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Koshko
17-02-2005, 04:33:42
Larger Mall of America in the works
Bloomberg News

Triple Five of Minnesota plans to double the size of the Mall of America, the largest U.S. shopping center, at a cost of more than $1 billion.
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The plans, presented Tuesday to city officials in Bloomington, Minn., where the mall is, include the addition of a casino, department stores, boutiques and restaurants.

There will be a hotel with themes, including an igloo room and a Hawaiian room; a concert center; a hockey rink for public skating and ice shows; and a canal with gondolas surrounded by dancing fountains.

The 4.2 million-square-foot Mall of America has 520 stores as well as the country's largest indoor theme park, Camp Snoopy; and a 1.2 million gallon walk-through aquarium.

The number of visitors to the Mall of America likely will increase to more than 60 million a year from 40 million, Triple Five said. Construction is expected to begin within a year and be completed in 2007.

:hmm:

JM^3
17-02-2005, 04:41:16
we will soon reach the point where people will never need to leave a building...

JM

Koshko
17-02-2005, 05:07:41
Sounds good to me. I can't wait until we get rid of those pesky stairs too.

Koshko
17-02-2005, 05:12:37
Actually in highly populated areas like Hong Kong and Tokyo and New York City, there's basically nowhere to go but up. Eventually skyscrapers will reach a point where they'll be like their own cities with everything that you could think of within them. Think of only having to take an elevator 8 floors down to do grocery shopping and 28 floors down to get to work.

notyoueither
17-02-2005, 06:45:13
Originally posted by JM^3
we will soon reach the point where people will never need to leave a building...

JM

I went 6 months without going out a door to the outside while I was in university.

Gary
17-02-2005, 07:07:44
By which time you'd turned a pastey green and your lungs had evolved to cope without fresh air :)

Ah 'tis a sad thing, it'll allow folk to claim it's ok to build over every square inch of the planet. Humans will be like massive bacteria, just spreading everywhere covering every nook and cranny. Then what ?

Koshko
17-02-2005, 07:22:55
Mars

Dyl Ulenspiegel
17-02-2005, 08:27:11
Consumption bubble blowout stage. :D

Funkodrom
17-02-2005, 09:56:04
Originally posted by Koshko
Actually in highly populated areas like Hong Kong and Tokyo and New York City, there's basically nowhere to go but up. Eventually skyscrapers will reach a point where they'll be like their own cities with everything that you could think of within them. Think of only having to take an elevator 8 floors down to do grocery shopping and 28 floors down to get to work.

Have you ever read 2000AD comic? You just described MegaCity 4, the world of Judge Dredd.

JM^3
17-02-2005, 09:58:40
there is also tha idea in a *lot* of scifi novels..

Jon Miller

Provost Harrison
17-02-2005, 15:43:31
Originally posted by notyoueither
I went 6 months without going out a door to the outside while I was in university.

No, that's just sad. You should keep stuff like that to yourself ;)

Funkodrom
17-02-2005, 15:43:58
That's really sad in fact.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
17-02-2005, 15:45:45
But it explains the conversation style.

Oerdin
17-02-2005, 16:00:04
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Have you ever read 2000AD comic? You just described MegaCity 4, the world of Judge Dredd.

SimCity's Archologies too.

sleeping_satsuma
17-02-2005, 16:53:22
some japanese guy lived in his house on his own for a year as an experiment and filmed it all on webcam. He went a bit nuts apparently.

King_Ghidra
17-02-2005, 17:01:09
but in the mall there are lots of real people!

Funkodrom
17-02-2005, 17:04:33
Originally posted by Oerdin
SimCity's Archologies too.

All those other things probably stole them from 2000AD.

JM^3
17-02-2005, 20:59:11
how old is 2000 AD

the idea has been in Sci-Fi forever, it seems....

Jon Miller

Funkodrom
17-02-2005, 21:02:53
No idea. I can't get on google so my knowledge is limited to what I actually know!

The Bursar
17-02-2005, 21:06:46
1977

JM^3
17-02-2005, 21:28:32
pretty sure there are Sci-Fi stories pre that, since it was common enough in the oldest classics

JM

notyoueither
18-02-2005, 07:57:25
Originally posted by Funkodrom
That's really sad in fact.

You wouldn't have a clue, since you don't live in Edmonton, and you don't have the interconnected buildings that we have so that people do not have to go out into 20 below zero weather.

notyoueither
18-02-2005, 07:59:46
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
But it explains the conversation style.

Ok. So what's your excuse?

The Mad Monk
18-02-2005, 08:13:47
He's Austrian.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
18-02-2005, 09:02:52
I make no excuses.

Drekkus
18-02-2005, 11:00:56
Pall Mall?

Oerdin
18-02-2005, 11:16:12
Thank you.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
19-02-2005, 20:02:23
Originally posted by JM^3
pretty sure there are Sci-Fi stories pre that, since it was common enough in the oldest classics

JM

Just off the top of my head, Asimov proposed similar ideas at various levels in his "Robots" and "Glactic Empire"/"Foundation" novels in the early 50's: Caves of Steel details most of Earth-bound humanity living in giant city/domes they never left, and in the others, Trantor, Galactic capital, was an entire PLANET covered with a single city.

HelloKitty
19-02-2005, 21:58:08
Originally posted by notyoueither
I went 6 months without going out a door to the outside while I was in university.

Yeah, but you weren't enrolled, you were the Gimp for some students.

Vincent
19-02-2005, 22:14:38
Were?

zmama
19-02-2005, 22:18:20
True, with that avatar he's a natural

Koshko
20-02-2005, 05:27:17
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Have you ever read 2000AD comic? You just described MegaCity 4, the world of Judge Dredd.

Actually I saw a proposed plan for a massive skyscraper like that on some show on the discover channel.

HelloKitty
20-02-2005, 13:46:56
Arcologies were the idea of Paolo Soleri in his book Arcology: The City in the Image of Man. It was published sometime in the 60s.

They are supposed to be the fusion of archetecture and ecology.

Koshko
20-02-2005, 23:29:05
Well in many areas, you either got to build up to the sky or down into the ground. Damn people breeding.

zmama
20-02-2005, 23:44:01
its fun


maybe you can try it sometime