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The Mad Monk
20-12-2004, 10:00:12
Especially the seven tab "homepage" I have now. :coolgrin:

Asher
20-12-2004, 14:42:07
Freak.

zmama
20-12-2004, 16:20:38
Aaahh Freak out!
Le Freak, C'est Chic
Freak out!

MDA
20-12-2004, 19:42:49
Can my IE favorites be imported?

zmama
20-12-2004, 20:29:24
yup...easy easy. It asks you when you install

MDA
20-12-2004, 21:03:33
Lots of people at work are using it. Especially the ones from IT. Hmm.

zmama
20-12-2004, 21:07:33
Use it...all the cool people do

And Vincent does too

The Mad Monk
21-12-2004, 02:07:23
I especially appreciate that the tabs have indicators to show whether they're loading, and that they do not insist on barging to the top when they're done loading.

zmama
21-12-2004, 02:40:48
What REALLY makes you appreciate firefox is the times you have to use IE instead.

Puke

Sir Penguin
22-12-2004, 06:10:30
I got my roommate using Firefox the other day. I'm going to try to work on my parents, but I don't have much hope.

SP

Asher
22-12-2004, 06:17:37
My dad uses Firefox now, and he's a MS shareholder and refuses to buy AMD.

Sir Penguin
22-12-2004, 08:50:44
My dad seems impressed. He likes the Find Bar and the search keywords. The parents have been using Avant for a while, so they're used to tabs and pop-up blocking, which is helpful. Mom will be the real challenge though, she dislikes change. Things are looking up, at least.

Not so much on the Thunderbird front. Eudora does some stuff that they like, and that I don't think Thunderbird has those things (especially Eudora's built-in file browser part, which they use to virus-scan and browse attachments).

SP

Drekkus
22-12-2004, 16:36:15
Firefox makes my 'Go' button in 'CG forum jump' go under the bar instead of right next to it. I must say that the tab thing is ok, spares you one click to switch. For the rest I don't see what all the fuss is about.

zmama
22-12-2004, 17:35:16
Mine's right next to it...you must have your textsize set differently.

As to not seeing, exactly...you don't see much of the crap you get with IE

Funkodrom
23-12-2004, 10:27:36
Funny.. mine's right next to it today but was below it yesterday and I haven't changed anything!

zmama
23-12-2004, 11:03:42
And mine's below it today! :lol:

Funkodrom
23-12-2004, 11:05:41
:lol:

Darkstar
24-12-2004, 03:58:28
Inconsistant placement of elements in Firefox is a complaint I'm starting to hear a lot from users and developers at work.

Asher
24-12-2004, 05:00:09
Mine's always on the right of the dropdown.

Then again, I'm using Firefox 1.1 nightlies. Gecko (the parsing engine in Firefox) in Firefox 1.0 is actually 8 months old, and there's been tons of additions, enhancements, and bugfixes in them.

Firefox 1.1 is merging in the latest Gecko to Firefox.

zmama
27-12-2004, 17:23:55
More of the fuss

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1738&e=2&u=/zd/20041226/tc_zd/141623

Darkstar
28-12-2004, 08:12:21
According to the post, the exploit was released by Michael Evanchik and Paul from Greyhats Security, to spur Microsoft Corp. to secure Windows and the Internet Explorer browser more quickly. The message from Paul, suggested Windows users switch to the Mozilla project's FireFox browser to improve security.

"Microsoft was able to reproduce the issue and has agreed that the severity is indeed critical. Because the vulnerabilities (3 in total, each based on different technologies) have been known and unpatched for quite some time, we have decided to release the information on this exploit in hopes that in the future Microsoft will work faster towards patching vulnerabilities that we security researchers disclose to them," the posting said.


That was ~extremely~ stupid on their part. They will now be legally liable/culpable for all derivative products of their work. That means, all the viruses and malware and what-not. And Microsoft has the money to see to it that those two get screwed to the wall for it. And I bet they will...

Now, they should have done what previous security dawgs have down... released the exploit purely as a white paper, including the full source code to make the exploit as a demonstration. Then, they'd be safe (at least, under current legal views), when the virus and malware descendants come out. As it is, the FBI or the Secret Service is liable to be knocking on their door...

Drekkus
29-12-2004, 14:50:44
Firefox is starting to irritate me. Buttons move around, it feels (not sure) like it loads slower than IE, and a lot of web services applets don't work. So I have to start up IE to view them.

zmama
29-12-2004, 15:00:13
Did you read what Asher said?

Update Firefox and the button moving should be better.

It loads faster than IE and is much more secure.
As to the webservice applets...yup. But thats the fault of the companies which put up the websites.

I guess it just depends on what your priorities are. I'm dragging the radio station to Firefox while they kick and scream. Too bad, those computers are vital to daily operation and don't need all the crap that IE lets get through.

Drekkus
29-12-2004, 16:11:42
So where should I find this update? The Mozilla update page has a gazillion extensions, plugins and themes, but I can't find firefox 1.1.

zmama
29-12-2004, 18:04:35
I found it but not ready for the public yet...the "nightly" that Asher spoke of is for developers.

Sorry for assuming he was trying to help

Asher
29-12-2004, 23:38:00
1.1 won't be out until March 2004 if they ship it on schedule.

The nightly builds are for testers and developers.

Deacon
30-12-2004, 01:41:02
Hopefully it'll be easier to use future releases of Firefox and Thunderbird together. In Mozilla 1.7.3, if you click a mail or usenet link, Mail & News starts up. It takes work to get the same with Firefox and Thunderbird. At least it's doable...

Sir Penguin
01-01-2005, 18:01:55
Originally posted by Drekkus
Firefox is starting to irritate me. Buttons move around, it feels (not sure) like it loads slower than IE, and a lot of web services applets don't work. So I have to start up IE to view them.
If you mean ActiveX controls, then that's a feature, and the reason that the ieview extension exists. If you mean Java or Flash, then you haven't got them installed properly. They should work in Firefox.

IE does load faster, because it's part of the OS and some of it is already loaded. Firefox takes longer on first execution, but usually loads pages faster.

SP

Drekkus
03-01-2005, 11:27:45
ieview extension should be handy. No idea if java and flash are installed properly. All I know that it works in IE, but not in firefox.

Sir Penguin
03-01-2005, 20:02:05
If they don't work in Firefox, then they're not installed correctly. :)

SP