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Guynemer
04-03-2004, 18:47:58
http://www.lucasarts.com/press/releases/85.html

LucasArts has decided to stop production on Sam & Max

"After careful evaluation of current market place realities and underlying economic considerations, we've decided that this was not the appropriate time to launch a graphic adventure on the PC" says Mike Nelson, Acting General Manager and VP of Finance and Operations. There is currently no plan to reduce staff.


motherfuckers

MDA
04-03-2004, 19:21:32
Sam and Max hit a brick wall.

zmama
04-03-2004, 19:26:47
:cry:

Vincent
04-03-2004, 20:13:19
shit

Scabrous Birdseed
04-03-2004, 20:43:44
Good fucking jesus christ in a bottle of ether. :eek:

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Vincent
04-03-2004, 21:00:38
I protest and will not use the Indy avatar

Scabrous Birdseed
04-03-2004, 21:40:25
Well done Vincent. I'm switching to a Sam and/or Max avatar in a minute.

Venom
04-03-2004, 22:36:56
Lucas Arts more and more loves to console program.

Guynemer
04-03-2004, 23:38:08
Show some solidarity, Venom. Begone with your George Lucas avatar.

Venom
05-03-2004, 02:15:32
Oh you're right. Good call. I'll have to do it at work tomorrow, I don't have my stuff here at home.

Shining1
05-03-2004, 03:44:43
Fucking miserable cowards...

The Mad Monk
05-03-2004, 08:18:52
I take it that this is a bad thing?

Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2004, 08:38:55
Well, let's just say that until thursday LucasArts had one of the biggest and most fiercly brand-loyal followings on the net. *grins, unconvincingly, like a shark baring all its teeth*

Mad Squirrel
05-03-2004, 08:41:23
... ... ...

:twitch:

GGRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

:(

Drekkus
05-03-2004, 10:00:53
Ehm, can someone tell me what this is about? Who are Sam en Max?

Venom
05-03-2004, 13:38:13
There. I stand united with the anti-LucasArts crowd.

Vincent
05-03-2004, 14:06:15
I hate Lucasarts Nazis

Lurker
05-03-2004, 14:30:36
I'm with Drekkus, wtf is this all about?

zmama
05-03-2004, 14:48:16
http://www.samandmax.net/

Guynemer
05-03-2004, 14:58:44
:b: Venom

Ellipsis
05-03-2004, 21:12:06
Ack! More depressing gaming news :(.

Scabrous Birdseed
05-03-2004, 21:20:48
Steve Purcell has commented on the news and apparently the game was coming along excellently and was close to shipping.

I've written to pr@lucasarts.com and I suggest more do the same, there appears to be a letter-writing campaign going on.

Guynemer
06-03-2004, 02:21:21
I'm not buying the "market place realities" excuse.

Why would they cancel a game so close to release?

Why would they cancel a game that was nearly a mortal lock to be a best seller? The gaming media and the majority of the gaming public alike were anxiously awaiting this game.

Why would they cancel a game that would have an entire genre almost to itself? A genre that has produced some very well received, economically profitable games in the very recent past (TLJ, Syberia).

Something doesn't add up.

The Mad Monk
06-03-2004, 06:16:11
Maybe George played it and thought it stank.

Nav
06-03-2004, 09:33:12
article here

http://www.adventuregamers.com/display.php?id=331

No longer Trippin
06-03-2004, 19:43:10
They program for consoles as their track record on the PC is garbage, I have to back Venom up on that. Kinda hard to really screw a console up even with their dev. group but they are great at it for the PC, or at least used to be.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2004, 11:24:32
Well, their track record up until 1996 or so was exemplary for the PC and nonexistent for the console.

No longer Trippin
07-03-2004, 17:24:17
Yeah, and I could have had kids then and I'm 23 now. :) That was a long time ago SB.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2004, 19:33:16
Name one good console game from LucasArts since 1998 except KOTOR.

No longer Trippin
07-03-2004, 20:48:52
I'm not saying they are good, I'm just saying they sell and they don't have to put up with nearly as much bad press as a PC title generates. Not to mention the shorter and cheaper dev. cost. I never said I liked their console games, just that it seems to be where they are leaning. Larger, easier, less demanding market. They've never really outrighted damned themselves on the consoles in terms of sales compared to the PC when a bad title does come out.

Scabrous Birdseed
07-03-2004, 21:54:12
Console, PC, what's the difference? Their bad, mass-appeal titles sell equally well on the PC. Put the same message you're trying to convey in terms of "Star Wars cash-ins" and "original titles" and you've got the proper story I reckon. Great original developer -> Creator of Phantom Menace cash-in crud -> maker of easy-to-sell Star Wars titles, loses edge/creativity when it comes to original games. Wrath Unleashed and RTX: Red Rock anyone?

Sam and Max, on the other hand, seemed to be heading towards greatness. Bastards.

TV4Fun
07-03-2004, 22:46:31
I remember when Lucasarts adventure games were good. That was before they switched to 3d. The last Lucasarts adventure I played was Grim Fandango, and I can't say I was too impressed. I don't know, was Return to Monkey Island any good?

Shining1
08-03-2004, 02:34:26
A shit starwars tye in is shit whether you play it on Xbox, PC, or Gameboy Advance.

TV4Fun
08-03-2004, 02:36:18
I remember when Lucasarts made good games. Lucasarts console games have always been crap, ever since they were on the NES. But they used to make PC games, too.

Asher
08-03-2004, 02:55:24
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Name one good console game from LucasArts since 1998 except KOTOR.
The only reason KOTOR was good was because Bioware made it.

Guynemer
08-03-2004, 03:49:49
Originally posted by TV4Fun
The last Lucasarts adventure I played was Grim Fandango, and I can't say I was too impressed.


:hmm:

TV4Fun
08-03-2004, 03:51:36
I haven't really kept up to date with them lately.

No longer Trippin
08-03-2004, 06:13:13
Yes, that is Lucasart's backup incase they screw up too many titles in a row, Bioware.

Sir Penguin
08-03-2004, 07:11:11
Here's hoping for a few more screwups from LucasArts then.

SP

Asher
08-03-2004, 07:31:10
LucasArts and Bioware are already making another game.

DaShi
08-03-2004, 10:08:33
I probably would have bought Sam & Max, and I don't buy many adventure games.

fp@korea
09-03-2004, 01:20:02
Same here.

Shining1
09-03-2004, 02:38:56
I haven't heard anything about Lucas Arts and Bioware making another game.

Bioware is doing Jade Empire at the moment, and has two unannounced projects, neither of which are KOTOR2.

Guynemer
09-03-2004, 04:25:22
If there is a just and loving god, the mouth-breathing meatheads at LEC will go bankrupt before the competent folks at Bioware give them KOTOR2 to fill their coffers.

...ah, a righteously-pissed-off boy can dream, can't he?

Shining1
09-03-2004, 10:06:20
It's more likely to come true than many other wild ideas.

Emailed them as well. Wonder if all those 'We have no plans for KOTOR2 currently' statements on the bioware forums had something more behind them than just the desire to play with Chinese mythology.

MDA
09-03-2004, 19:16:23
There will be KOTOR2, but there's just no knowing how soon, or if it will be good. Companies love the sequel market, so much safer and easier than making original games.

Harpoon 4 got dumped, I hear. I missed 2 and 3, but I remember Harpoon (hydrofoil combat sim) fondly.

Shining1
10-03-2004, 04:23:41
KotOR currently has the same official status as Starcraft II. They will make it, certainly, it's a question of WHEN.

Really good developers like Blizzard and Bioware tend to make the games THEY want to make, instead of just pursuing endless sequels for the cash.

Apparently, however, LucasArts has all rights to the KotOR franchise anyway, so Bioware might not be involved at all.

Venom
10-03-2004, 13:43:57
Harpoon 4 has been doomed for awhile. They changed development teams, wanked around with it....all a damn shame. I was looking forward to it.

Darkstar
23-03-2004, 20:55:09
I thought Harpoon 4 got folded into Duke Nukem Forever?