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Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 12:05:54
Well I have been working where I am for 10 months and I haven't received a pay rise yet, yet some of my colleagues who have been there for some time have despite the fact I get lots of praise heaped on me. So naturally, rather disgruntled I go and see my manager and mention this fact. They were apologetic and said as there has been 3 different laboratory managers in the past 10 months it is irregular and it looks like an oversight so my manager is looking into it. One of the others got 10% and I am longer serving and have more responsibilities and they are very keen on retaining me.

So with any luck: :beer:

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 12:06:58
Good luck.

MOBIUS
26-01-2005, 12:07:13
Will you know by Saturday...?:cute:

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 12:09:48
Well the manager only has to have a quick look through and it should be sorted, so I should, yes...but alas I won't receive it until my contract changeover (now that is a long story).

Tizzy
26-01-2005, 12:10:31
Beers are still on you :)
Good luck

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 12:12:49
Hey, that means he can move to Charlton?

Tizzy
26-01-2005, 12:14:31
Oh shit, yeah
:nervous:

miester gandertak
26-01-2005, 12:19:05
neighbours everybody needs good neighbours............................

Scabrous Birdseed
26-01-2005, 12:26:55
What? You've not been fired? What happened?

King_Ghidra
26-01-2005, 12:32:40
good luck anyway

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 12:39:57
I think I am going to opt for Eltham anyway, so you're safe Tizzy :p

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 12:40:42
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
What? You've not been fired? What happened?

Novartis are a bunch of wankers, that is all ;)

Scabrous Birdseed
26-01-2005, 12:57:11
So now that you're not a temp anymore, will you come visit me in Sweden?

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 13:08:12
Actually I may just do that...what are your plans for the summer?

protein
26-01-2005, 13:14:21
You know they are just trying to buy time to find your replacement now right?

Scabrous Birdseed
26-01-2005, 13:22:24
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Actually I may just do that...what are your plans for the summer?

Not sure yet. Since I'm done with my studies in june I'll try to look for a more permanent job in either Ume or Stockholm... If that proves too difficult I'll look for a summer job and try to get a foot in through there.

Also I desperately need to get a driver's licence if I'm gonna stay in Ume.

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 13:23:44
Yeah, I can imagine up there it would be really handy, although I wouldn't fancy driving to Stockholm :eek: A damn long way...

Scabrous Birdseed
26-01-2005, 13:32:38
It's not that it's just handy (Ume is a York-sized town with precious little of interest around it) but many potential employers see it as a prequisite. For instance, TV4, the big commercial TV company that (a) I'm going to have work experience at in a few weeks time and (b) is currently expanding its regional operations, only has one-man camera-reporter "teams", meaning I'd have to bring myself and a camera to the most ridiculous places as quickly as possible.

MoSe
26-01-2005, 13:37:59
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I have been working where I am for 10 months and I haven't received a pay rise yet, ... One of the others got 10% and I am longer serving...

Interesting...
here, the national contract ruling the Telecommunications Sector states that by default the employees are to receive an automatic pay rise corresponding to ~350/year, every *other* year... at my level, that means ~ +1.1%/2yrs...
Of course, you can individually negotiate with your manager, according to your ambitions, goals, performances, incentives...
But considering our boss barely has half the budget he'd need for the current opex, I doubt they have allocated him anything he can dispose of to distribute extra pay rises....

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 13:41:24
I think that means you're not currently underpaid and he is?

MoSe
26-01-2005, 14:37:01
I'm widely overpaid for the work I *actually* do! :D ;)
I might be a little underpaid for the workmarket and my qualifications, but then I didn't actually earn/worth those qualifications :cute:

at least that's how I generally feel

It means that I got employed in march 2001, then there had been a merger in 2002 (we'd been gobbled that is), and as of now I still get the same money, except for that default 350/y rise which occurred once so far

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 22:30:22
Well I work for one of the largest, richest and most prestigious pharmaceutical companies in the world - trust me, money isn't a problem for them ;)

And they need to retain me because Pfizer are sniffing around for more analysts in Kent :D

Japher
26-01-2005, 22:33:50
PfizerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrD

:p

Would you work for Merck?

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 22:34:35
Yeah, I'm a slut...depends on who pays ;)

Darkstar
27-01-2005, 02:17:42
Congrats!

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 10:03:43
FunkyFingers worked for Pfizer in his year out before uni. He had a human brain in a freezer in his office. Coolest thing ever.

The Mad Monk
27-01-2005, 10:46:06
The human probably didn't think so.

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 10:49:21
He said it was colder than canada in winter.

Provost Harrison
27-01-2005, 11:55:47
Originally posted by Funkodrom
FunkyFingers worked for Pfizer in his year out before uni. He had a human brain in a freezer in his office. Coolest thing ever.

It probably would be pretty cool if it was in a freezer :D

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 12:05:59
That's the PHd - Right there an expert at work.

Provost Harrison
27-01-2005, 12:08:22
It's a textbook example...I couldn't resist :D

Provost Harrison
01-02-2005, 19:38:42
...but meanwhile back at the ranch...

Well still no news on the payrise - my manager is getting all the particulars from HR to assess the pay levels (I think it is more than me affected by this), but it looks highly likely that I could have a permanent position (at long bleeding last) anyway...so fingers crossed even more ;)

MDA
01-02-2005, 19:43:53
Sweet. Don't spend it all in one bar ;)

I'm supposed to get one in May.

Oerdin
02-02-2005, 02:44:26
Best of luck PH. You've worked hard to get where you are so you deserve a bit of a raise. ;)

protein
02-02-2005, 02:46:47
PH works? I thought he lay around in gutters mumbling to people about the second coming.

Japher
02-02-2005, 03:17:44
he's a lab rat... so, yeah he works... and lays around in gutters mumbling to ppl about the second coming (his second cumming of course)

MoSe
02-02-2005, 10:27:31
Originally posted by Japher
and lays around in gutters mumbling to ppl......help me raise!

miester gandertak
02-02-2005, 10:29:08
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
...but meanwhile back at the ranch...

Well still no news on the payrise - my manager is getting all the particulars from HR to assess the pay levels (I think it is more than me affected by this), but it looks highly likely that I could have a permanent position (at long bleeding last) anyway...so fingers crossed even more ;) Shall i send a picture to your manager?

I am a great help

fp
02-02-2005, 12:52:29
I got a pay rise today! :beer:

King_Ghidra
02-02-2005, 12:53:12
yaaay!

Special Ed
02-02-2005, 13:33:43
Yaaaay!

Gary
02-02-2005, 13:35:55
Congrats. So, it's your round then ?

fp
02-02-2005, 13:47:43
Booo!

King_Ghidra
02-02-2005, 14:02:38
i always think that special ed picture is a face painted on a tit

MDA
02-02-2005, 15:26:22
Just found out I got converted from a staff fellow to a real GS rated government worker. I if I don't do any work now, the worst they can do is promote me!

zmama
02-02-2005, 15:37:12
Woo...the house is a bit easier now?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
02-02-2005, 16:04:00
"GS rated government worker"

Pornograhy Official?

MDA
02-02-2005, 16:11:44
I wish. :lol: General Service, I think.

Conversion doesn't come with a raise, just job security. :)

I get a big (one full grade) raise after one year, coming up in May. It will mean we can have the overpriced house *and* occasionally take a vacation.

anyone else getting a raise that wants to steal PH's thunder? :p

zmama
02-02-2005, 16:13:35
Or is it Government Schedule?

MDA
02-02-2005, 16:17:34
We were half right. Its General Schedule.

zmama
02-02-2005, 16:20:50
Half will do

A full pint is a bit too much for me for lunch ;)

MDA
02-02-2005, 16:22:12
Yeah, a pint of wine all at once would give anyone a bellyache.

zmama
02-02-2005, 16:25:37
Not for very long
:/

MattHiggs
02-02-2005, 17:39:30
Yep, I'm due another promotion at the end of this month. 11% raise hopefully!

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 08:44:45
Should get tenure by October. Due to the odd old pay schedule I'm in, I'll get pay rises in April or May, October, and January (about 15 % total).

Beta1
03-02-2005, 09:31:08
that is a bit weird, good but wierd.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-02-2005, 10:17:08
Totally weird. I will have the requirements by April/May, but formally can only make the change in October. But I get an increased Dienstalterszulage instantly. And January is the bi-annual increase, plus general pay adjustment (usually about 2 %).

I'd prefer a clear and simple pay regime.

Provost Harrison
03-02-2005, 19:41:49
Oh well the fun continues...my current agency has now gone into receivership and thus I have not being paid on Friday or will be paid tomorrow which leaves me in the shit a bit. Things are under control though, as the agency is now in breach of contract with both me and the company. As GSK do not pay them that quickly it looks like they still have the money and a new agency is being sorted out pretty promptly so I can get the pay to me promptly.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 14:41:53
:beer:

Permanent position, with 4k payrise excluding bonus (which I now get) and overtime and full priveleges (pension, dental care, share options, etc).

Woohoo!

Funko
03-03-2005, 14:43:33
Time for Tizzy to flee Charlton then. ;)

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 14:45:28
Oh, and another 6 days holiday a year too :D

Tizzy is safe, I am moving to Eltham (just a bit further south) not Charlton...so not to worry. Got that sorted out. A two bed house believe it or not :D

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 14:48:33
Oh, healthcare cover too :D

Lurker
03-03-2005, 14:50:03
Congrats. Good for you. :beer:

MoSe
03-03-2005, 14:50:08
includes beheading?

MDA
03-03-2005, 14:51:01
:beer: Nice job.

Funko
03-03-2005, 14:51:29
I should have a pay review soon. Hope it's a quadzillion pounds. Wish I had bonuses like pension and shit. Should work for a bigger company.

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 14:52:22
no pension?!

so you started one yourself i take it

Funko
03-03-2005, 14:52:45
Of course not.

I will at some point soon.

Tizzy
03-03-2005, 14:54:14
Nice work Provost :beer:

I might flee anyway, just to be safe......

Venom
03-03-2005, 14:54:17
Me too.

Funko
03-03-2005, 14:55:59
In fact after working for 8 years I have pretty much no savings, no pension nothing at all in fact.

Have had a great time though and done very little work.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 14:58:34
Thanks chaps, I am just wading through all the paperwork now with all the details...just need to put pen to paper :D

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:00:10
But you were right Funko about moving to a southern drug company when we had that conversation a bit before I actually moved down here. After this I will be earning about 2.5x what I was earning up in Hull...

Funko
03-03-2005, 15:01:21
Yes, well it was pretty obvious. :)

Putting that no savings thing like that is pretty depressing but at least I have no debts so I'm a lot better off than a lot of people my age.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:04:36
Well thus far I have no savings but plenty of debts :D

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 15:08:49
Originally posted by Funko
Yes, well it was pretty obvious. :)

Putting that no savings thing like that is pretty depressing but at least I have no debts so I'm a lot better off than a lot of people my age.

sure.

i went from having no savings to about 10k over about 3-4 years.

Without that money there was no way i could have put down a deposit on the new home, + pay all the other costs, so although that wasn't my original goal in saving, i'm glad i did it.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:14:40
The deposit + related costs was 10000 pounds?

Funko
03-03-2005, 15:16:03
Sounds about right if not a bit low.

Funko
03-03-2005, 15:17:13
I only started saving anything last year. Should have before - stupid depression!

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:17:55
You blame Hoover?

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 15:18:14
house 150k

deposit 10k (8k from me, 2k from the gf)

stamp duty 1.5k

mortgage and solicitor's fees, roughly another 1.5k

so far...

Asher
03-03-2005, 15:18:33
What the fuck is a payrise.

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 15:18:40
btw congrats provost :beer:

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:18:45
Originally posted by Funko
Sounds about right if not a bit low.

Sounds extremely low.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:20:01
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
house 150k

deposit 10k (8k from me, 2k from the gf)



You have a mortgage of 140k on capital of 10k?

MoSe
03-03-2005, 15:21:17
Originally posted by Funko
In fact after working for 8 years I have pretty much ...nothing at all in fact.

By us, we have a.... "End of Relationship Treatment" (literally)

That is (this may vary from company to company and between industrial sectors), a company owes you an annual total income, but they don't trust it in your hands 1/12th per month.
They only give you 1/14th per month.
At the end of the year you got 12/14ths of your income.
The 13th 14th is handed to you for Christmas (we literally call it "THE 13th"), the last 14th is kept for you by the company, until you cease your employment relationship with them. Then they must give you what they accumulated, which has always been your money in the first place (we familiarly call that sum "the liquidation").

So, even if unwilling, when employed you have to submit to a "forced saving". The companies say they do it to help the employees to keep some savings aside (both on a yearly basis and for the final treatment). Actually, as in the end they'll only grant you the nominal legal basic interests, which are rather low, all the extra they manage to earn by investing YOUR money they keep in their hands, so....

Anyway, I'm surprised to know that pension treatments are optional in England too. Here, the law imposes to EVERY employer to contribute pension funding for their employees. Even if you hire some immigrate to do your housecleaning, you have to pay pension contributions or him, or you break the law...

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 15:24:15
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
You have a mortgage of 140k on capital of 10k?

yes

that was our choice, we could have put down less or more

most mortgages ask for some kind of cash penalty if you don't put down 10% deposit, ours didn't

one of my cowies bought his house and had to take out a bank loan to provide the deposit, that's a horrible situation, now he has two loans to pay back

Funko
03-03-2005, 15:31:36
A lot of places do 5% deposit for new buyers.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:39:19
Yeah, with the current prices of houses it is quite common to see 5%...and the multiples of annual income they are now giving are scary (a colleague of mine was offered up to 6.2x :eek: ). If interest rates ever go up to 80's levels, a lot of people are well and truly screwed...

Asher
03-03-2005, 15:40:29
Do they not have fixed-rate mortgages in the old world?

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:41:59
They do, but a lot of people have gambled due to the currently very low interest rates...could be very unwise...

Gary
03-03-2005, 15:43:00
Congrats again

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:44:38
Thankyou for all the congrats...I'm collecting them :D

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:46:56
Originally posted by Funko
A lot of places do 5% deposit for new buyers.

Usually not below 20 % here. I thought 10-20 % was the rule for the UK, too.

No wonder you develop real estate bubbles all the time. :D

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 15:50:08
no first time-buyer could afford a 20% deposit here, house prices are astronomical

i think the deposit was the biggest reason it took me so long to think about buying

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:50:48
Originally posted by Asher
Do they not have fixed-rate mortgages in the old world?

Well, not precisely.

My mortgage is based on a home savings and loan contract, with 3 years 3.5 % on 153,88 % of the actual principal, offset by 1 % interest on 53.88 % of the principal, a 10 year phase of fixed 4.25 % interest, and a 15 year phase of an interest rate determined by euribor average of past quarter rounded by 25 basis points + 150 basis points, but only within a band of 4-6 %.

I wish we had the new world's sophistication in developing more complex mortgage products.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:51:03
Well at the moment the property market is in a pretty precarious position so I am holding back on buying for a short while...

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:52:06
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
no first time-buyer could afford a 20% deposit here, house prices are astronomical

i think the deposit was the biggest reason it took me so long to think about buying

I put down about 42000 (~26 %)

Asher
03-03-2005, 15:56:38
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
Well, not precisely.

My mortgage is based on a home savings and loan contract, with 3 years 3.5 % on 153,88 % of the actual principal, offset by 1 % interest on 53.88 % of the principal, a 10 year phase of fixed 4.25 % interest, and a 15 year phase of an interest rate determined by euribor average of past quarter rounded by 25 basis points + 150 basis points, but only within a band of 4-6 %.

I wish we had the new world's sophistication in developing more complex mortgage products.
You guys will get there, eventually. Just keep trying.

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 15:58:36
Eurobore?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 15:58:43
We do. We'll keep trying.

Spartak
03-03-2005, 15:59:46
Did you forget something? :hmm:

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:00:41
Ouroboros

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:02:00
Originally posted by Dyl Ulenspiegel
I put down about 42000 (~26 %)

How do you save 42000 when paying rent?

Spartak
03-03-2005, 16:03:41
Is he rich?

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:04:13
Not any more.

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 16:04:32
Originally posted by MoSe
Here, the law imposes to EVERY employer to contribute pension funding for their employees. Even if you hire some immigrate to do your housecleaning, you have to pay pension contributions or him, or you break the law... [/B]

same here.... but the law is violated systematically. im a victim of that too

but i found myself a lawyer and we'll sue the company for 5 years of regular work but no benefits given. that will make me a nice sum i hope.

Spartak
03-03-2005, 16:04:38
Bah!

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:07:35
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
i went from having no savings to about 10k over about 3-4 years.

I went to 20k in less than 3.
Then thanks to gambling I got back where I started (I "lent" some to a needing friend too) :cute:

All the savings I have aside, it's money I got "in advance" from my family. The one I earned myself, I spent it all in pleasure :D

But Dyl, being a succesful lawyer, would sure have loads of income he doesn't know what to do with, and thus he saves it for lacking of better ideas

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 16:08:02
Originally posted by Funko
How do you save 42000 when paying rent?

I only paid rent for rather small and shared appartments. And rode the stock market bubble.

"Not any more."

Well, I would have another down payment together. It's a matter of spending discipline, as my income isn't that great either.

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:10:21
I have no spending discipline. :)

Spartak
03-03-2005, 16:11:43
Do you have a spending disciple?

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:12:24
Did you see that my wine costs have increased a lot recently?

Spartak
03-03-2005, 16:13:42
Yeah. I just assumed you had been ripped off by Bossman.

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 16:13:48
decadence is fun, but so is being able to afford to have someone wipe your ass when you're 75

Spartak
03-03-2005, 16:14:21
:eek:

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:14:44
I can't even afford someone to do that now. :(

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 16:17:21
Originally posted by Funko
I have no spending discipline. :)

Has advantages, too... :D :beer:

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:20:32
Automatically transferring money out to savings when you get paid every month is the way forward.

If only I could make sure that I didn't just spend the savings buying stuff like new computers. ;)

jsorense
03-03-2005, 16:25:08
Cool news PH. Don't spend it all in one place. ;) :beer:

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 16:31:21
PH now it's the perfect time to use all that happiness and confidence steaming from your professional success to get laid.

You'll say
hey baby you wanna hook up with permanent position, with 4k payrise excluding bonus (which I now get) and overtime and full priveleges (pension, dental care, share options, etc).

:beer:

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:32:24
Get a luxury penthouse, you'll find you can get yourself a girlfriend almost instantly.

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:33:37
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
decadence is fun, but so is being able to afford to have someone wipe your ass when you're 75

I'll manage to spend and enjoy all my money and savings by when I'm 50.
Without any money left, I won't survive, and I won't have to worry for later.

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:35:34
Originally posted by Funko
Get a luxury penthouse, you'll find you can get yourself a girlfriend almost instantly.

you found your gf on Penthouse???

any reference to actual people is totally unintended, for pun's sake!!!!
:nervous:

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:37:07
I'll miss MoSe.

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 16:37:28
Why what's going to happen to him?

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:37:45
I think he's going to get kicked to death.

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 16:38:37
:lol:

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:38:38
not in the face, please, not in the face!

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 16:39:03
But that would mean...your gf...posts here?!?!

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:39:26
Originally posted by MoSe
not in the face, please, not in the face!

You're lucky, it won't be your face.

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 16:39:54
not the ding ding!

King_Ghidra
03-03-2005, 16:40:14
with a face like Mose's i'm not sure that's lucky

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 16:42:27
Originally posted by MoSe
you found your gf on Penthouse???

any reference to actual people is totally unintended, for pun's sake!!!!
:nervous:

:lol:

Well I have certainly been a lot more confident for the past while...I managed to deal with the anxiety problems with the antidepressants and following that the upturn in my life. Now it is just breaking the habit of not really approaching women like 'that'.

...I did get a Valentines card though :cute:

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:42:51
[to KG]
grrrr, just wait till the compromising material stored in my safe-deposit box gets released to the press after I'm gone...

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:44:43
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
:lol:

Well I have certainly been a lot more confident for the past while...I managed to deal with the anxiety problems with the antidepressants and following that the upturn in my life. Now it is just breaking the habit of not really approaching women like 'that'.

...I did get a Valentines card though :cute:

I think women like 'that' are exactly the ones you should approach.

:nervous:

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 16:45:30
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
...I did get a Valentines card though :cute: they fuck bad, one time i did a card with greetings from texel and i hurt my german helmet.

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:46:09
From Texel? So it was from Mr Bas?

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 16:47:32
isn't he from terschelling?

Tizzy
03-03-2005, 16:48:14
Originally posted by paiktis22
not the ding ding!

That's the one

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:49:06
only one ding?

Funko
03-03-2005, 16:50:14
I think that's a Dutch joke but I don't get it.

Pretty sure it's Texel. He brought me a bottle of some Dutch spirit that was pink that was from there.

Tizzy
03-03-2005, 16:52:26
One ding, and then one DING

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:52:31
pink spirit?
I'd say Bas' place is rather greeny

MoSe
03-03-2005, 16:53:27
the tolls of the dying dings

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 16:56:00
isn't this PH longest thread evah?

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 17:06:43
Yep, back from the dead (and with good reason too :D)

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 17:07:52
now go fuck a goat

MOBIUS
03-03-2005, 17:08:43
Originally posted by miester gandertak
they fuck bad, one time i did a card with greetings from texel and i hurt my german helmet.

Texel?

Isn't that a Dutch breed of sheep?:cute:

Provost Harrison
03-03-2005, 17:09:55
Ewww, all these grossly obese avatars whilst I am trying to eat my tea...not good :(

Oh mrG, goats are soooo passe!

Alligator is the new goat...

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:15:36
Originally posted by MOBIUS
Texel?

Isn't that a Dutch breed of sheep?:cute:

Ah, the Welsh poster, obviously a sheep expert.

Lazarus and the Gimp
03-03-2005, 17:15:58
Originally posted by Funko
Wish I had bonuses like pension and shit.

Get one immediately, you dozy bugger. You're pushing 30.

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:16:33
Yeah, I'm going to go and sort it out next week.

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 17:18:37
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Ewww, all these grossly obese avatars i once drank beer with a fat guy :p

Lazarus and the Gimp
03-03-2005, 17:19:04
Average cost of raising a child to the age of 5- 50,000, out of net earnings.

Don't I just know it.

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:19:59
Originally posted by Funko
Yeah, I'm going to go and sort it out next week.

And no-one search for the previous times I've said that on here to make me look bad. You bastards.

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 17:21:40
fuck it funko, take a beer and enjoy life.

zmama
03-03-2005, 17:21:41
I have seen that before...too lazy to look for it

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:24:10
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Average cost of raising a child to the age of 5- 50,000, out of net earnings.

Don't I just know it.

I don't understand that figure. When the Average wage is somewhere around 20,000 a year gross and a lot of people are on a lot less and still have more than one kid simultaneously.

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:25:44
Originally posted by zmama
I have seen that before...too lazy to look for it

I know it's totally ridiculous but I don't feel grown up enough to have stuff like pensions.

zmama
03-03-2005, 17:26:17
We just don't feed em and let em run nekkid

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 17:28:32
a thing about raising kids is that it's ok if the money are a bit less but the thing is they have to be certain meaning you have to be as sure as possible you get them every month. i think

Drekkus
03-03-2005, 17:31:32
What???

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 17:31:56
I think I was perfectly clear!!!

Funko
03-03-2005, 17:32:32
He means that you need a secure regular income.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 17:32:35
Greek philosophy.

paiktis22
03-03-2005, 17:32:53
With more words.

Dyl Ulenspiegel
03-03-2005, 17:33:29
He means that you need a secure regular child.

zmama
03-03-2005, 17:34:10
Well then, I'm in trouble

Lazarus and the Gimp
03-03-2005, 17:35:34
Originally posted by Funko
I don't understand that figure. When the Average wage is somewhere around 20,000 a year gross and a lot of people are on a lot less and still have more than one kid simultaneously.

The mother's loss of earnings on maternity leave and costs of childcare are a large chunk. If the mother wasn't working beforehand, the cost falls.

Then again, I'm paying 600 a month on childcare. Weep for me.

Drekkus
03-03-2005, 17:46:39
600 pound??? :eek: fucking hell. I weep for you indeed. My god. Your employer nor the government chip in?

Lazarus and the Gimp
03-03-2005, 17:49:26
The equivalent childcare in Prague is 6.00 per week, apparently.

Drekkus
03-03-2005, 17:50:19
We're considering a few options now, and if we bring her to a childcare centre, the costs will be 750 a month for three days a week. Both mine and the g/f's employer both pay 1/6, so that's a 1/3. Then the governemt pays a bit, according to your income, in our case about 13%. So we'll be paying about 435 a month, which is half of what you pay.

miester gandertak
03-03-2005, 17:50:50
Originally posted by Drekkus
600 pound??? :eek: fucking hell. I weep for you indeed. My god. Your employer nor the government chip in? Drekkus, maurice pays 750 euros.

Drekkus
03-03-2005, 17:52:45
See my calculation, mrG. Unless he brings his child 5 days a week to a centre with golden plates, that 750 euro is the bruto figure.

Spartak
03-03-2005, 18:38:50
bruto.

Mrs Spartak is a fully qualified interpreter. If we didn't have kids she would undoubtedly earn more than I do.

Funko
04-03-2005, 00:10:08
Originally posted by Funko
And no-one search for the previous times I've said that on here to make me look bad. You bastards.

BTW last time it came up I did totally sort it out other than actually signing up for the pension. I sorted loads of other stuff out though.

Provost Harrison
04-03-2005, 05:33:09
Originally posted by Drekkus
See my calculation, mrG. Unless he brings his child 5 days a week to a centre with golden plates, that 750 euro is the bruto figure.

En Anglais?

Dyl Ulenspiegel
04-03-2005, 08:12:29
gross

Drekkus
04-03-2005, 12:17:51
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
En Anglais? Gross, comme toi. :p

Darkstar
04-03-2005, 23:13:19
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
:beer:

Permanent position, with 4k payrise excluding bonus (which I now get) and overtime and full priveleges (pension, dental care, share options, etc).

Woohoo!


:beer: Congrats! :beer: