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Venom
15-11-2001, 14:45:50
Short review (what! you expected details from me?):

It's good. It's a little slow as it takes hugh amounts of resources to advance through the epochs, and it's quite complex but it is fun. Oh and it's hard. Even on the easiest setting the AI managed to find the 1 weak spot in my defence and kick my ass.

The best way to play this game is in skirmish mode. That way you can set the starting and ending epochs. That really does give you a near infinite way to play as does the ability to create custom civs.

I don't think you can start a game at the beginning epoch and make it to the end epoch. You will battle and wipe out your enemies long before that. I got my ass beat in the bronze age.

Resource Consumer
16-11-2001, 00:50:52
Are we to expect more details in the future (assuming you are not abducted by aliens)?

Venom
16-11-2001, 12:49:37
Details, details. There's always more details.

Nav
23-11-2001, 11:07:11
Venom's review of Empire Earth: http://www.counterglow.net/article.php?id=empireearthreview

Enjoy!

Funkodrom
23-11-2001, 11:28:17
Very funny review!

Seems Venom learns RTS games the same way I do... fuck the tutorials and missions, go straight to the skirmishes.

Be interesting to hear what MP is like if he ever gets to that. I guess this confirms my thoughts on EE. I'll think about getting it if a lot of people start playing it MP but it's not a screaming MUST BUY THIS! kind of game.

Resource Consumer
23-11-2001, 11:39:04
I think that is an excellent review and has saved me some money. Thanks Venom.

Nav
24-11-2001, 11:48:07
of note venom is now an international web superstar after having his review linked by ve3d.com :D

LadyRachel
24-11-2001, 12:26:59
Nice job Venom!!

Saved me money too, I would have likely picked it up if I hadn't read that. But if I want to play an RTS with dumb resource units and shitty pathfinding, I'll play StarCraft.

Noisy
24-11-2001, 18:35:39
:cool: Cool review, Venom.

Venom
26-11-2001, 14:02:40
Thanks guys. When I'm super famous I'll try not to forget you all.

Sir Penguin
27-11-2001, 02:15:33
Congratulations on the fame you deserve :).

SP

Venom
27-11-2001, 13:10:12
Who are you?

OldWarrior_42
27-11-2001, 14:28:09
I think that was the Funniest review of a game, I have ever read. I enjoyed the shit out of that. Thanks Venom.

And I still may buy it. I was waiting for this game to come out, and it seems I may be abit dissapointed, but..... fuck it. :) I'll buy it. It's only money, right?

Venom
27-11-2001, 15:11:22
You only live once. Go for it.

Sir Penguin
27-11-2001, 19:24:46
Originally posted by Venom
Who are you?

I'm your biggest, hugest fan!

SP

Venom
27-11-2001, 20:09:03
So you're a fat guy?

MDA
27-11-2001, 20:10:09
The AI cheats?

Venom
27-11-2001, 20:10:55
Just a little.

Shining1
28-11-2001, 06:14:22
A really good review. I was especially impressed with the way you didn't try to convince anyone that you were a legendary gamer who knew everything about the game after playing it for 5 minutes:).

Might be worth trying, just for the sake of beating the A.I. But yeah, it doesn't sound like it is better than Starcraft...:rolleyes:

Shining1
28-11-2001, 06:29:44
As an aside, the offical website lists a patch that claims to have:

"Fixed a bug where the computer player AI could sometimes build over its pop cap."

So that might help:).

Go here: Empire Earth Site (http://empireearth.sierra.com/news/)

Venom
28-11-2001, 13:04:35
I like how they say sometimes. LOL!

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 13:37:26
Is the multiplayer game fun?

Venom
28-11-2001, 13:42:38
It's just as fun as Age of Empires, but a little more varied as you can select what ages you want to start and end in.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 13:51:28
Now that sounds promising...

How about a brief run through of one of your MP games...

Venom
28-11-2001, 14:37:40
Ok. I'm typing it up now.

Venom
28-11-2001, 15:24:52
Played a short game just last night. Didn't get to finish it, but I'll give you a run down.

Players=3; 2 human, 1 computer
Map=Standard highland map, Standard resources
Pop limit=500/3 167 people per team (which can be increased by researching certain techs during the game and by selecting certain civilizations)

Starting Age=Renaissance
Ending Age=Modern Atomic
This is a 6 age span I think. There are 2 more after the modern atomic and 5 before Renaissance I believe.

Each human player started with 20 villagers and the computer was given the standard 5.

The game started off pretty slow. Even with 20 villagers it took awhile to gather the resources necessary to start building barracks, temples and farms (which aren't available until the Dark Age which is why we start in the Renaissance Age). I chose to be Great Britain as I knew we were playing on a land map and the Brits get bonuses in Gold Mining and Air Power which are nice. The other guy was the United States which was pretty dumb on his part as their greatest strength is sea units. They do get reduced costs on building walls and improved bombers, but the wall advantage was the most important thing in this game. The comp was like the Assyrians or something. I can't recall their bonuses. So fuck 'em. We just threw the comp guy in there so I'd have someone to beat. My friend is much better than me at these kinds of games and he refuses to play any game I can beat him at, but that's another story.

The game started off as a stone rush so I could get my walls and towers built. The game is open to early rushes. If you build a barracks right away and get your 20 villagers working on food, gold and iron you can make an infantry rush fairly early. It probably won't work though if your opponent got his towers up early though. So I bunkered down behind my walls and towers and built up the infrastructure. There's a tough balance to be struck between getting ready for war and building up your civ. It takes so many resources to advance it's tough to build up a tough army and advance fast enough so you're not left ages behind. I went on the fast track for advancement and built 3 granaries (8 farms to each granary) and started mining some serious ore, stone, gold and wood. INCOMING GAME WEAKNESS!!!!! Even though it looks like there's room for 10 or 15 villagers at each mine, the game only allows 6 at a time which really sucks. So while the mines resources are practically unlimited you still need to seek them out so you can mine fast enough to advance and build.

Anyway, I'm meandering through the start. It's a pretty good start, the comp is afraid to attack as it automatically knows how strong my defense is and my friend appears to be doing to same thing I am. A couple of minor attacks are thrown at each other with no major damage done. The computer finally decides to get chipper and launch a fairly major attack. The attack is defeated so we both use the opportunity to strike back while the comp is weak. We wipe out the comp in the WWI age and then we retreat back to our bases to rebuild and upgrade our forces as well as expand our budding air forces and exploit new areas of resources.

I was about to attack when we decided to call it a night. Things were just getting interesting as airpower was coming into play and unguarded mines and villagers were getting bombed and strafed. Airpower really gives the map a much smaller feel which is pretty cool as well as historically accurate. Our defenses were both well built and getting in a good attack was hard. I think I might have had him as he tends to be a little light on the air defenses and I enjoy using air power.

In any case, it was a fun game. A little slow to get going as Renaissance age units and tech cost a lot and you don't really start with a lot of resources. The 20 villagers helped, but more were still needed to make the game move along smoothly.

Venom
28-11-2001, 15:27:21
Is it just me or did I uses the word "resources" a lot in that post.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 15:47:07
You did.

That sounded fun! If complicated.

Venom
28-11-2001, 16:16:18
It is a bit complicated. There's a lot to do. More than AoE. You've not only got to manage your units but your buildings as well. They offer important techs and upgrades.

I think you'd enjoy playing it. I'm not sure you'd want to spend a lot of money on something so similar to Age of Empires, though the modern units are very fun.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 16:26:36
It might be too complicated...

I still have a lot to do on Z: Steel Soldiers, that's a fun game. Very simple to learn as well which is cool.

Venom
28-11-2001, 16:57:06
You simpleton.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 17:00:02
It has the most satisfying machinegun noise I've heard in an RTS, when you have 20 or so robots machinegunning something it brings a little tear of joy to your eye.

Might write a review sometime....

Venom
28-11-2001, 17:58:21
Go for it.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 19:19:33
I'll play some more once I get my CD drive working again.

Venom
28-11-2001, 19:44:42
You should write a review now, when the games not fresh on your mind. It will turn out better that way since the most important points will be the only things you remember.

Funkodrom
28-11-2001, 19:47:59
Interesting...

Main reason for waiting is I want to get further in the campaign.

Venom
28-11-2001, 19:59:12
Don't lie, you're just being lazy.

Darkstar
30-11-2001, 09:46:29
The real truth, Venom, is that he's never played the thing. Doesn't even own it. That line about a broken CD drive is just smoke while he tries to figure out if he now has to buy it and play it, or find and obscure enough site and steal a review off it for you. ;)

Darkstar
30-11-2001, 09:57:38
Venom... that's the best damned game review I can recall reading.

Funkodrom
30-11-2001, 10:38:47
Rachel has witnessed me playing it.

Darkstar
30-11-2001, 21:38:26
As long as you pay Rachel enough chocolate, she will tell any story you want her to, so long as it isn't to damaging to herself, or highly illegal, Mike. So using Rachel as a witness doesn't count. ;)

Venom
01-12-2001, 02:32:30
Why thank you Darkstar.