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Funkodrom
22-09-2004, 13:54:49
http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4038&n=1

LOS ANGELES—Executives at Atlantic Records announced Monday that multi-platinum recording artist Matchbox Twenty, which set sales records in 2000 for its mega-hit release Mad Season, has finally finished watering down tracks on its long-awaited new album Beige.

"Everyone here at Atlantic is thrilled about what's sure to be the biggest-selling, least-rocking record of the year," Atlantic public-relations spokeswoman Janet Cosgrove said. "It's been a long wait, but the incredibly boring results speak for themselves. Beige is bigger and blander than anything Matchbox Twenty has ever done."

Asher
22-09-2004, 14:03:54
Matchbox Twenty is taking a break, everyone doing solo albums.

Everyone knows that!

Funkodrom
22-09-2004, 14:04:51
:lol:

Mr. Bas
22-09-2004, 15:07:53
:lol:

Provost Harrison
25-09-2004, 18:42:19
:lol:

Lazarus and the Gimp
25-09-2004, 19:23:35
Who? I've never heard them.

Provost Harrison
25-09-2004, 19:58:31
Be grateful for your naivete Laz, for I have heard them before and they could comatose an entire army...

Asher
25-09-2004, 20:37:30
They're underrated and overabused.

It's the kind of band that slowly rose to a huge success without anyone noticing, and then certain people became pissed off and slam them for it. It's popular to slam what is undeniably popular, after all.

Matchbox Twenty is rock with catchy riffs, addictive melodies. It's proven itself to be very popular with people who like such music (25M+ records sold for their debut), and it's the bane of music critics who don't understand what music is really about, and blast it even tough the people clearly like it.

Asher
25-09-2004, 20:37:59
They're also virtually no-names in Europe, which is most excellent. Europeans are wankers.

They are huge in North America and Australia.

Provost Harrison
26-09-2004, 16:44:14
I wouldn't like to imagine what that makes Canadians :p

Asher
26-09-2004, 17:31:39
Passive nobodies.

Lazarus and the Gimp
26-09-2004, 17:53:13
We need to get Asher in on LWP. He's into music, he's opinionated to the point of disability, and can string a sentence together. Ideal material.

Funkodrom
27-09-2004, 08:32:38
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
He's into music

Debatable point.

*End Is Forever*
27-09-2004, 12:03:54
Come on, every LWP needs a couple of tracks everyone lays into... like that rock opera track from a while back.

Scabrous Birdseed
27-09-2004, 12:07:35
I liked that one. :o

Asher would never participate in LWP because he's afraid of his reviewing side.

Immortal Wombat
27-09-2004, 12:32:08
I liked that one too :D

Funkodrom
27-09-2004, 12:36:48
Didn't I like it too?

It's normally the *EiF* shit emo track everyone gangs up on. :)

King_Ghidra
27-09-2004, 13:21:20
or the PH ska bollocks one

Asher
27-09-2004, 15:25:44
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I liked that one. :o

Asher would never participate in LWP because he's afraid of his reviewing side.
I have no qualms with my reviewing side, I do it all the time informally. I just don't like writing fancy articles and pretend people care about what I think.

Asher
27-09-2004, 15:27:48
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Debatable point.
:beer:

I play guitar and piano (mostly the former), and listen to music quite a lot.

I'm into music, it just so happens I'm into music that most people here think is shit. :p

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-09-2004, 16:24:26
It isn't an ego parade- just a chance to share music and give feedback on it.

Provost Harrison
27-09-2004, 18:07:46
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
or the PH ska bollocks one

Claws away pussycat, I have only ever posted one ska track :p

Provost Harrison
27-09-2004, 18:11:03
My arse Laz...how many times have you seen "I respect your musical taste but x is just not my cup of tea". It's a complete bitchfight :D

King_Ghidra
27-09-2004, 18:12:10
:D

Immortal Wombat
27-09-2004, 18:15:32
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
My arse Laz...how many times have you seen "I respect your musical taste but x is just not my cup of tea".
Lots of times. Most of my comments run like that anyway.

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-09-2004, 18:56:28
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
My arse Laz...how many times have you seen "I respect your musical taste but x is just not my cup of tea". It's a complete bitchfight :D

Yes, but that's an honest reaction. I have extreme reactions to music, and when I dislike something I tend to hate it viscerally. That's not some artistic posture- it's just how I am. It's also very firmly founded on the sounds emitted, and not about who submitted it or what genre it is. Unless it's Acid Jazz, of course.

Lazarus and the Gimp
27-09-2004, 18:58:27
Speaking of which, I once read an on-line report by someone who was a Glastonbury regular. He mentioned that he'd seen Galliano play there three times, and there'd always been someone shouting "FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF!" throughout their set. I think it might have been me.

King_Ghidra
27-09-2004, 19:50:09
:lol:

Funkodrom
28-09-2004, 08:26:41
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Speaking of which, I once read an on-line report by someone who was a Glastonbury regular. He mentioned that he'd seen Galliano play there three times, and there'd always been someone shouting "FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF!" throughout their set. I think it might have been me.

Why not watch someone else?

King_Ghidra
28-09-2004, 08:34:13
but if enough people turned out to shout fuck off at bands like galliano then maybe they'd get the message and just go away - isn't that what happened at reading festival with 50 cent, daphne and celeste, etc.?

well either way i'm not condoning it or saying it's a good use of time, but effectively the guy is just making a protest against something he doesn't like

Funkodrom
28-09-2004, 08:43:24
Yeah, I know bottling people off and heckling is a lot of fun. If the Galliano fans don't like it they could always kick the crap out of Laz... now being beaten up by Galliano fans, that'd be embarassing.

My point was really, how could you suffer three Galliano gigs even to heckle?

Lazarus and the Gimp
28-09-2004, 16:22:01
To be quite honest, it may have only been two. I'm missing an entire day from the 1994 festival. In 1993 I'd never heard them before, and in 1995 they were sandwiched between two bands I wanted to see.

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 15:35:18
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
Yes, but that's an honest reaction. I have extreme reactions to music, and when I dislike something I tend to hate it viscerally. That's not some artistic posture- it's just how I am. It's also very firmly founded on the sounds emitted, and not about who submitted it or what genre it is. Unless it's Acid Jazz, of course.

I must admit that during the past few years I have been one of the worst offenders for being like this. I was browsing through the history of this place and I have been a right little vicious bitch to various people, I consider myself to be a lot more chilled now. Although mention 'Maroon 5' and I am still likely to go into Tourettes mode :D

Asher
29-09-2004, 15:44:27
Maroon 5 is great.

"The Sun" in particular is awesome.

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 15:49:28
Why doesn't it surprise me that you said that? They are the most insipid piece of shite I have heard in some time...

King_Ghidra
29-09-2004, 16:21:20
lots of things to :lol: at in here today

Asher
29-09-2004, 16:56:05
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Why doesn't it surprise me that you said that? They are the most insipid piece of shite I have heard in some time...
Coming from the guy who worships Bad Religion, that's quite something.

Lazarus and the Gimp
29-09-2004, 17:04:55
What are Maroon 5 like?

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 17:16:04
Utterly ghastly...I can't think of words to really describe them apart from insipid...you'd really have to hear them to understand.

Scabrous Birdseed
29-09-2004, 17:18:55
They're by far not the worst band in the "soft radio-friendly college rock" genre. I liked their last, bossanova-inspired single.

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 17:21:57
Originally posted by Asher
Coming from the guy who worships Bad Religion, that's quite something.

I don't worship anyone :p

Bad Religion may not be your taste but they are massively influential even if you don't. And as for your choices, what will be people's impression of them in 20 years time?

Debaser
29-09-2004, 17:57:24
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
What are Maroon 5 like?

To me their last single sound exactly like Anastasia even though the singer's male. File next to Counting Crows, Matchbox 20, Wheatus etc... or even *shudder* Train. Dawsons Creek/American Pie OST fodder.

Asher
29-09-2004, 18:00:23
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
What are Maroon 5 like?
It's best described as a mix of rock, funk, soul, and R&B. Some influences are heavier than the other in some songs.

Asher
29-09-2004, 18:08:06
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
I don't worship anyone :p

Bad Religion may not be your taste but they are massively influential even if you don't. And as for your choices, what will be people's impression of them in 20 years time?
Here's a question for you: Who the fuck cares what most people will think of them 20 years from now?

If the music is enjoyable now, that's what matters. If it's enjoyable 10 years after it's released, even better.

I still enjoy the Tabitha's Secret/Matchbox Twenty stuff back when they were low-fi folk-rock in 1992.

I don't rate how well I like music based on how "influential" they are, and I'd hope anyone who considers themselves to be a true music fan can see music for what it is.

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 20:32:29
But Maroon 5 are not enjoyable now, nor will they ever be...:p

Influence is a big factor, it demonstrates how much impact they have, how great they are...there is usually a correlation. As I have said, Bad Religion are a great band, I am trying to put it so as not to sound like some kind of acolyte. But there you have it...

Asher
29-09-2004, 20:42:05
Who cares if they're influential if all they influence is more crap?

Music means different things to different people. Looking at popularity and how influencial they are doesn't tell you how good their music is, it tells you how popular it is among easily-influenced musicians.

That said, with MB20 selling as many records as they do, you can probably safely bet they've influenced more bands than you'd like to admit.

Case in point, Maroon 5 are big MB20 fans...they've also shown up at to MB20 shows and vice versa to join in on some songs.

Bad Religion is probably less influencial today than MB20 is to a new generation of musicians, but does that make MB20 superior?

It's your argument, you decide. ;)

Provost Harrison
29-09-2004, 21:11:25
Maroon 5 are big Matchbox 20 fans? That wouldn't surprise me in the slightest...

And Bad Religion are definitely still influencing bands, as are the bands they have influenced :p

Asher
29-09-2004, 23:06:16
Bad Religion was a band that wavered from mediocre to purely terrible.

They were inconsistent and hardly that great of a band.

Likely the only reason you like them is the frontman has a PhD in biology. :p

Lazarus and the Gimp
30-09-2004, 17:29:22
Someone send me some stuff on these bands and I'll settle this in the traditional way.

Debaser
30-09-2004, 17:34:40
You can listen to Matchbox 20 here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000002JWU/qid=1096565562/sr=ka-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-7794930-4364760) and Bad Religion here (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002J11/qid=1096565604/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/104-7794930-4364760?v=glance&s=music).

Asher
30-09-2004, 18:28:56
Low-fi 30 second snippits? That doesn't do anyone any justice.

Asher
30-09-2004, 18:31:16
The corresponding Maroon 5 ones are here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006879E/qid=1096569025/sr=ka-1/ref=pd_ka_1/104-6360517-3662340

Asher
30-09-2004, 18:33:33
You can stream the full version of some Maroon 5 songs if you have Winamp5 (which you should). http://www.winamp.com/music/browse.php?search=yes&filter=M&query=maroon
(the last 2 are the album versions, first 2 are live recordings)

Harder to Breathe : http://www.winamp.com/bin/playlist.pls?streamtype=strmedia&mtype=SA&id=1120385&bandwidth=NSAHBURL

This Love: http://www.winamp.com/bin/playlist.pls?streamtype=strmedia&mtype=SA&id=1130988&bandwidth=NSAHBURL

There's only one MB20 song Winamp has, and it's from the latest album and called "Downfall", and features a Gospel-esque chorus that people have al love/hate thing for:
http://www.winamp.com/bin/playlist.pls?streamtype=strmedia&mtype=SA&id=1131458&bandwidth=NSAHBURL

Mr. Bas
01-10-2004, 11:07:38
If you want to check out some bad religion, go to www.epitaph.com and look for the band. They have about 2 mp3s per album as a free download. I don't think Laz liked the BR songs on LWP, though.

Mr. Bas
01-10-2004, 11:09:17
Oh, and I don't mind Maroon 5. They're quite poppy, but not nearly as boring as Matchbox 20 is.

Provost Harrison
01-10-2004, 12:29:50
"Not being as boring as Matchbox 20" is hardly high accolade now is it? :D They are as dull as dishwater...