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12-01-2005, 05:39:18
This seems to be a question for the help desk type gurus here.

My problem is that my mouse suddenly and without any warning decided to go beserk....Jumping all over the screen and triggering god knows what..After a fairly rapid shutdown, and a full AVG scan there is no real indication of any nasty's.
AdAware and Spybot showed 8 of the usual spyware types which were removed.

The only unusual occurence was an untitled email from an alphabet @ yahoo which as usual went straight to the trash bin unopened, via ZA, AVG, and Firefox. But this was some time prior the the rodent revolt..

I have now replaced the rodent, uninstalled and reinstalled the driver, and installed Kerio.
However even the new mouse has a tendency to vanish to the nearest screen edge, or occasionally jump a small distance..

Is there some setting or trick I've overlooked.. :tizzy:

System is Asus P4PE 2.4 celeron, 1Gig ram, adequate HDD, leadtech 280 le, with 2 x 17" viewsonics (1 FS, 1 LCD), 2k Pro, all on cable. Which was working perfectly up until....:cry:

12-01-2005, 12:40:24
Could it be a dodgy connection ? Have you checked the pins ? The solder joints inside ?

12-01-2005, 14:02:51
What brand mouse? Optical? Did you try a different surface?

12-01-2005, 14:21:20
Gary.. I changed the mouse... Haven't tried to change the socket on the MB

2000 Pro SP4
Both stock standard generic 2 button ps2.

I have wracked what little brain I have left trying to figure out what sequence of events could have this residual effect

12-01-2005, 14:32:37
This may sound silly, but is your mouse pad in bad shape? Try a brand new one, they're very cheap.

I mean with the first mouse going bad...they just wear out, the ball gets out of whack...but if the new one is bad, too.

You could check the settings in Control panel and adjust the mouse sensitivity.
Ummm I dunno what else..

12-01-2005, 14:58:08
Done that, and increased the buffer size, just in case of overflow.

The first one didn't just go bad, It also seemed to activate any shortcut or link it touched , as if clicked, during it's mayhem.
similar to a hijacked web link that opens window after window.

Have to wonder if this is some new form of hack..

12-01-2005, 15:05:44
Could be...did you look throught the running processes?

12-01-2005, 19:05:29
You could still have a bent pin / loose wire / whatever.

That or running a WIN 3.1 mouse drive in XP doesn't bode well ;)

PS hmmm... what sort of hack randomly shifts the mouse ? I'd be more inclined to think it was a fault somewhere.

Do you have just the one mouse port ? In ye olden days of serial mice one could help pin-point the problem area by moving stuff around. Too much to expect it's a USB mouse I suppose.

12-01-2005, 19:33:02
He said Win 2000...he said ps2 mouse

12-01-2005, 19:50:16
Ah, you can't check that while you're editing your post ;)

"Knew" that would happen though.

12-01-2005, 20:10:06
But he posted that 5 hours before you posted

12-01-2005, 21:05:46
Surely you don't expect me to remember details

12-01-2005, 21:25:17
No, silly me

13-01-2005, 01:37:15
Information at last..
After cogitating and discussions here till 2.00 am, went to bed and let the mind work freely..

On awakening this afternoon, decided to check "ALL" the logs for that period....

AVG, with latest update... zilch

Application log.. A whole stack of nview errors.

System log.. Many groups of, Event log stopped. Uniprocessor free. event log starteds.

AdAware...9 Alexa objects.

Spybot...BINGO.. One Alexa. ..... ""One BDE Projecter.. One DSO Exploit.. ""

Problem now becomes .. Has Spybot got rid of them totally, or are they residuals, reinfecting on each boot, and have they damaged anything else..
Using yahoo search shows heaps of sites claiming to give removal instructions.... All very dodgy looking.

Any thoughts

13-01-2005, 03:56:11
Yeah these guys...they're good and true and rightous and all that :)

They donate their time and brains to help ferret out this stuff


13-01-2005, 23:59:09
Thanks for that. . . No more nasties..
Now all I have to do is tame the mouse. :D:

14-01-2005, 00:54:31
Cheese for a good mouse, the cat for a bad one. That'll get it toeing the line :D

14-01-2005, 23:11:10
Originally posted by chagarra
Done that, and increased the buffer size, just in case of overflow.

The first one didn't just go bad, It also seemed to activate any shortcut or link it touched , as if clicked, during it's mayhem.
similar to a hijacked web link that opens window after window.

Have to wonder if this is some new form of hack..

You didn't set any accessibility options did you? Either in your mouse driver or in the accessibility section? That is often the culprit.

Also, on jumpy mouse, I've noticed that when my AV decides to go out and check for the latest updates, it causes my mouse to jump around when moved. That's because the AV is stealing too many processor cycles, the bastards. When the AV stops beating on the CPU, the mouse stops jumping about when moved. That, you can stop by changing AVs or just disconnecting from the net, or waiting on the bastard AV to finish up. Herpes infested fuck face that it is.

20-01-2005, 23:55:58
Have you got the right drivers loaded for your mouse? That jumping around thing can happen if your system doesn't have the right driver loaded, or if you're just using the generic driver.

21-01-2005, 03:10:51
Did(can) you guys read? He fixed it already

21-01-2005, 08:58:25
Ah but he still claimed to have an untamed mouse :)

Unless, of course, he got that cat.

21-01-2005, 10:10:16
The recalcitrant rodent is still extant...
I am, however learning to live with it.

As for drivers, I have reloaded generic mouse driver for generic mouse.

Regarding other damage, my email agent was completely trashed, I have had to reload SP4 to get the registry repaired, seems it tried to do nasty things there. It apparently bypassed ZAs quarrantine procedure by not having a subject, then tried to shut it down.. And that is all I have confirmed so far.

Hopefully it won't entail a format c, so soon after my last one.

25-01-2005, 19:44:47
that's your problem, you shouldn't be using the generic drivers. Did the mouse come with any drivers? And if not, look on the manufacterers website.

27-01-2005, 02:08:41
Hate to agree with you..... But...... You could be right.

Searched in my cupboard for another mouse, found a new one of the same brand as the original.. Seems, so far to be tame, even wheel is placid.... :D

But then again I just had to replace the blown up CRT monitor... SO..??

27-01-2005, 02:32:18
So the CRT wore out. Doesn't happen often, but it does.
How old was it?

27-01-2005, 08:28:24
Probably droppings from an angry mouse, shorting out the valves.

27-01-2005, 11:17:26
Well the original one is ratshit anyway...

27-01-2005, 16:06:20
Greenscreen ratshit? :p

29-01-2005, 11:13:41
Revenge...... !!!