View Full Version : Second thoughts about second hand

25-01-2005, 14:24:07
I arranged to buy a little mobile phone to replace my own from ads. It's second hand. But now I'm thinking what if the previous user had some unrepairable disease like hypatitis b'. Is that hypohondriak thinking? I should put it in the washing machine.

25-01-2005, 14:38:31
I'm getting a little bit crazy because of friend of a friend of a friend who died of hypatitis b recently... oh in england no less where he was transfered to get a replacement of liver. th3e greek doctors probably didnt want him to die on their feet so they send him away. he only managed to see his 40 days old daughter only once. really heartbreaking.

25-01-2005, 14:39:57
scary thread

25-01-2005, 14:41:47
yes i agree disregarding it

25-01-2005, 14:43:22
Is a Hypohond a really hyper dog?

I'd rather worry about the quality of the phone then the potential disease it has.

25-01-2005, 14:50:41
Unless that phone is covered in fresh blood or other fresh bodily fluids, ain't likely you'd catch Hep B

25-01-2005, 15:36:13
Yeah, my understanding is that the nasty bugs don't last long on a dry surface. If you're that concerned you can always use a telephone spray.

25-01-2005, 20:08:45
Hepatitis B?

I think you mean C. B is nasty but not usually fatal and you can also be immunized against it. C is always fatal, my father is dying from it now although the disease is a very slow progresser.

25-01-2005, 20:20:22
How about cleaning the phone? or wearing a gasmaske?

miester gandertak
25-01-2005, 20:22:05
i'm wearing boots of escaping
i'm wearing boots of escaping

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-01-2005, 20:22:14
I'm very sorry to hear that, but I thought there were treatments for it.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-01-2005, 20:22:42
To Kitty, not MG.

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-01-2005, 20:30:53
A quick Google reveals that the treatments are not cures.

25-01-2005, 20:47:07
Yeah but the treatments don't always work and there are many different serotypes.

Hep C is a very big problem in the US and Europe, but gets very little coverage compared to things like AIDS.

IN the late 60s and early 70s there was a 1 in 7 chance of contracting Hep C if you received a blood transfusion. The disease can stay dormant for 20-30 years, in which time you can infect others sexually (low rate) or through blood exposure (iirc the highest contractability rate from blood contact of all diseases). Then the disease goes active and by the time you realize you are sick your liver is half dead.

My father contracted it when he avoided vietnam. He was lucky enough to get hit by a caddie while on his motercycle 3 weeks before he was supposed to be sent off. Spent a year in the hospital, has aluminum instead of bone and a surgical steel ankle.

I think he said he had nearly 30 blood transfusions total over that year betweent he accedent and operations. He contracted Hep A and B while int he hospital, but they didn't know what C was at the time.

Treatments have not worked for him because he apparently has 4 different serotypes (varieties of the disease) and 2 are low treatment sucess. He is in end stage liver failure, has esophageal varacies, has developed diabetis from the liver problems, and is extremeely enchepalopathic fromt he ammonia levels in his blood.

When we saw him over christmas he did fine for the first few days, then boxing day he dropped into a coma and they found that he has developed a shunt where his body has grown extra veins to avoid the blockage at his liver. So he is gettig even less detox, and they are afraid to operate because it could burst his varacies which have an 80% fatality rate (imagine a huge vein bursting deep in your throat).

So, thats the fun of Hep C!

25-01-2005, 20:53:59
B can be nasty, but usually only when combined with D?

OTOH, I think B has the highest liver cancer incidence.

25-01-2005, 21:04:28
Yeah, atm B has the highest rate of hepatocarcenoma, but because of the rising epedemic of C it is projected to be overtaken in the next 10 years.

The good thing is that in another 30 years Hep C will be almost unheard of in the first world since it is so easy to screen against. If you didn't catch it before 1987 or so and aren't exposed to blood infections, you are pretty safe.

25-01-2005, 21:40:57
general conclusion - unless the phones covered in fresh blood and you shove it up your arse you aint going to get hepatitis from it.

Sorry to hear about your dad kitty.

25-01-2005, 21:42:51
Thanks for the sympathy, but honestly I am OK with it. It is a nasty slow progression so this all started 9 years ago. We have had time to come to grips with it.

25-01-2005, 22:43:27
:( thats sad. I suppose looking at it philosophically, if he had gone to Vietnam you may never have known him at all or maybe even been born? Life is a funny old game. Also I guess the fact you know he is dying gives you the chance to appreciate him more and create memories/ record things/ say goodbye in a way a lot of people never get the opportunity to do. Doesnt make it any less painful for you tho :hug:

25-01-2005, 22:47:20
Hmm..Pam Anderson has Hep C. She says she caught it from Tommy Lee on a tattoo needle they shared.

26-01-2005, 04:13:00
Sorry to hear about your father's condition, Kitty.

26-01-2005, 15:14:30
Me too.

And I'm not sure if the guy I talked about has the b type. Maybe it was C. I only heard he had hepatitis that he probably contracted in school (he was a teacher) from children of people from far away lands. this has become a problem. Diseases that have long gone are reappearing because of the immigration.
Or more correctly because of the slowness of the system to prepare for these incidents. For example the min. of order ordered the docs to report to the police any non citizen which came to a hospital without healthcare. To their honour thr docs invoked the hypocratis oath and refused to obey the order. If they had then people would not go to the hospital and diseases which are dangerous would go unnoticed.

26-01-2005, 15:16:35
You know you're going to lick the phone. You should be concerned about all kinds of diseases.

26-01-2005, 15:17:16
Why would I lick the phone?

26-01-2005, 15:18:14
Who doesn't lick their phone?

26-01-2005, 15:18:28
You tell us

26-01-2005, 15:21:51
I will think about it and by the end of the day I'll reply.

26-01-2005, 15:38:42
Originally posted by Vincent
You tell us

Fucking losers. That's who.