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Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 12:08:17
Gig promoters round Reading don't take The Unholy seriously. Looks like to get any kind of decent gig round here we'll have to put it on ourselves.

Vincent Fandango
22-02-2002, 12:47:00
Idiots reign!

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 12:48:07
Us or them? :D

Actually any advice from people here who've put on stuff like this before would be handy...

Resource Consumer
22-02-2002, 12:53:30
We always used to do things ourselves. What do you need to know?

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 12:55:20
How to get people to come and not lose too much money on two bands that no-one in the town has ever heard of. :D

Our drummer has had a promotions business for a year and we've got contacts to printers for flyers etc, and we can get out there and drum up interest working the pubs, uni etc.

Vincent Fandango
22-02-2002, 12:56:09
"THE DAY ROCK WILL DIE"

Sean
22-02-2002, 12:56:20
You could give inflatable Goat Lords away!

Or will you keep them for yourselves? :hmm:.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 12:58:44
Giving stuff away is a good idea.

One problem, obviously, is that the more we spend the more we need to recoup in door money to break even.

I don't think we can really afford to do it as some kind of loss leader for a more successful second gig.

We can get a venue for free we think but we'd need to provide, at minimum. some doorstaff and a PA.

Sean
22-02-2002, 13:01:04
What about CDs? Do you get your own music cheaper from MP3.com?

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 13:18:22
Yes but I could write my own CDs here from the official recordings which would be better quality and only cost 34p + printing the cover.

Sean
22-02-2002, 13:29:03
Well, why not do promo CDs?

MattHiggs
22-02-2002, 13:32:41
I still think my idea of writing unholy on my forhead with biro was a good idea :D

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 13:36:06
Shame your forehead was too greasy.

Promo CDs are a good idea! We need some really good recordings though.

MattHiggs
22-02-2002, 13:36:47
You had no soap in your downstairs bathroom :D

Snapcase
22-02-2002, 13:37:01
Viral Advertising!

Start spreading nasty rumours about yourselves.

Get arrested for doing stupid things naked in public.

Paint the town black.

Drive around town with a megaphone shouting random abuse at everyone you pass.

Put stickers on packs of real ale flavoured condoms.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 13:37:41
ie. Go on a standard night out in Reading.

MattHiggs
22-02-2002, 13:39:00
Put loads of signs on motorway bridges. Everywhere I drive now I see Couranga signs.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 14:15:22
Thanks for the suggestions guys! Given me some ideas for more creative marketing stuff.

Sean
22-02-2002, 14:24:21
Oh, you wanted creative.

Publish a lyric book (you’ve got contacts with printers) and give it away on the door.

Walk around town singing your songs.

See if the football club will announce your gig.

Go into a music shop with a load of stickers advertising the gig and stick them on all the metal albums.

If you’re confident you’ll be good enough to get lots interest for a second gig, take a chance financially. Spend money to get people to the first one.

Venom
22-02-2002, 14:31:38
Originally posted by MikeH
We need some really good recordings though.

You guys are screwed then.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 14:32:42
Yeah, I think we can do it and at least break even. PA + doorstaff is 150 because we know people so we can get that cheap which means we'd have to get 50 people @ 3 a head to cover that. A lot of which we could cover with our friends. 5000 flyers are, apparently, about 100. :eek: So we'd need to pull in around 30 random people to come close to breaking even. I think it's doable if we work hard enough at promoting it.

Sean
22-02-2002, 14:43:11
Do you really need 5, 000 flyers? Wouldn’t your money be better spent elsewhere?

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 14:46:42
That's one of the things to work out... Our drummer used to run Superfly a flyering company so he might be skewed towards that but flyers do work.

Sean
22-02-2002, 14:50:16
But 5,000 (does it look better without the space?) is an awful lot unless you’re littering every third seat of the football ground with them.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 14:56:10
Every 5th seat. :cool:

It seems a lot but it's not that many to do several venues several times.

Sean
22-02-2002, 14:57:50
25,000 is it? Must be because of the rugby.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 14:58:41
Rugby gets tiny attendances like it does everywhere.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:28:02
Oh and most important... when we get it sorted who wants to come?

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:33:18
...if you have a punk supporting act... :smoke:

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:35:14
We've got Left Side Brain supporting. I think I played them to you when you were here and you thought they were pretty good.

Sean
22-02-2002, 16:36:34
…I would ask you how much the tickets were. And then, once you’d told me that, I would fall back in horror and say ‘You must be frigging joking, mate!’

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:36:53
Shouldn't you be supporting them? ;)

Nah, seriously, there were pretty good. I may make an appearance...

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:38:34
Sean, where's that a quote from?

EiF I can provide some kind of accommodation obviously if people need it.

Sean
22-02-2002, 16:40:03
Snuff Fiction, when they’re talking about Brentstock.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:40:32
Oh and we are supporting LSB in Frome in May. They are quite happy to support us, they are probably our biggest fans... not that there's a huge amount of competition.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:42:00
Originally posted by Sean
Snuff Fiction, when they’re talking about Brentstock.

Ah. Thought I recognised it. :D

Have you read The Fandom of the Operator yet? One of his best I think.

Sean
22-02-2002, 16:43:42
I’ve read them all except the second Armageddon one, the fifth Brentford one, the third Rune one, and the last two.

So no :D.

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:43:54
You should flyer the After Dark and get the Sesame Street DJ to announce the gig... if you can do that.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:45:46
Will definitely do that, thinking about going there tonight to mention it to them. They'd definitely at least give flyers to people and they'll come if they aren't working.

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:46:35
Originally posted by Sean
I’ve read them all except the second Armageddon one, the fifth Brentford one, the third Rune one, and the last two.

So no :D.

Web Site Story is pretty good, out of all those I'd make sure I got my hands on The Fandom of the Operator first though.

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:48:06
Is there another alternative club in Reading you could try as well?

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:49:14
Yes, never been to it but it's where all the kids apparently hang out.

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:51:23
One of the guys on the Uni table-tennis team is from Reading, he comes to Ziggys on a Tuesday too, he was telling me about the other place, tho I can't remember what it was called...

He also laughed when I told him Rich had been ID'd at the After Dark. :lol:

*End Is Forever*
22-02-2002, 16:52:52
And you were absolutely right, it just gets funnier... :lol:

Funkodrom
22-02-2002, 16:54:08
It used to be the TUC I think now it's called Tropicana, opposite the Boxing Club.

Adam Bomb
24-02-2002, 02:52:31
Hello. 'tis I, the drummer from hell.
I like the stickers on CDs idea, only I think they might find out who has been doing the sticking and where to find us.
How about one side of the flyers having an advert on it. It would bring the cost down. Maybe Sound Machine or something, we could even make a profit. (especially as we are flyering to the rock crowd) Or we could advertise Counterglow on the spare side? Hmmm...
We will be plugging the gig via the usual Evening Post / Blah Blah / 210FM routes anyway.
At least one gig will be booked by next weekend. I promise.

Vincent Fandango
24-02-2002, 09:54:12
Originally posted by Adam Bomb
Hello. 'tis I, the drummer from hell.
You are Ralf Bonk?

Sean
24-02-2002, 12:27:27
Surely printing on the other side would bring the cost of flyers up, in absolute terms?

Adam Bomb
24-02-2002, 14:52:13
I have been involved with the exciting world of promotions (lol) for a while now. I have never ever come across a one sided flyer. Except those crappy photocopied ones for kebab shops which people bin straight away.
An ad would probably half the cost but a one sided flyer would probably knock a decent amount off too. I shall investigate.
:nervous:

Funkodrom
25-02-2002, 09:21:02
Is it your birthday today? Happy Birthday!
:beer:

Ads on the flyer would be good if it makes it cheaper. Assuming we can find someone who wants to advertise on us. :D

Can we sell ad space on our clothing and instruments? ;)

Funkodrom
25-02-2002, 10:43:14
I see Adam's been busy... the josaka messageboards have him looking for a PA to rent for the 23rd March. :eek::bouncmsk:

Funkodrom
25-02-2002, 10:46:53
Although that's not necessarily for us.

Adam Bomb
25-02-2002, 14:39:51
The josaka PA thing isn't me.
I want Pepsi sponsorship on my drumkit.
(it isn't my birthday, I just wanted the thing to say happy 780th birthday to me! didn't work though.):gotit:

Resource Consumer
25-02-2002, 14:43:43
For the cost of a small generator, play on the top of the multi storey car park on a saturday afternoon. Get someone to throw leaflets down to the town. (The sound'll be dodgy so don't worry about the PA - or just use a small one for vocals only).

Funkodrom
25-02-2002, 15:18:05
Originally posted by Adam Bomb
The josaka PA thing isn't me.
I want Pepsi sponsorship on my drumkit.
(it isn't my birthday, I just wanted the thing to say happy 780th birthday to me! didn't work though.):gotit:

*phew* And I thought that your birthday was around the same time as Goat Lord and King_Ghidra's in August, which confused me.