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HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 12:08:29
A student of mine who I absolutely hate had 2 witnesses send me e-mails last night because they saw him steal stuff from an undergrad cell bio lab!

The dept director just responded to my e-mail and said I get to handle it!!!

:beer:

It is too bad it wasn't a few weeks later, then I could fail him after the last day to drop so the F would be on his perm record rather than just comments that he is a thief.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 12:35:24
So now he's just an A-thief?

Gary
03-02-2005, 12:50:32
Not stealing one of those viruses that will destroy life as we know it, Jim ?

MDA
03-02-2005, 12:52:25
Originally posted by HelloKitty
The dept director just responded to my e-mail and said I get to handle it!!!


That is so rare. Most of the time students get away with shit because no one is willing to take the time out of work to show up at their hearings. I guess stealing actually affects the bottom line more directly than cheating.

Pissed me off as a TA when one of our newer professors refused to pursue a blatant case of cheating because it would take time and "bad student evaluations could affect her chances of getting tenure". Bullshit.

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 13:01:09
I am not a TA (never let students handle disciplinary things), not tenure track, not paid at all by the uni since I have NIH funding, and am MORE than willing to slap this kid down.

Plus students seem to like my meaness in class and teaching style. I am up for a young teacher award based on last semesters evaluations.

So, if a bad evaluation for failing a theif makes the department fire an instructor that costs them no money to use apart from classroom fees and hiring grad TAs...

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 13:03:41
This is what the meeting will look like.

http://www.antoniobanderasfans.com/movies/Atame/Atamepix/O-S/SLAP.JPG

MDA
03-02-2005, 13:14:39
Originally posted by HelloKitty
I am not a TA (never let students handle disciplinary things),

I know. That's what I mean - we had a situation where multiple GTA's and other students saw a student cheating on an exam, and the professor refused to handle it, so nothing ever happened to the cheater.

MoSe
03-02-2005, 13:41:43
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
So now he's just an A-thief?
did he work alone or in a team?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 13:56:47
Don't know, but maybe he had a plan.

Funkodrom
03-02-2005, 13:57:18
I wonder how he'd have felt if it came together?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 14:01:49
Exstatic!?

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 15:13:13
Originally posted by MDA
I know. That's what I mean - we had a situation where multiple GTA's and other students saw a student cheating on an exam, and the professor refused to handle it, so nothing ever happened to the cheater.

Well there is also the fact that this is a centralized department that contains the core curriculum for all the "life sciences" so the people who handle it are staff and not the profs.

The profs/postdocs/research staff teach all of the classes but all proctoring etc is handled by the support staff. So it is easier to get these things done since the hearing will not include any profs at all.

MDA
03-02-2005, 15:47:52
Sounds pretty good. I have to admit, failing someone for cheating at Ohio State was a bureaucratic nightmare.

Theft would probably be easier.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 15:54:54
If we catch people cheating, we simply make a protocol entry and give them a failed mark. Expulsion would be a bureaucratic nightmare, too...

DaShi
03-02-2005, 16:00:56
Come to China, if they cheat they just get to take another exam or are told that its bad and not to do it again. Even if students fail a final exam, they can ask the school to give them a make up exam that is easier.

Just last semester, we had a student applying for a graduate program in Hong Kong. He is being allowed to retake as many exams as he wants to improve his gpa.

I'm seriously thinking about just giving all my students 100s next semester.

miester gandertak
03-02-2005, 16:02:14
dooooo
di
dooooo

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 16:02:56
So that's the way the dutch handle the problem.

DaShi
03-02-2005, 16:04:24
Originally posted by miester gandertak
dooooo
di
dooooo

No one takes me seriously with this avatar! :mad:

:sleep:

miester gandertak
03-02-2005, 16:10:42
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
So that's the way the dutch handle the problem.
see it helps

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 19:53:49
Originally posted by DaShi
No one takes me seriously with this avatar! :mad:

:sleep:

That is a great avatar.

alsieboo
03-02-2005, 20:12:56
I can never make my mind up hoow old HK is. I keep getting distracted and confused.

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 20:15:26
I will be 30 in 2 days. :(

Lurker
03-02-2005, 20:17:13
Damn that's old.

alsieboo
03-02-2005, 20:17:14
really? I haven't had time to bake you a cake, or get a present or anything

HelloKitty
03-02-2005, 21:16:45
Originally posted by Lurker
Damn that's old.

Yep. Soon I will be able to throw my boobs over my shoulder.

Darkstar
03-02-2005, 22:20:36
Originally posted by HelloKitty
I will be 30 in 2 days. :(

So, you should be called HelloCat?

30? My condolences. Such a mean odometer roll over for so many.