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Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 11:42:52
Rodney Marsh is sacked for saying:

David Beckham had turned down a 10m contract to sign for Newcastle because he could not possibly go there after what the Toon Army did to Thailand.

:lol:

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,1398658,00.html

Of course the BBC doesn't have the joke.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4208135.stm

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 11:45:14
I think it's terrible he's been sacked. The joke's in bad taste but fuck it. Grow some balls sky.

King_Ghidra
26-01-2005, 11:49:09
yep tasteless, but in the context, hardly offensive - smacks of knee-jerkism

sad, it's not as though rodney marsh is a fucking public servant or something

miester gandertak
26-01-2005, 11:49:24
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Grow some balls you might need that trick after the meeting

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 11:50:40
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
yep tasteless, but in the context, hardly offensive - smacks of knee-jerkism

sad, it's not as though rodney marsh is a fucking public servant or something

Yeah, totally. And he's always sailed a bit close to the wind with his jokes, it's his gimmick.

Sky's loss I think.

*End Is Forever*
26-01-2005, 11:52:28
At the risk of PHding, the joke's on Beckham, not the Tsunami. Stupid Sky.

MOBIUS
26-01-2005, 11:54:30
It kind of reminds me of the old Tunes advert:

"Return to Dottingham please"

Provost Harrison
26-01-2005, 12:08:34
Absolutely, it is not in poor taste because it doesn't mock the tragedy of the tsunami - however it does mock the intellect of David Beckham which, lets face it, is a national pastime :D

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 12:12:10
That's an even better point.

Gary
26-01-2005, 12:19:34
Tsk ! They'll be moaning at princes in nazi uniforms next.

King_Ghidra
26-01-2005, 12:33:35
now now, don't be facetious, that is quite different

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 12:34:27
I thought that was a fuss about nothing too. Although much worse than this.

King_Ghidra
26-01-2005, 12:37:19
watching the programs commemorating the 60th anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz, belsen and others this week was pretty sobering

Funkodrom
26-01-2005, 12:39:52
People always focus on the bad stuff. What about things like autobahns and rocketry?

King_Ghidra
26-01-2005, 12:47:55
you're fired

Gary
26-01-2005, 13:02:53
... and bahnned

Venom
26-01-2005, 13:11:24
Hitler also put that mustache forever out of style. He should be thanked for that.

MoSe
26-01-2005, 13:12:02
Originally posted by Gary
... and bahnned and you'll be V2ed! :groan:

fp
26-01-2005, 17:47:12
He's a total cockmuncher so I'm glad he's been sacked. Kind of silly for him to lose it over this, though. A simple slap on the wrist and a warning that he pushed things too far would have been more appropriate IMHO.

It's a funny joke, and harmless, but he must have known that saying it on national television would get him in trouble.

Drekkus
26-01-2005, 19:13:12
While walking to and from the supermarket I recycled the toon army thing a few times, and I think it's actually pretty funny. If I understand it correctly.

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:17:25
Originally posted by Venom
Hitler also put that mustache forever out of style. He should be thanked for that. That is VERY true, though when I walked into Kaiserslautern-Erfenbach post office 20 years ago there was a guy with exactly that classic moustache. You see I still remember it, so it's very special.

Drekkus
26-01-2005, 19:18:39
That and the name Adolph.

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:19:53
The gay french version of Adolf.

miester gandertak
26-01-2005, 19:20:20
http://www.theodora.com/maps/new/germany.gif

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:21:32
Where is Kaiserslautern on that map?

miester gandertak
26-01-2005, 19:23:45
does not exist you silly

Kaiserslautern harr harr harr

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:25:49
Still you can get Kaiserslautern license plates!

http://www.kfz-wunschkennzeichen.de/cgi-bin/Zul_Stelle.pl?07312BB

Venom
26-01-2005, 19:27:08
Originally posted by Vincent
That is VERY true, though when I walked into Kaiserslautern-Erfenbach post office 20 years ago there was a guy with exactly that classic moustache. You see I still remember it, so it's very special.

Maybe that was ol' Adolf?

zmama
26-01-2005, 19:27:56
Originally posted by Vincent
Where is Kaiserslautern on that map?

Belgium

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:40:46
Originally posted by Venom
Maybe that was ol' Adolf? Serves him right living in that shithole

Vincent
26-01-2005, 19:43:21
http://www.chrma.hqusareur.army.mil/global/images/map_germany_cpac.gif

Much more realistic than that funny fantasy map

sleeping_satsuma
26-01-2005, 20:33:59
It seems they fire anyone off tv these days if they so much as mention something that might offend someone perhaps maybe

still, its not as bad as firing Angus Deayton for snorting coke off a whore's backside, on his own time. That was truly the pettiest thing i've ever heard of.

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-01-2005, 20:38:48
It's not up to "Blue Peter" standards.

Chris Trace- Shagged a Norwegian lady. Sacked.
Michael Sundin- Gay. Caught HIV. Sacked.
Janet Ellis- Became pregnant out of wedlock. Sacked.

Beta1
26-01-2005, 20:43:46
whatsisname bacon - caught shoving coke up his nose. sacked
Peter Duncan - prat. forced to make do things kids thought would kil him for several years.

Vincent
26-01-2005, 21:19:57
Jane O'Brian - ate celery in a greek orthodox church. sacked

sleeping_satsuma
26-01-2005, 21:22:19
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
It's not up to "Blue Peter" standards.

Chris Trace- Shagged a Norwegian lady. Sacked.
Michael Sundin- Gay. Caught HIV. Sacked.
Janet Ellis- Became pregnant out of wedlock. Sacked.

can you put some timeframes on the first two for me(I'm not as old as you!)? I know Ellis, but was she seriously sacked? I thought she left to have a baby.

Vincent
26-01-2005, 21:23:02
sacked

sleeping_satsuma
26-01-2005, 21:24:32
Originally posted by Beta1
whatsisname bacon - caught shoving coke up his nose. sacked
Peter Duncan - prat. forced to make do things kids thought would kil him for several years.

I can understand bacon getting sacked- its not an example for kids is it?
I like Peter Duncan (wasnt it called Duncan Dares?) for two reasons: he was in FLASH Gordon, and he now has a really funny travel prog where he hauls his family round the world, and his kids are really disinterested lol

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-01-2005, 21:33:08
Originally posted by sleeping_satsuma
can you put some timeframes on the first two for me(I'm not as old as you!)? I know Ellis, but was she seriously sacked? I thought she left to have a baby.

Chris Trace was the first presenter- sacked in 1967. Michael Sundin was on it for less than a year in the early 80's, and has been written out of the "official" histories.

sleeping_satsuma
26-01-2005, 21:44:09
why would someone get fired for shagging a norwegian?

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-01-2005, 22:08:13
Because they were not lawfully married. It was the first BP trip abroad, and the change of scenery went to his head.

notyoueither
27-01-2005, 06:38:54
Originally posted by Drekkus
While walking to and from the supermarket I recycled the toon army thing a few times, and I think it's actually pretty funny. If I understand it correctly.

I don't understand it. Could you explain it to me?

Drekkus
27-01-2005, 09:12:52
OGP: The Newcastle supporters are called The Toon Army (I think). With those crazy accents in England you could say that sounds like Tsun ami.

notyoueither
27-01-2005, 09:16:03
I thought it might be something linked to their nickname. But why would they be the toon army? Do they have the hots for Jessica rabbit?

Drekkus
27-01-2005, 09:19:31
The brits could probably tell you that, I have no idea.

miester gandertak
27-01-2005, 09:19:32
or de Geert & Toon army.
Roosendaalse joke

Drekkus
27-01-2005, 09:20:10
who are that?

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 09:24:53
Originally posted by sleeping_satsuma
It seems they fire anyone off tv these days if they so much as mention something that might offend someone perhaps maybe

still, its not as bad as firing Angus Deayton for snorting coke off a whore's backside, on his own time. That was truly the pettiest thing i've ever heard of.

Actually, whilst I agree that what he does in his spare time shouldn't affect his job, in that case I disagree.

After seeing that episode of Have I Got News for You after the story came out when Ian Hislop and Paul Merton absolutely crucified him I don't see how he could have carried on in a job which, as satire, is in a large part making comedy out of the naughty shit famous people do.

How can you have any credibility tearing into Jeffrey Archer for paying a prostitute when you've been caught not paying one!

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 09:25:41
I thought that was just how they pronounced town in Newcastle. Have no idea really.

miester gandertak
27-01-2005, 09:26:33
Originally posted by Drekkus
who are that? 2 homofielen op de stok, was in de tijd een echt scheldwoord. Neij gij vuile geert.... zegde gij wa Toon

Drekkus
27-01-2005, 11:35:52
Geert als scheldwoord ken ik wel, maar Toon???

Rodgers
27-01-2005, 11:57:32
I'm surprised it wasnt Ron Atkinson for this one.

BTW - he got caught making more daft racist coments the other day at some dinner he was speaking at. Anyone see that embarassing programme where he tried to learn about racism and why it was offensive?

Drekkus
27-01-2005, 11:58:40
Hey Rodgers, long time no see! Coming to London this saturdat by any chance?

Funkodrom
27-01-2005, 12:01:10
Originally posted by Rodgers
I'm surprised it wasnt Ron Atkinson for this one.

BTW - he got caught making more daft racist coments the other day at some dinner he was speaking at. Anyone see that embarassing programme where he tried to learn about racism and why it was offensive?

Yeah. He didn't have a clue did he.

Venom
27-01-2005, 13:11:50
Is it racism if you really don't understand it?

King_Ghidra
27-01-2005, 13:22:06
it's racism if you actively discriminate on a racial basis

if you're ignorant of what racism is and you don't discriminate against anyone, then fine, but it's the lucky idiot that manages to do that

considering ron picked desailly out as a lazy fucking nigger it seems he doesn't fall into that category

Provost Harrison
27-01-2005, 13:23:13
A man with a high fuckwit quotient?

Venom
27-01-2005, 13:26:33
Maybe nigger means something else in Ronglish. Like fatass, old bastard, or cracker?

sleeping_satsuma
27-01-2005, 20:16:25
maybe he isnt racist, maybe Desailly actually is a lazy fucking nigger

Funkodrom
28-01-2005, 09:15:32
It could be argued that Desailly was lazy in that game, and he does have dark brown coloured skin. I have no information on his sex life at the time.

However even if we ignore the use of the word nigger, which is a derogatory racial slur in itself, the problem is that Ron's comment links the skin colour with the laziness - black people being lazy has been a widespread racist belief - and that statement is displaying a kind of ingrained racism.

On the show when he went to the US he went to an museum in the US about the history of racism against African Americans. The Curator there was very patient, explaining why things were offensive, and how subtle some things could be but Ron just didn't get it.

Venom
28-01-2005, 13:20:39
In Rongland, there is no racism. Everyone hates everyone else with no thought to their skin color.

Funkodrom
28-01-2005, 13:23:30
If he'd said he was easy oasy no-one would have minded.