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Shining1
18-02-2005, 00:50:29
Concert last night.

Band: 10 out of motherfucking 10.
Sound quality of Wespac Trust Stadium: 3 out of motherfucking 10

5000 bogans from Canterbury got the night of their lives last night. VR are just unbelievable. I really need to come back later if I want to provide any specifics about the show.

Suffice to say these guys are really really up there.

Scabrous Birdseed
18-02-2005, 07:28:12
I thought Sterling Morrison had died.

Funkodrom
18-02-2005, 09:01:30
Funny... Rachel went to see Velvet Revolver. ;)

zmama
18-02-2005, 11:59:27
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I thought Sterling Morrison had died.

My first thought, too! ;)

Sounds like a good time was had, however
VR is supposed to give good concert.
:beer:

Lazarus and the Gimp
18-02-2005, 17:03:48
Hey Shiny! Does Moe Tucker look suspiciously like a bloke these days?

King_Ghidra
18-02-2005, 17:06:09
and nico appeared for the encore?

LadyRachel
19-02-2005, 07:14:42
:lol:

Shining1
19-02-2005, 21:50:01
Heh. :o

Would be funniest if I even knew who VU were... =)

zmama
19-02-2005, 21:57:23
:lol: :lol: :lol:

KrazyHorse@home
20-02-2005, 16:22:34
Crappiest thread ever. :lol:

Lurker
22-02-2005, 19:53:28
:lol: Had me wondering ...

Classic.

Venom
25-02-2005, 20:11:23
I was little curious myself. Good to see it wasn't my stupidity fucking me up for once.

Greg W
26-02-2005, 13:39:38
Well, there's a first time for everything, Venom...

novacane
13-06-2005, 11:29:46
Just looking up some reviews of Lou Reed's Berlin (which i don't own yet, but soon will) and was mighty impressed by this fact.
It's bleak stuff, though I think it has a deranged sense of black comedy- The Kids famously having the cries of "Mummy" from Ezrin's daughters- who he had locked in a cupboard & told them their mom was not coming home (then the mic captured their reaction). Yes, it's that kind of album...

This was the dealbreaker.

Debaser
13-06-2005, 11:36:21
You didn't really read the rest of this thread did you?

novacane
13-06-2005, 11:40:36
No. It didn't look very interesting. I don't like starting new threads, so thought I'd stick it in here.

Do you want me to point out the connection between VU and Lou Reed? ;)

Funko
13-06-2005, 11:42:04
It was really funny. Shiny went to a Velvet Underground gig featuring Slash and that guy out of Stone Temple Pilots...

novacane
13-06-2005, 11:43:10
:lol: I've just found a thread called "Lou Reed - Berlin"

Maybe it should have gone there?

Funko
13-06-2005, 11:45:03
Nah, that would have been boring.

novacane
13-06-2005, 11:55:43
With the damage already done on this thread, I'm also ordering VU today after Debaser kindly aired it at ours on Friday. I thought it was excellent on first listen.

Funko
13-06-2005, 11:59:36
I haven't got that one I don't think. I've got Nico and White Light/White Heat.

Might have to pick it up. They seem to be permenantly in the 5 in FOPP if you haven't already ordered it...

King_Ghidra
13-06-2005, 12:01:46
Berlin is brilliant, go and get it.

And having heard the original velvet undergound album round at chez novacane/gramercy i will defiitely be buying it

Funko
13-06-2005, 12:03:29
I should probably get both those as well. Only Lou Reed solo one I have is Transformer, which I liked.

Debaser
13-06-2005, 12:06:00
Originally posted by novacane
Do you want me to point out the connection between VU and Lou Reed? ;)

My point was that this thread is actually about Velvet Revolver, and that there was a mistake in the thread title, but I figure you've realised that by now...

Anyway, I think all Velvet Underground albums are pretty good really, certainly good enough to order on a whim without listening to first... And check Fopp before ordering VU, 'cos that's where I picked it up for 5.

novacane
13-06-2005, 12:06:05
To avoid any confusion, the VU album I speak of is not the self-titled third album which opens with "Candy Says".

Its this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000008LZA/qid=1118660705/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_2_11/202-8301100-4853410

But they're both great. Get both. I need to give White Light/White Heat more listens I think.

Debaser
13-06-2005, 12:08:02
Originally posted by Funko
I should probably get both those as well. Only Lou Reed solo one I have is Transformer, which I liked.

After listening to the first Velvet Underground album KG said he wished he'd never heard it, because before that he'd thought P&tP were really original. :lol:

Funko
13-06-2005, 12:08:35
ps. Just to make sure - which one are we talking about?

I thought the Andy Warhol/Nico one was the first album then White Light/White Heat then the eponymous one was released a couple of years later?

novacane
13-06-2005, 12:08:39
Originally posted by Debaser
My point was that this thread is actually about Velvet Revolver, and that there was a mistake in the thread title, but I figure you've realised that by now...
Yeah I only bothered reading the thread after I had replied to you.

Anyway, at least the thread has now become a credible exchange of VU-related thoughts.

Its OK, don't thank me.

Funko
13-06-2005, 12:09:23
Originally posted by novacane
To avoid any confusion, the VU album I speak of is not the self-titled third album which opens with "Candy Says".

Its this one
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000008LZA/qid=1118660705/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_2_11/202-8301100-4853410

But they're both great. Get both. I need to give White Light/White Heat more listens I think.

:lol: massive x-post there. Teach me to start a reply then go away and come back.

Funko
13-06-2005, 12:11:11
Originally posted by Debaser
After listening to the first Velvet Underground album KG said he wished he'd never heard it, because before that he'd thought P&tP were really original. :lol:

:lol: They are big fans.

They don't just sound like Velvet Underground though. Although that wouldn't be such a bad thing. :D

Debaser
13-06-2005, 12:11:11
Originally posted by Funko
I thought the Andy Warhol/Nico one was the first album then White Light/White Heat then the eponymous one was released a couple of years later?

Yes, you're right. And the VU that Craig's talking about is a outtakes/rare stuff compilation from 1985.

Funko
13-06-2005, 12:11:43
Got it now. Combination of his link and a bit of googling. :)

Debaser
13-06-2005, 12:13:46
Haha, they must be the laziest band ever. In 1974 they put out an album called "1969 VELVET UNDERGROUND LIVE".

King_Ghidra
13-06-2005, 13:40:13
doh so the eponymous one was the third album? how bizarre

i assumed that because it didn't seem as arty and produced as nico that it was released before it

i'm full of respect that they could make such a restrained album once they had achieved stardom

Gramercy Riffs
13-06-2005, 13:41:12
I thought that too.

I think its their best album.

novacane
13-06-2005, 14:14:13
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i'm full of respect that they could make such a restrained album once they had achieved stardom

As far as I'm aware they never achieved anything even close to stardom and have only become such an iconic band retrospectively.......if anyone knows better, I'm happy to be proved wrong.

Funko
13-06-2005, 14:19:08
That was my understanding.

King_Ghidra
13-06-2005, 14:22:36
ok time for me to do some reading then, i always thought the nico album must have been huge

the time for assumptions is past, i need to learn myself good

novacane
13-06-2005, 14:23:39
Your humility is most admirable.

Debaser
13-06-2005, 14:25:42
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i'm full of respect that they could make such a restrained album once they had achieved stardom

Stardom might be overstating it a bit. They weren't remotely *famous* famous until a good few years after they'd split up.

King_Ghidra
13-06-2005, 14:29:16
*refers debaser to previous posts saying same thing*

novacane
13-06-2005, 14:38:26
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
*refers debaser to previous posts saying same thing*

:lol: That makes me feel better for originally posting in this stupid thread.

King_Ghidra
13-06-2005, 14:45:40
x-fear! :shoot:

novacane
13-06-2005, 14:47:03
Thank you CG-geek. Shouldn't you be reading? ;)

Lazarus and the Gimp
13-06-2005, 17:58:38
Originally posted by Funko
I should probably get both those as well. Only Lou Reed solo one I have is Transformer, which I liked.

Get "Berlin", "Street Hassle" and "New York"- they're the best solo Reed albums.

"The Bells" and "The Blue Mask" are good too. And "Take no pris'ners" is a hilarious live album.

Lurker the Second
13-06-2005, 21:12:31
Rock and Roll Animal, imo, ranks with any of those. Hell, Sweet Jane is enough.

One of the things I always found interesting about Lou Reed and the Velvet Underground is the variety of different versions of the same songs.

Lazarus and the Gimp
13-06-2005, 21:43:42
Originally posted by Lurker the Second
Rock and Roll Animal, imo, ranks with any of those. Hell, Sweet Jane is enough.



Yurrrrrrr.....

Reed disowned that album.

Lurker the Second
14-06-2005, 14:07:43
I never heard that. I know "purists" thought he was selling-out, but the versions he does of the VU classics on this album were great. I couldn't be a purist back then b/c this was the first Lou Reed album I ever bought.

Lazarus and the Gimp
15-06-2005, 17:42:15
"Coney Island Baby" has a few duffers, but is otherwise great.

Funko
30-06-2005, 11:13:39
Bought VU and The Velved Underground both in the HMV sale for 4.99 each.

PosterBoy
30-06-2005, 19:53:33
Another View has a great instrumental version of Ride into the sun

Fergus & The Brazen Car
01-07-2005, 12:11:16
The boxed set, 'Peel Slowly and See', has repaid its cost many times over.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002GM5/ref=pd_sxp_f/103-0566393-0323813


As has the 'What Goes On' triple:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003IWN/103-0566393-0323813?v=glance

I also have the French FNAC promo disc:

UNTITLED

Promo CDEP Les Inrockuptibles/Fondation Cartier/Fnac/Polydor 4066 Hors Commerce, France, 1990
1. Jingle Radio (0:58) / 2. One Of These Days (4:00) / 3. Pale Blue Eyes (6:21) / 4. I'm Sticking With You (2:37) / 5. Ride Into The Sun (3:47).

1 : radio ad by Bill 'Rosko' Mercer for third LP, 1969 / 2-4 : End Of Cole Ave, 19/10/69 / 5 : acetate demo, late 1969.

Limited numbered edition of 3000 copies (mine is #2542), offered with the French Polydor 4-CD box set, only in Fnac stores. Card sleeve with peelable banana sticker.

And the promo disc for 'Peel Slowly and See':

ELECTIONS FROM THE VELVET UNDERGROUND Peel Slowly And See
Promo CD, Chronicles/Polydor/Polygram PRSAD 00040, US, 1995
1. Sweet Jane / 2. Prominent Men / 3. All Tomorrow's Parties / 4. I'm Waiting For The Man / 5. I'll Be Your Mirror / 6. White Light/White Heat / 7. What Goes On (live version) / 8. Pale Blue Eyes / 9. Beginning To See The Light / 10. I Can't Stand It / 11. Rock And Roll / 12. Satellite Of Love.

12-track promo sampler from the Peel Slowly And See CD box set. digipak picture sleeve. Some copies came in the box and with the booklet of the complete set.

http://members.aol.com/olandem5/odcds.html


Yes, some bands are worth being a Hornby geek over.

novacane
01-07-2005, 12:14:56
You'll know the answer to this then. I was debating last night with 2 other CGers as to whether the self-titled third album was in fact recorded before the debut album? Can you confirm or deny this. I could easily read up I guess

Fergus & The Brazen Car
01-07-2005, 12:38:57
There's an article about the purchase of the acetate of their first album release in Record Collector which I'll try to find for you- I'm not posting from home, so can't give you a definite recording chronology but try looking through this list:

http://members.aol.com/olandem5/odlpus.html


The acetate for the first album (with Nico) is dated 1966, apparently, and 'The Velvet Underground' was released in 1969, so....

Funko
01-07-2005, 12:52:29
Didn't we cover that on the previous page?

novacane
01-07-2005, 12:56:02
:beer:

Apparantly not then. I thought I had read somwhere that the chronology was slightly mixed up and, in discussion, we kinda convinced ourselves that, as the self-titled album could be described as a slight regression in terms of complexity and perhaps diversity, then it may pre-date the actual debut in terms of recording. But, I guess a track like Beginning to See The Light can only follow the subject matter on the debut rather than preceed it.

novacane
01-07-2005, 13:00:40
Originally posted by Funko
Didn't we cover that on the previous page?

No that was clearing up the order of release. My query was whether the self-titled third album was RECORDED before Nico but released after (which we know it was).

Lazarus and the Gimp
01-07-2005, 13:05:35
It was definitely recorded later. No John Cale, but plenty of Doug Yule.