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Drekkus
11-01-2005, 16:26:23
So at home i have this old laptop, that's good to be shredded. But there's some info on it that I need, like my online tax stuff. But the laptop has no cd writer and no USB connection.

So I need to connect it to my pc via a network cable, but it runs on win 98 (at best). Will my pc with XP recognize the laptop as a plug and play thingy? Or do I have to change all sorts of settings to get a network connection going?

Funkodrom
11-01-2005, 16:29:32
"do I have to change all sorts of settings to get a network connection going"

You have to run the "network connections wizard" on the '98 machine and maybe the equivalent on the XP machine. Should find it.

You might have to do it more than once to make it work for some unknown reason or other.

zmama
11-01-2005, 16:40:48
It should work fine...set it up on the xp machine first. And if you are connecting the two machines directly into each other...you need a crossover ethernet cable (yesthe people at the computer store will know what that is). A regular ethernet cable is fine if you're connecting through your router.

zmama
11-01-2005, 16:45:07
OR 7000 floppy disks :D

Funkodrom
11-01-2005, 16:46:12
1 floppy disk, 7000 times.

Aredhran
11-01-2005, 17:02:42
If you have a firewall on any of the machines, make sure it allows network traffic to the other one...

Gary
11-01-2005, 17:07:40
Yeah right, like you have 10,080,000,000 bytes of data (unzipped) in your tax data files :rolleyes:

Floppies rule :D

Alternatively connect to the internet and download temporarily to your site.

zmama
11-01-2005, 17:38:20
His "site" ???

:lol:

Cumber
12-01-2005, 00:05:47
Gary: it depends on whether we're talking about his tax data or his 'tax data'. ;)

Sir Penguin
12-01-2005, 00:09:47
Originally posted by Funkodrom
1 floppy disk, 7000 times.
Except that will only allow him to move files that are less than 1.44 MB.

SP

zmama
12-01-2005, 01:08:59
nevermind

Sir Penguin
12-01-2005, 02:22:46
:(

SP

zmama
12-01-2005, 04:11:18
:lol:
nah, I just read it wrong and was going to argue with you SP...then I read it again :o

Venom
12-01-2005, 04:27:15
Yeah. Good luck getting 98 to network correctly.

chagarra
12-01-2005, 05:06:20
If it were me, I'd buy a 2.5" USB HDD housing, like this
http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=57&products_id=3901
Remove the HDD from the laptop, plug it into the housing, instant backup....

Gary
12-01-2005, 08:40:54
:lol: Fair point Cumber, I'm obviously too trusting.

Gary
12-01-2005, 08:54:39
Originally posted by zmama
:lol:
nah, I just read it wrong and was going to argue with you SP...then I read it again :o You may argue if you like. While technically true, there are plenty of file splitter progs around that'll effectively allow you to pass larger files using a single floppy ;)

Never miss the chance of a good row, it entertains the natives.

zmama
12-01-2005, 13:59:09
Called spanning not splitting...and would be a stupid thing to do with one floppy - four floppys, perhaps.

And I've had no probs networking 98 with xp...xp does the heavy lifting.

Aredhran
12-01-2005, 16:18:01
I've managed to network a Win98 with a Win95 machine without too much trouble (except finding the correct driver for the NIC on Win95) it's really not that difficult.

Sir Penguin
12-01-2005, 19:10:31
Originally posted by Gary
You may argue if you like. While technically true, there are plenty of file splitter progs around that'll effectively allow you to pass larger files using a single floppy ;)

Never miss the chance of a good row, it entertains the natives.
But they often require that you put the last disk in first so that they know what to do.

SP

Gary
12-01-2005, 19:48:11
That's compression programmes you're thinkiung of. I've got an app somewhere that'll split a file up on your hard disk into whatever size or number of bits you like.

zmama
12-01-2005, 20:08:59
Winzip will do it

Sir Penguin
12-01-2005, 21:56:54
I know, Gary, but cool people don't use those applications.

SP

Deacon
12-01-2005, 23:44:40
Splitting without compression is less CPU-dependent than splitting with compression. With an older processor, skipping compression could save time.

Ethernet will work. Thousands of floppies will work. Removing the drive and adding it to another machine will work. The last option is less of a hassle overall. Internal is my bias, but a USB external enclosure for 2.5" HDDs doesn't require opening the PC case, or buying hardware to adapt the PC's bulkier data and power connectors to the laptop HDD.

If the laptop has a parallel port, then a parallel port ZIP drive is an option, though these drives are slow.

miester gandertak
13-01-2005, 15:22:35
need a crosscable
Ik heb er een paar, beter kom je keertje langs om die spullen over te zetten.
Je hoeft allleen die oude mee te nemen.

Funkodrom
13-01-2005, 15:29:58
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
I know, Gary, but cool people don't use those applications.

SP

If anyone wanted a cool person to see their question they wouldn't post it in technoglow.

Venom
13-01-2005, 16:06:31
Gary tried to talk down to SP in a tech thread. :lol:

Gary
13-01-2005, 16:21:46
:hmm: Oh, I never talk down to anyone. Just state what's what.

Venom
13-01-2005, 16:28:03
That's even funnier! :lol:

Darkstar
14-01-2005, 23:00:11
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
Except that will only allow him to move files that are less than 1.44 MB.

SP

Pardon, but Winzip will SPAN floppies... so he could zip it up and span it across multiple floppies.

Does this laptop have any PCMCIA card slots? You can buy Compact Flash (or SecureDigital or SmartMedia or MemoryStick) to PCMCIA adapters, and that would be much faster and give you more storage space to use for transfering data.

Or, you could just crack the whole thing open, pull out the drive, and plug that into your other machine (even make it pretty by putting it into a USB external mounting case if you want). If you are a super hacker type. Wait. :o Forgot I was talking to a non-initiate. Forget that. ZMama could do it. Ship the whole thing to Zmama and ask her very nicely and politely to do it for you. ;)

zmama
14-01-2005, 23:02:35
Nononono...

he sends me an airplane ticket to Dutchland and I fix it for him at his house :

Darkstar
14-01-2005, 23:03:50
Ah. I see. Travel, Room and Board included. Sounds like a good deal! On site contractual help!

Darkstar
14-01-2005, 23:06:35
Of course, if he has the little laptop expansion slots, he could get a PCMCIA to USB adapter, and some USB external storage, and do that instead.

The ZMama coming over and doing it for him would be the most reliable though. :D

zmama
14-01-2005, 23:11:13
I could fix his network too!

Such a deal

Sir Penguin
14-01-2005, 23:50:21
Originally posted by Darkstar
Pardon, but Winzip will SPAN floppies... so he could zip it up and span it across multiple floppies.
Once again, and in fact I was thinking of WinZip as a specific example, in order to decompress an archive you need the last section so that it knows what coding is being used.

Now, you could span onto one disk, copy the zip file back onto the computer, span the next section, copy that zip file back onto the computer, and so on, then transport the 7000 zip archives one at a time, if you had the hard drive space, but then that's one floppy disk 14000 times.

SP