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protein
16-02-2004, 22:49:21
I have changed my ISP and I have a decent amount of webspace. I have activated my webspace but can't seem to access the ftp thingy. On the help pages of their website they reccommend that I buy an FTP program to upload stuff to my space. Obvoiusly I'm not going to do that.

With my bagua site (kindly hosted by Vincent) I can just drag and drop files as if the ftp site was a folder on my computer but with this tiscali thing I can't even get to see my web space.

I don't really know what's going on. :(

protein
16-02-2004, 22:50:52
Windows cannot access this folder. Make sure you typed the name correctly and that you have permission to access the folder.

Details:
The FTP session was terminated.

I'm pretty sure I have the FTP address right.

zmama
16-02-2004, 22:54:24
Download this ftp program...Mad Squirrel is using it and it works fine and it's free

Coffecup ftp (http://download.com.com/3000-2160-915590.html?tag=lst-0-14)

protein
16-02-2004, 22:57:05
So you need a program to access the space and you can't just drag and drop? Is that a safety thing? Why aren't they all the same? Bloody computers. I'm going to throw all my electronic devices away and live in the woods before it's too late.

protein
16-02-2004, 22:57:36
thanks by the way. :)

zmama
16-02-2004, 23:04:55
It's hard to explain but different kinds of internet traffic go through different virtual ports (kind of like doorways)...http goes through port 80 and ftp goes through port 21. The ftp program helps establish the pathway...its a small program and you'll be able to drag and drop your files in it.

And before the other geeks come along...yes, that is a very simplified version and yes I know other ports can be used yadda yadda :D

Nav
16-02-2004, 23:11:57
another free one is (and in my opinion the best) is www.smartftp.com

protein
16-02-2004, 23:23:26
Thanks. I've used zmama's one and it worked. It keeps trying to sell me stuff and I think it's going to run out in 30 days so I may get another.

I have a test page up.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bagua

Sean
17-02-2004, 10:23:26
http://www.pablovandermeer.nl/body_ftp_wanderer.html is nice and simple.

Sean
17-02-2004, 10:23:50
I still use WS_FTP LE though, for the most part. It just works.

QtFLW@Work
17-02-2004, 19:24:53
Originally posted by protein
Thanks. I've used zmama's one and it worked. It keeps trying to sell me stuff and I think it's going to run out in 30 days so I may get another.

I have a test page up.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bagua

Needs more pretty pictures and explosions.

protein
18-02-2004, 00:35:28
Gah. It was just to see if it worked.

I need to teach myself HTML and all about style sheets if that's what you use?

QtFLW@Work
18-02-2004, 01:08:56
Good idea, but make sure you learn them both at roughly the same time so you never have to use the FONT tag, ever.

Funkodrom
18-02-2004, 09:38:24
Originally posted by protein
Gah. It was just to see if it worked.

I need to teach myself HTML and all about style sheets if that's what you use?

Yeah, use stylesheets.

There are loads of references on the web but you could steal the style.css file from your Bleeding Ear site if you want to see how I used that (and you can also see how I included that file in the web pages).

Funkodrom
18-02-2004, 09:39:15
And let me know if you have any questions. Some things I can answer easily and I have decent references for others.

LoD
25-02-2004, 10:02:01
Filezilla is very nice. And it's Open Source GPL, so no ads.
http://filezilla.sourceforge.net

Do note that this program has absolutely no affilation to Go!zilla :gasmaske:.

Aredhran
25-02-2004, 11:02:19
I second Nav's suggestion - smartftp rules.

Nav
25-02-2004, 13:21:23
cheers red. ;)

Stylesheets rule.

See if you can get away with using <div> tags rather than relying too much on tables for basic content.

ie

.textbox {
padding: 5px;
width: 500px;
font: bold 8pt Verdana;
color: #ffffff;
background-color: #000000
}

Funkodrom
25-02-2004, 13:26:44
Div tags are a total fucking bitch to position accurately across browsers.

Nav
25-02-2004, 21:08:39
it does take a bit of tweaking.

I'm putting together a site where most of the layout is done by div tags. Wasn't too hard to get it working across the latest versions of the 3 major browsers (Netscrape of course is the most troublesome).

I wouldnt recommend using absolute positioning, as that can be a real bitch.

It isn't much good for complicated layouts either, you need to fall back on tables for that. But I'm hoping this site will be a lot quicker because of the amount of unnecessary table layout code removed.