled or carpet viper
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=51001

Poisonous snakes found in Thailand are Cobra, King Cobra, Banded Krait, Russell's Viper, a few species of Pit Vipers and some species of Sea Snakes.

World's Most Deadly
King cobra
Asian cobra
Black mamba
Taipan. - OK, we'll include it, if only to keep our Australian friends happy. As noted, though, taipan bites are rare, and the snake is seldom seen.

There really isn't a single most deadly snake in the world. Every snake we've looked at is dangerous enough to be worthy of the utmost respect.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3775/is_200306/ai_n9300326/pg_2

Funko
07-04-2005, 14:33:37
Originally posted by protein
There's a difference between most toxic venom and most dangerous.


http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/gwr5/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=51001




http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3775/is_200306/ai_n9300326/pg_2

Yeah, well there's no-one to bite in Australia.

Venom
07-04-2005, 14:37:25
I'm sure, sometime in history, a snake has killed an elephant. Elephants tend to get a little stompy around snakes so they know what to be afraid of.

miester gandertak
07-04-2005, 14:38:53
and mice, very afraid of mice.

miester gandertak
07-04-2005, 14:40:21
see

http://schools.moe.edu.sg/zhangde/English/images/elephant-mouse.gif

zmama
07-04-2005, 14:41:08
At least pink ones

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 14:41:34
excellent response everyone! :beer: came back from my deployment meeting and all my questions answered!

Venom
07-04-2005, 14:45:55
I'm getting a reading on the sarcasm detector, sir. Readings are as high as I've ever seen them!

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 14:49:12
recalibrate, i actually meant it - particuarly that article protein quoted.

true though, most people completely ignored the question and argued about the most poisonous snakes for no reason

zmama
07-04-2005, 14:51:07
Reason???

HARR HARR we scoff at reason!

Lurker
07-04-2005, 14:51:49
Originally posted by Venom
I'm sure, sometime in history, a snake has killed an elephant. Elephants tend to get a little stompy around snakes so they know what to be afraid of.

Jack Denton Scott, writing in this magazine in September 1970, called the king cobra "the deadliest animal in the world," and recounted two instances of a cobra killing a full-grown elephant with a single strike. One elephant was dead within three hours of being bitten on the tip of its trunk.

Venom
07-04-2005, 14:54:36
You think I read much of this thread?

Lurker
07-04-2005, 14:55:27
Of course not. I was trying to help.

zmama
07-04-2005, 14:55:51
Could have stated that better with just the first four werdz

Lurker
07-04-2005, 14:57:17
zmama is going to get sick from x-post syndrome.

Venom
07-04-2005, 14:57:21
I was reading a book about submarines just last night. It went like this.

Boat goes down. Boat goes up. Boat goes down. Boat goes up. Boat goes down. Boat goes up. Boat goes down. Boat goes up. Boat goes down. Boat goes up. Boat goes down. Boat goes up.

12 pages. Pictures and everything.

Funko
07-04-2005, 14:58:29
you are a gay twat is five words.

Lurker
07-04-2005, 14:58:31
Is Boat hot?

Venom
07-04-2005, 14:59:33
With a name like Boat?

Lurker
07-04-2005, 15:11:58
You never know these days.

Funko
07-04-2005, 15:15:04
Originally posted by Venom
With a name like Boat?

Had facial contortions as I tried not to laugh out loud at that.

Venom
07-04-2005, 15:17:34
Just let it out. Live free. Like, say, a porn star.

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 15:19:22
funko will never live like a porn star

he may die like a porn star

Funko
07-04-2005, 15:19:35
Is boat the name for the sub's slut?

Like bike but in the navy.

Venom
07-04-2005, 15:23:13
I think her name is actually Hatch, because everyone gets to go through or down.

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 15:24:13
in the navy the slut would be a man, i'm sure

Funko
07-04-2005, 15:26:22
I meant a man anyway.

Everyone knows everyone in the Navy is gay.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
07-04-2005, 16:32:30
Originally posted by Gramercy Riffs
That would make sense, I guess the skin at the tip of a trunk is the softest.

You've obviously never seen an elephant bitten on the scrotum.

EDIT my typing sucks today.

King_Ghidra
07-04-2005, 16:42:46
you have? :eek:

Japher
07-04-2005, 21:05:11
Qaj did the bitting.

Drekkus
07-04-2005, 22:50:52
Originally posted by Lurker
This article appeared in the paper just the other day. I thought it had promise, but it turned out simply to be about snakes:

Open Wide: Decoding the Secrets of Venom (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/science/05veno.html) stop posting artcles behind registration pages! :mad:

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
08-04-2005, 00:00:52
Drekkus: http://www.counterglow.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27834

Darkstar
08-04-2005, 00:01:45
Elephants have been killed by snakes.

As to why snakes have such deadly venom... the stronger it is, the less they need to use to make a kill, and the less window of opportunity for them to get hurt by whatever they've bitten, and are waiting on dieing/getting paralyzed. Leaving more for getting another meal, or if extremely needed, to defend themselves.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
08-04-2005, 04:34:43
Originally posted by Japher
Qaj did the bitting.

And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Japher
08-04-2005, 06:34:58
oh yeah

jsorense
08-04-2005, 07:10:53
From the title of this thread I thought it might be one of the missing chapters from the Kama Sutra.:(

Venom
08-04-2005, 14:36:06
No one can decode the secrets of me!

zmama
08-04-2005, 15:26:05
One could...and she's sadly gone

Venom
08-04-2005, 15:32:52
:cry:

Greg W
08-04-2005, 15:36:08
Jeese, she makes you cry, and you're still on her side. Damn those cookies must be good...

Venom
08-04-2005, 15:51:29
My Pepper made me cry.

Greg W
08-04-2005, 16:13:41
Pepper in the eye will do that...