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Funko
18-03-2005, 10:34:47
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4360461.stm

Pretty amazing really.

King_Ghidra
18-03-2005, 10:51:04
Amazing stuff. Fully deserving of it.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
18-03-2005, 10:54:10
summary?

King_Ghidra
18-03-2005, 11:08:34
we already did.

Spartak
18-03-2005, 18:35:27
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
summary? Normally you have to give your life up saving others to get one. This lad survived but fully deserves the award.

Lurker
18-03-2005, 18:46:23
Wow, that man deserves a vacation.

DevilsH@lo
18-03-2005, 19:04:07
Brave lad, and the mortality quote for VC is i think somewhere in the region of 95% so his actions put the chances of him losing his life in the 95%-100% category.

Fucking big Cahoona's.

Spartak
18-03-2005, 19:12:18
They said on radio five that experts said he had a 10% survival chance.

DevilsH@lo
18-03-2005, 19:14:29
Yeah the VC in general, from statistics, is a 1 in 10, but the figures laid down in the PAM which directs Commanding officers in the nomination of recipients states 95% although it could be 85% i'll have to check again.

Spartak
18-03-2005, 19:43:13
PAM?

Gary
18-03-2005, 20:10:08
Impressive Guy

You don't come out boasting a handful of them.

DevilsH@lo
19-03-2005, 01:19:22
Pamphlet, Publication, Regulation, Rules.

I thank you.

There were a couple of recipients who ended up with bars, non in recent history i don't think though im not sure, there may have been a posthumous award to a falklands vet with bar but i couldn't swear to it.

sleeping_satsuma
19-03-2005, 11:58:50
there was a posthumous Falklands vet indeed.

This guy must be either very mad, very brave, very nails, or a lethal cocktail of all of the above.

Nice also to see someone from an ethnic minority being recognised in this way, as there's a real problem recruiting minorities into the forces- maybe this will provide a positive example for others.

DevilsH@lo
20-03-2005, 16:34:48
You mention ethnic minorities but the other most recent non posthumously awarded VC was given to a ghurka, and they are double hard bastards.

Seem's if you want one and your white, then "YOU MUST DIE" why does that remind me of gary whatits face's character in forrest gump????

sleeping_satsuma
20-03-2005, 17:49:49
gurkhas are indeed double hard, and not given the recognition they deserve.

My point though was really that, as you yourself have acknowledged, there's about 3 black guys in the whole of the forces- maybe a few positive examples and high achievers can create paths for more to follow.

Out of curiosity...have any women been awarded VC's?

DevilsH@lo
20-03-2005, 17:57:36
Not as such but-

"Although no women have yet won the VC, a gold representation of the decoration was presented to Mrs. Webber Harris (wife of the commanding officer 104th Bengal Fusiliers) by the officers of the Regiment for her "indomitable pluck" in nursing the men of the Regiment during a cholera outbreak in September 1859. The outbreak was so bad that 27 men died in one night"

The Shaker
20-03-2005, 18:05:41
http://www.mod.uk/wewerethere/intro.html

Lazarus and the Gimp
20-03-2005, 18:08:42
Originally posted by DevilsH@lo

There were a couple of recipients who ended up with bars, non in recent history i don't think though im not sure, there may have been a posthumous award to a falklands vet with bar but i couldn't swear to it.

Nope- no bars in the Falklands, but 2 posthumous VC's were awarded. I don't think there's been a bar since WW2- some kiwi got one then.

DevilsH@lo
20-03-2005, 23:56:19
Yeah i checked after i posted it.

Only 3 people have ever got bars. Must make them double double hard bastards.

Or as you and i would say, clinically insane.

Greg W
21-03-2005, 00:09:08
That was a freaken incredible story!