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JM^3
31-01-2005, 07:30:15
I just gave out my bank information to a fraudalent site

why didn't I check the URL?

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 07:30:58
and the bank doesn't have anyone that I can get a hold of until 7am

fuck fuck fuck fuck

Jon Miller

Vincent
31-01-2005, 07:33:30
Accidently?

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:23:19
yah

of course

it looked like a paypal email, except for a couple of mistakes

which I missed

fuck

at least I finally found a way to contact the bank, so my checkcard is canceled and stopped

it took a couple of hours (And I talked to a police man) before I found a number that allowed me to do that

I still need to cancel the account (I put in my account number and routing number in the fraudalent site)

Jon Miller

miester gandertak
31-01-2005, 08:24:12
is that smart?

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:26:56
no, but you do put your account number and routing number into paypal (I tihnk)

now I do have all the things that automatically pull from my bank account, which I will need to switch

I have the cash that is automatically put into my bank account, which I will need to switch

even if no money goes missing, this is going to be a huge pain in the ass

Jon Miller

miester gandertak
31-01-2005, 08:28:48
will you post it in the sitcom?

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:29:03
now I need to just wait for 3.5 more hours until the customer service people from the bank become available

if what they have is my name and address, my check card info, and my routing and account number

and my check card has been stopped

is there anything that they will be able to do right away?

they don't have my online passwords, or anything

Jon Miller

Vincent
31-01-2005, 08:29:52
So I think it's a good idea to check twice if you give out your account data.

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:30:03
ummm, Jon? Are they going to let you play with nuclear reactors?

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:30:48
no, this sucks too much

I keep seeing more and more signs that I should have caught, that it was a fake

I blame tiredness

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:32:07
Originally posted by notyoueither
ummm, Jon? Are they going to let you play with nuclear reactors?

I think so

if I wanted to

actually, I think that is what the department feels I should do (they think that my grades are too low for theory, and there are lots of experiment openings in high energy...)

Jon Miller

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:32:41
Please get some sleep before playing with the nuclear reactors. ;)

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:33:04
I really shuold jsut go to a cell and never be allowed out

Jon Miller

Vincent
31-01-2005, 08:34:42
Ah, come on.

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:35:48
Don't be too hard on yourself. The only reason they send those emails is that some 1 out of a 1000 or so will respond. Look at the bright side, you aren't the first, and at least you realised quickly.

Hopefully you'll be as quick at three mile explosion.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:36:33
should I cancel my paypal account also?

or not yet

Jon Miller

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:36:49
Of course, you do realise that we are supposed to give you a lot of stick over this, right?

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:37:47
Originally posted by JM^3
should I cancel my paypal account also?

or not yet

Jon Miller

Couldn't hurt if any of the info related to it.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:39:32
but it seems as if I close the account, I won't be able to talk to paypal about the fraudalent email

Jon miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:40:49
Originally posted by notyoueither
Of course, you do realise that we are supposed to give you a lot of stick over this, right?

yah
but I figured the advice (And someone to talk to while I wait) would be worth the shit

JonMiller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:41:11
Originally posted by JM^3
but it seems as if I close the account, I won't be able to talk to paypal about the fraudalent email

Jon miller

and site

Jon miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:41:39
I don't even want to go to comic sites

:(

Jon Miller

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-01-2005, 08:41:57
I don't know how your online bank account is set ("routing number"?), but if it's the usual PIN/TAN procedure, they can't make transactions.

Unless you gave them TANs also.

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:44:31
Originally posted by JM^3
but it seems as if I close the account, I won't be able to talk to paypal about the fraudalent email

Jon miller

Just ask Paypal to freeze the account.

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:45:12
Originally posted by JM^3
yah
but I figured the advice (And someone to talk to while I wait) would be worth the shit

JonMiller

Now you've hurt my feelings. :(

;)

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:45:47
what is TAN?

and my checkcard is canceled and stopped

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:46:42
I don't see freeze account, only close account

Jon Miller

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:48:07
Can you close it and have the balance transferred back to you? That should stop any chicanery.

You should still be able to talk to them later at a security email address.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:48:24
also, additionally (but completely seperately) I managed to get some sort of spyware on my computer

what would be a good program to get it off

it doesn't seem to be going (it only comes up when IE is running)

Jon Miller

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-01-2005, 08:48:39
Do you have to enter a special transaction number (aka TAN) to finalise/sign a transaction on your account?

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:49:19
I dont' have anything sitting in Paypal

I am going to close it, and send emails to their support

Jon Miler

notyoueither
31-01-2005, 08:49:58
Originally posted by JM^3
also, additionally (but completely seperately) I managed to get some sort of spyware on my computer

what would be a good program to get it off

it doesn't seem to be going (it only comes up when IE is running)

Jon Miller

Spybot's pretty good.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:50:07
I dont' think I have ever transfered something

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 08:56:46
I generally just pull cash out of ATMs

and deposit checks in the bank (And have autodeposit with work)

and I pay credit cards with autopay (as well as cell phone)

and I pay utilities with Paypal

and I pay rent with checks (only thing I use checks for)

Jon Miller

The Mad Monk
31-01-2005, 09:25:11
Originally posted by JM^3
I don't even want to go to comic sites

:(

Jon Miller

???

HelloKitty
31-01-2005, 09:30:05
I am sure your bank has a theft protectiuon program. Things will be fine especially since you reported it all right away.

At 7 talk to the CS people, they will change your account info, order you new checks, etc.

It will probably cost you about 100$ total if there are charges going to your account.

Gary
31-01-2005, 09:30:08
Err.. Whoops !


Uh... best of luck. I'll be back when I figure out the best way to take the piss.

And in my experience banks tend to be fairly ok about clearing up this sort of mess. When I spotted on my statement that someone had bought something, apparently using my debit card number, I just had to report it to the police, and confirm that the purchase wasn't mine in order to get reimbursed. Reputations and all that are important to the bank it seems.

Oerdin
31-01-2005, 09:55:27
Phishing sucks. My policy is to not use links in e-mails and instead retype the URL or use one of my favorites buttons since I know those links are legit.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 12:24:15
Originally posted by The Mad Monk
???

felt too bad

I talked to them, fortunately no money goes into or out of my account until midnight today nomatter what

so I made a new account, and when I can go in at 9 am, I will switch all the money from the old account to the new one

Jon Miller

Funkodrom
31-01-2005, 12:29:24
Jon, I might be coming over to the States in the summer, can we film the first episode of Being Jon Miller then?

MDA
31-01-2005, 12:39:51
Excellent. I'll help pay his bail and/or medical bill. :lol:

Had a JM moment a few years ago when I thought I lost my wallet. Cancelled everything, then found the wallet exactly where I had looked for it ten times already. Its a royal pain in the ass Jon, but better than the alternative.

I'd advise checking to see that no new bank accounts or credit cards have been issued to you today.

Funkodrom
31-01-2005, 12:44:47
A friend of mine did that. She cancelled everything then found her wallet in the pocket of the coat she'd been wearing the previous night.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 13:10:45
Originally posted by MDA
Excellent. I'll help pay his bail and/or medical bill. :lol:

Had a JM moment a few years ago when I thought I lost my wallet. Cancelled everything, then found the wallet exactly where I had looked for it ten times already. Its a royal pain in the ass Jon, but better than the alternative.

I'd advise checking to see that no new bank accounts or credit cards have been issued to you today.

how do you check that?

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 13:11:44
I guess it could be possible that the site is just messing with people

but not going to risk it

Jon Miller

Venom
31-01-2005, 13:13:26
Don't worry, you probably misspelled or mistyped something anyway.

miester gandertak
31-01-2005, 13:14:25
Originally posted by Venom
Don't worry, you probably misspelled or mistyped something anyway. :lol:

JM^3
31-01-2005, 13:14:37
I did, but I fixed it

:(

Jon Miller

miester gandertak
31-01-2005, 13:15:01
:lol: :lol:

Tizzy
31-01-2005, 13:16:56
:lol:

Venom
31-01-2005, 13:20:41
If only you showed that much care posting.

zmama
31-01-2005, 13:21:03
Oh poor Jon.

I really do feel for you.

zmama
31-01-2005, 13:23:01
This is "The Office" worthy stuff. Hysterically funny but makes you cringe and want to hide, 'cause it hurts too

Funkodrom
31-01-2005, 13:26:02
Originally posted by JM^3
I did, but I fixed it

:(

Jon Miller

:lol: :cry: :lol:

HelloKitty
31-01-2005, 13:39:47
Originally posted by JM^3
I did, but I fixed it

:(

Jon Miller

Bestest post EVA

Venom
31-01-2005, 13:41:57
What kind of bank doesn't have 24 hour support.

Colon
31-01-2005, 14:53:40
Originally posted by JM^3
also, additionally (but completely seperately) I managed to get some sort of spyware on my computer

what would be a good program to get it off

it doesn't seem to be going (it only comes up when IE is running)

Jon Miller

Try googling for Adaware and Spybot. (it's best to use a combination of program for removing the crap from your computer)

Venom
31-01-2005, 15:06:30
Adaware is way better than spybot.

Vincent
31-01-2005, 15:08:49
But is it cool?

Vincent
31-01-2005, 15:09:20
Originally posted by Colon
Try googling for Adaware and Spybot. (it's best to use a combination of program for removing the crap from your computer) Try also "Civ3 uninstall"

zmama
31-01-2005, 15:10:31
But be careful to get it from lavasoft

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/software/adaware/


There is a parasite out there with a similar name and of course Jon would get it

Colon
31-01-2005, 15:10:44
Depends. Either program detects and removes crap that the other one won't.

Colon
31-01-2005, 15:11:26
Wow! Totally massive x-post there.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 15:27:20
well

it turns out that because I put in so much saturday (~17k)

some of it is on hold

so I couldn't close out the account (I moved everything I could

so I will need to be back on wednesday and next monday to do transfers (and next monday I can close out the account)

I did put down notes on it (like to trasfer or whatever I have to be at the counter and request it and show my drivers license)

so basically I think all I have to worry about is the couple of hours after I lost my info and before I closed the card

although I would feel a lot better if the account was closed

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 15:28:27
so basically there is about an hour that I need to worry about (I fucked up after midnight)
Jon Miller

Colon
31-01-2005, 15:41:07
Good luck.

Venom
31-01-2005, 15:45:17
17k? Jbn Maaaaaar is rich. Let's steal from him....After those internet guys get done of course. They got dibs.

MoSe
31-01-2005, 15:54:45
Originally posted by MDA
Had a JM moment a few years ago when I thought I lost my wallet. Cancelled everything, then found the wallet exactly where I had looked for it ten times already. Its a royal pain in the ass Jon, but better than the alternative.
[/B]

I think this is the appropriate thread to post this too.

I just go a new PC at the office.
I managed to transfer the personal data and files myself over the net.
During the checks, I realised I had forgot my whole "personal" subfolder (some files wouldn't got copied, so I had to do it in bits).
So I went to recheck to make sure it was all there, and signed the liberatory to the technician who came to retire my old laptop.

Well, I went to reconfigure and reattach all the old bits, and.... my .pst are gone!
I was SURE I saw them being copied, but....
That means 3 years of email, both work and personal.
That so german and thorough email Vincent sent us with the directions for the Hamburg meeting!
all lost!
:bash:

ah, yeah, I forgot to say, I called the guy as soon as I realised it, and he had just formatted my old HD....

HelloKitty
31-01-2005, 15:57:55
Originally posted by Venom
17k? Jbn Maaaaaar is rich. Let's steal from him....After those internet guys get done of course. They got dibs.

Sounds like someone just got thier financial aid check.

Venom
31-01-2005, 16:09:25
It will aid me in getting drunk or paying for hookers.

Venom
31-01-2005, 16:10:14
Or more likely, both.

HelloKitty
31-01-2005, 16:11:57
I thought aslieboo was coming to see you for cheap.

Venom
31-01-2005, 16:12:49
I'm a large man, with insatiable needs.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 18:48:36
Originally posted by HelloKitty
Sounds like someone just got thier financial aid check.

yep

more than I needed

but I was unsure about employment this semester

Jon Miller

Dyl Ulenspiegel
31-01-2005, 19:00:34
I want a financial aid check, too. :(

Asher
31-01-2005, 19:17:37
Use Thunderbird, it has anti-phishing protection.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=171937

JM^3
31-01-2005, 19:27:28
I do use thunderbird

Jon Miller

Vincent
31-01-2005, 20:01:10
So it has no Jon Miller protection

zmama
31-01-2005, 20:09:44
Thst wolud be a very pwoerful spell

MDA
31-01-2005, 20:14:20
Eye of newt, $25
Powdered ruby, $300
squid sepia, $16
Parchment paper, $23

Knowing the universe is not going to suddenly start raining pianos on your head, priceless.

That all seemed a lot funnier when I started it.

fp
31-01-2005, 20:18:19
Oh, Jon.....


:lol:

zmama
31-01-2005, 20:18:41
I'd would have been if spelled Jkm MOkked way

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 20:33:58
Originally posted by JM^3
I think so

if I wanted to

actually, I think that is what the department feels I should do (they think that my grades are too low for theory, and there are lots of experiment openings in high energy...)

Jon Miller

Its comforting to know they put the low grades on nuclear detail :eek:

JM^3
31-01-2005, 21:46:13
nuclear experiments are pretty boring and standard

it is not an exciting and interesting area in physics

the high energy stuff is exciting and interesting, but they have 100s of people per experiment

and it is easier stuff for the most part

also, the whole grades thing is that theorists are the only physicists who really care about the difference between an A and a B

I talked to the professor I would like to work with just now

he was a lot freindly than last time (last time I felt I was on the hot stove), but said he was busy and to come back tomorrow

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 21:49:36
basically all physicists should be compitient, and because it is generally pretty nerdy people in physics, they are even ok with a certain ammount of dumbassery

so no issue with anything dangerous

so the only dividing line is that of ability for very complex things (because every experimentalist can find useful employment in physics)

I personally think that a good experimentalist is as rare as a good theorist

it is just that average experimentalists (still easily able to handle anything nuclear ;) ) have an easier time finding a job

the concern is that I will be an average theorist, not a good one

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 21:53:19
I actually almost blinded myself while doing optics experiments my junior year (it was physical optics, so cool stuff)

I feel that I am sort of incompitent in lab, but that isn't seen by grades or anything, just how likely I am to screw up and kill myself (in the garduate electronics lab, I was the fastest and best student..)

actually the lab I was the best at was the electronics one (followed by the nuclear one)

Jon Miller

Provost Harrison
31-01-2005, 21:57:48
What a fuckwit :p

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:00:24
I will never, ever believe that guy is in any other college than clown college.

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 22:02:05
Originally posted by JM^3
I actually almost blinded myself while doing optics experiments my junior year (it was physical optics, so cool stuff)

I feel that I am sort of incompitent in lab, but that isn't seen by grades or anything, just how likely I am to screw up and kill myself (in the garduate electronics lab, I was the fastest and best student..)

actually the lab I was the best at was the electronics one (followed by the nuclear one)

Jon Miller

I'll say it again...its comforting to know they put the low grades on nuclear :)

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:04:20
So when he says electroncis lab, he really means that hand buzzer that zaps your hand when a clown shakes it.

He did great in that.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 22:05:49
it is just that grades don't show anything of experimental ability

some of the best people at making experiments work have lower grades

and theorists (who have higher grades in general) often are incompetitent with experiments

(you would never want a large number of high energy theorists I know working on a dangerous experiment)

Jon Miller

miester gandertak
31-01-2005, 22:06:28
bzzzzzzzzzz :lol:

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 22:08:38
its the fact you nearly blinded yourself that inspires me with confidence JM

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 22:09:02
that and the way you're so cheerful about it :)

JM^3
31-01-2005, 22:10:10
I didn't say you should be confident in me

I have the experimental ability of someone with much higher grades than I

I am just saying that experimental ability is usually not at all correlated with the higher grades

Jon Miller

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:10:21
physical optics is pie throwing. See, Jnn Mellir didn't read the chapter on making the pies and made his with crust. Which as any professional knows is wrong as crust pieces can blind. You've got to make your pies with just whip cream. Hence his near blindness.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 22:11:07
Originally posted by sleeping_satsuma
that and the way you're so cheerful about it :)

it is no good staying down and depressed about things

better to be cheerful (or pretend to be cheerful)

feeling bad sucks

Jon Miller

JM^3
31-01-2005, 22:12:09
Originally posted by Venom
physical optics is pie throwing. See, Jnn Mellir didn't read the chapter on making the pies and made his with crust. Which as any professional knows is wrong as crust pieces can blind. You've got to make your pies with just whip cream. Hence his near blindness.

ha

shows what you know

I wouldn't have a clue about how to make a pie, with or without crust

Jon Miller

Darkstar
31-01-2005, 22:12:37
Originally posted by JM^3
how do you check that?

Jon Miller

Funny you should ask that.

My company just had a laptop containing a complete listing of all (former and current) company stockholders private info stolen. (The info, of course, was in simple Excel and Word documents. Security, what's that?) Our HR people are telling us its probably just some crack junkie who stole the laptop and pawned it, but that don't mean shit.

Anyways, this is what they tell us...


You should take the following actions to further reduce the risk or impact of identity theft:

* Place a fraud alert in your credit file with any one of the three national credit reporting agencies (Equifax 800-525-6285; Experian 888-397-3742; and TransUnion 800-680-7289) as a precautionary measure.

There is no cost to you for doing this. It is a simple process that should take only a couple minutes to complete. Placing a fraud alert with any one of the three national credit agencies will automatically result in notification to the two other major credit bureaus. A fraud alert warns creditors to contact you before opening any new accounts or changing information on your existing accounts. This reduces the risk and potential impact of identity theft.

* Contact your bank, credit card company, or other financial institution and inquire about adding a security passphrase to your accounts. This will increase the level of personal identification required to make changes to your accounts and can provide an additional level of security and protection.

* Monitor your credit history by obtaining and carefully reviewing credit reports from Equifax, Experian and TransUnion. These reports can be obtained by calling these companies at the numbers indicated above and may be available at no cost. Under a recent Federal Trade Commission (FTC) rule, the three national credit reporting companies are required to provide consumers with a free credit report annually upon request; however, the implementation of the rule is being phased in on a regional basis. You can determine your eligibility for free reports on the following FTC site:
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/06/freeannual.htm If you are ineligible for the free reports, a report can be obtained for a modest fee.

* If you detect any unauthorized or even suspicious activity in your accounts, immediately contact the account issuer (e.g., your credit card company), advise them of the unauthorized charges or other transaction and the possibility of identity theft. You may want to consider closing or changing the account.

* Access the federal government's central website for identity theft information at http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft or contact the Federal Trade Commission at 877-ID-THEFT/877-438-4338 for additional information on the best way to respond to a possible identity theft.

Additional useful information is available at the California Attorney General's website: http://www.caag.state.ca.us/idtheft/tips.htm

We recognize that the above information is most relevant for our U.S. based stockholders. Guidance on actions that our international stockholders should take will be provided separately.

* If you should become the victim of identity theft, file a police report with your local police to assist in apprehending the thief and obtain a copy of the report. You should then also notify SAIC's Stockholder Help Desk at (866) 478-0433. The Stockholder Help Desk will provide information on additional resources that the Company will provide to any victims of identity theft, including the services of a company specializing in assisting victims of identity theft.

We deeply regret the inconvenience and concern this event may have caused you. We are doing all we can to assist the authorities in apprehending the individuals responsible for this crime and mitigating its impact on you. Your patience and cooperation in this very difficult situation is greatly appreciated.

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 22:12:54
Originally posted by Venom
physical optics is pie throwing. See, Jnn Mellir didn't read the chapter on making the pies and made his with crust. Which as any professional knows is wrong as crust pieces can blind. You've got to make your pies with just whip cream. Hence his near blindness.

hmmmm...pie...cream..

I'm simultaneously horny and hungry

Darkstar
31-01-2005, 22:14:59
Originally posted by Venom
What kind of bank doesn't have 24 hour support.

That would be, most of them. ;)

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:16:45
Damn you potato head.

JM^3
31-01-2005, 22:16:50
yah

but there is a 24 hour number to call and put a hold on your check card

too bad it took me ~2 hours to find it (it wasn't on the card or anywhere on the site IC ould find, I found it on a info card they gave me when I opened the account)

Jon Miller

Darkstar
31-01-2005, 22:20:49
Originally posted by sleeping_satsuma
hmmmm...pie...cream..

I'm simultaneously horny and hungry

Perfect grrl for Venom.

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:25:15
One could do worse.

Darkstar
31-01-2005, 22:29:06
Originally posted by Venom
Damn you potato head.

It's so nice to know I'm still loved. :heart:

Venom
31-01-2005, 22:30:28
Originally posted by Darkstar
Perfect grrl for Venom.

By the way, Christina Aguilera said, "Shut the fuck up".

sleeping_satsuma
31-01-2005, 22:31:42
how about it Venom?

*seductive wink*
*slathers self in pie*

Darkstar
31-01-2005, 22:32:10
When did you start hanging with Christina? Boy, "People" and "Us" both missed out on that celebrity bonding!

Venom
01-02-2005, 01:27:37
You never know where I'm going to turn up.

And did someone say pie?

Darkstar
01-02-2005, 04:56:43
Yeah. That sleeping fruit right there.

Venom
01-02-2005, 05:01:56
Mmmm pie.

Funkodrom
01-02-2005, 09:19:34
Originally posted by JM^3
it is no good staying down and depressed about things

better to be cheerful (or pretend to be cheerful)

feeling bad sucks

Jon Miller

Very true. :beer:

Gary
01-02-2005, 09:58:29
Yes true, but faking joy isn't exactly comfortable either. One needs to raise one's spirits gradually I think, for best results. Preferably a good malt.