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FunkyFingers
15-02-2002, 12:50:58
http://www.eliteclub.co.uk/download/

I spent literally months playing this game, quite tempted to download it again and get back in to it...

I like this (from the official www.Frontier.co.uk website):

"Frontier: Elite II" was the long awaited sequel to Elite. It was written in five and a half years by David Braben, with Konami Inc of Japan as publisher. In 1993, Konami decided to get out of PC publishing, and sold the rights to Gametek. The game was released in October 1993 and was in the top few slots in the UK Gallup chart for the best part of the following year. It was the best selling game in Europe 1993 according to Gallup.

It was made up of in the region of 250,000 lines of 68000 assembler, and as such was one of the largest (and last) commercial programs to be written entirely in assembler*. Chris Sawyer (now of Rollercoaster Tycoon fame) did the mammoth task of porting it to the 80286 for the PC.

*We now understand that Rollercoaster Tycoon was written in assembler, so Frontier is certainly not the last!

"Frontier" also set a number of firsts. It was the first game to have real-sized planets, where cities could be viewed from orbit, it was the first to use curved surfaces (bezier), the only game to do a palette-fit every frame to get best use of colours (Amiga and ST only), and (apart from First Encounters) is the only piece of software (games or otherwise) that attempts to simulate our entire galaxy.

Planets orbit and rotate correctly, so if you stay in one spot you will see sunrises, and the progression of stars, planets and moons through the night sky. It is possible to watch Saturn-rise from one of its moons.

Funkodrom
15-02-2002, 12:53:18
Sure you don't want to be a news editor?

FunkyFingers
15-02-2002, 13:07:24
I keep forgetting :confused:

Funkodrom
15-02-2002, 13:23:52
:)

Nav
15-02-2002, 17:29:17
Good item.. note that the 'shareware' version of Frontier: Elite 2 was released in July.. just a little bit late on the news! :D

Spartak
15-02-2002, 20:26:33
IIRC the orginal was buggy as hell.

Spartak
15-02-2002, 20:31:41
Im downloading as we post btw

Nav
16-02-2002, 00:29:44
Frontier: First Encounters (sequal to Frontier: Elite 2) was buggy as hell when it was first released. A couple of patches fixed that though.

You can download an executable to play FFE on Windows.. its called JJFFE or something..

Spartak
16-02-2002, 21:34:11
Do you know where?

Spartak
16-02-2002, 21:40:26
Never mind - found it straightaway. :o

FunkyFingers
17-02-2002, 13:29:50
Question is, which one to download - F:E2, or First Encounters?

Nav
18-02-2002, 09:34:42
Doesnt really make any difference.. The graphics in FFE are slighly improved... and there is a storyline unlike Frontier.

on another note, I think that Elite 4 won't be released until 2003, even though it was originally touted as 02.

FunkyFingers
18-02-2002, 10:04:52
Ah ha!
Downloaded both - couldn't get a reliable DOS mode working on my pc, so, downloaded the Win9x DirectX version of First Encounters, which, after a little tweaking, now runs with sound and in a full scaleable window at 1152x864!
Now, if only I can not get smashed in to the moon of Ross154 by the damn autopilot I'd be happy!

The only thing missing are the video clips which were from the First Encounters CD-Rom and are not included in the download. Never mind.

Nav
18-02-2002, 11:31:52
They're the crappest ever in game videos so you're not missing anything (I just used to turn them off!).

FunkyFingers
18-02-2002, 12:46:32
Excellent.

Ellipsis
18-02-2002, 14:51:16
Oooh. Gimme!

Wait...5?

Nav
18-02-2002, 15:34:09
yeah FunkyFingers needs to start to understand that 'Shareware' is not 'Free' :D

FunkyFingers
18-02-2002, 16:51:58
Free is anything that costs less than 2 pints of lager in my modern man terminology.

Plus, unless the Win9x version of it times out after 30 days, I don't expect to be paying it to anybody and if it does, well, someone is going to get it :shoot:

Beta1
18-02-2002, 17:16:19
I can point you to a few pubs in london where 2 pints of lager doesnt cost 5 quid...

FunkyFingers
18-02-2002, 17:38:07
Not where I live/work!
I went to a bar in Richmond last Wednesday night (where I live) and I was charged 2.95 for a pint of Stella.

Ouch!

Nav
18-02-2002, 17:52:54
Had a pint of kingfisher larger in an indian restaurant for 4.10 on sat... :D

Spartak
18-02-2002, 21:09:01
I can't get the sound to work. Funky - how did you get it to run in a window and how the hell to I configure the sound? Please..

Greg W
18-02-2002, 22:31:36
You need to download the entirely illegal :D windows version off one of the fan sites. If you look at the links off the download site, there's a link from one of them to the windows version of it.

FunkyFingers
19-02-2002, 12:03:52
Hi Spartak

If you have download the Win version of First Encounters - open the readme file for it. There it mentions that all the sound effects files and the music files must reside in their own sub directories.

Create 2 folders of the correct name (I think one is SFX and one is Music) and then move all the appropriate files in to the relevant folders. That should get the sound and music to work.

In order to make the game run in a scaleable window (which you definitely want to do), open the ffw25.cfg file (it may not be called exactly that, but you'll find the one I mean).

In there is a line item called
"Nonscaleable window =1"

Beneath that is also described the window resoloution.

Simply change the 1 to a 0 (the digit zero). Save the changes. Start the game et voila, a fully scalable window.

This has the happy sideeffect of rendering the graphics actually viewable, and because it's running through Direct X, you can enable a wee bit of Anti-Aliasing if you have it on your graphics card!

Hope that helps.

FunkyFingers
26-02-2002, 11:48:40
Spent 4 hours playing this last night and most of the weekend, this is such a good game! Started running courier jobs for odd packages and moving further afield from my current successful trading routes, starting to get interesting. May have to get a better ship soon though, need more cargo space, more speed, more firepower. Great stuff!
Anyone know if it's worth subscribing to and reading the space journals?

Spartak
26-02-2002, 17:46:47
Thanks Funcky. Have it now. The journals are worth reading. you get clues about good things to do.

FunkyFingers
27-02-2002, 14:31:30
Spartak - glad to help. Am now reading the journals during my trips through space. It's quite hard getting the hang of the game again when you don't have the instruction manual - trying to remember what all the controls were etc. Still, doing ok.

Spartak
27-02-2002, 20:09:21
There is a link to a HTML manual in your original link.

FunkyFingers
28-02-2002, 10:35:45
Aah, that'll be it!

Joined the Imperial Navy last night and by sheer fortuitous luck of being able to complete 10 delivery missions to the same destination at the same time, twice in a row, am now highly regarded Corporal. Also now have a good reputation for running small "packages" for people and being able to fight off the inevitable assassins, so can insist on more pay. Risked a drugs smuggling run for huge profit, so now considering buying a new ship. Got almost 100,000 credits so wonder what to buy... Whoo hoo!
Got to love this game!

Spartak
28-02-2002, 22:03:30
excellant - don't know when I'll have time to play - I need to find my joystick first ;)

FunkyFingers
01-03-2002, 08:58:42
I'm still struggling with using the mouse to fly at the mo', going to have to get my Stick configured as well, good point...

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
01-03-2002, 17:09:12
"Sheer fortuitous luck"? The Imperial Navy is notorious for having a lot of easy missions to the same or similar destinations.

Case in point: the Vequess/Sohoa/<something - it's the Imperial Naval base I think?> triangle. You can pick up stacks of experience, promotions and cash there.

Spartak
01-03-2002, 17:31:00
works for me.

FunkyFingers
04-03-2002, 09:37:31
Right, having real trouble with an Imperial Navy mission...

At Wolf 248 I've picked up a mission to a nearby system where I have to perform a reconnassance mission to a secret military base. I have to destroy an orbiting communications satellite, overfly the base, take spy photos, then drop a nuke on it then hpyerspace back to base. All fine and dandy. Except, my piloting skills are not up to the job so far and the autopilot won't get me in to orbit! Any tips for manual flying the approach to a planet and also blowing up this comms sat? Anyone done this mission?

Nav
04-03-2002, 10:10:29
Elite is not known for precision flying... :D
I never got that far with the military missions, I'm a trader at heart!

FunkyFingers
04-03-2002, 10:22:09
I thought I'd try the military "for adventures beond your wildest dreams" or something like that!

FunkyFingers
05-03-2002, 09:43:24
Bloody game, stole 4 1/2 hours of my life last night, and what have I got to show for it? Well a nice new Cobra Mk3 ship, but that's about it.
Addicted. Don't think my wife-to-be was too happy about spending the entirety of Monday night infront of the pc, might have to wean myself off this game...!

Spartak
06-03-2002, 09:16:46
How many crashes have you had off it so far?

FunkyFingers
06-03-2002, 09:54:39
The program itself has crashed only once. I however have crashed in to planets probably at least 50 times by now :D

Spartak
09-03-2002, 10:55:25
:lol: :lol: :lol:

MDA
12-05-2003, 16:06:15
Elite Plus is available for FREE (not shareware) at Ian Bell's website.

Elite and Elite Plus (http://www.iancgbell.clara.net/elite/)

Thanks to couslee for the new timesink!

MDA
12-05-2003, 16:09:06
I'm just now getting the hang of docking - I dock less than I crash!!! Who designs a space station that rotates that fast!!

If they want gravity, they can stay down on the planet :mad:
an autodock computer will likely be my first purchase, just to cut down on save/reload

Beta1
12-05-2003, 17:35:08
Just read all that stuff about the fallout between bell and braben.

Admitedly I've only read bell's side of the story but braben seems rather litigous - esp the way he treated the guy who had written the unreleased palm OS elite. Pretty harsh to block its release when all the original elites are now available free and their source code published.

MDA
12-05-2003, 18:38:02
I've read both sites, its hard to tell what really transpired.

Bell puts a link to Braben's site, then ruins it by pointing out that he's taking the high road by doing so. Mudslingers, both.