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Lurker
14-11-2003, 17:11:41
Who here plays that game, or is this last year's question?

Since just about the only game I could play on my old computer was soltaire, I haven't kept up much with games. I bought this game to initiate the new computer and I've got to say it's pretty damn fun.

I hope Venom has it so I can talk him into MP and then shoot his fat ass with an anti-tank gun or something.

Pilsn3r
14-11-2003, 17:41:43
it gets even better if you run the forgotten hope mod:
http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/main.html
http://forgottenhope.bf1942files.com/press/fhlogo-screen_small.jpg

Venom
14-11-2003, 17:46:41
Oh I've got BF1942 and the Road to Rome expansion. I'd crush you if we ever played.

Nav
14-11-2003, 18:00:12
I can't play because my router (or my network card) flakes out whenever I try and get a server listing. :cry:

Venom
14-11-2003, 18:10:27
You got the proper ports open?

MDA
14-11-2003, 18:19:25
:brwncard:

Lurker
14-11-2003, 18:40:03
Originally posted by Venom
Oh I've got BF1942 and the Road to Rome expansion. I'd crush you if we ever played.

I suspect you would indeed crush me. It's gonna take me forever just to learn how to use the proper controls.

I keep crashing airplanes and I don't know how to use the weapons in vehicles (I can drive them). Yesterday, I couldn't even figure out how to get out of the landing craft that I drove to Iwo Jima. Had to sit that battle out. :D

I gotta say, though, it is a very cool game.

Venom
14-11-2003, 18:56:10
It is a very cool game. Flying the airplanes is a bitcht though. I've never mastered it. I just concentrate on being a ground commando.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 19:10:51
I like the scout. Snipering is superb.

Venom
14-11-2003, 19:12:00
Give me the heavy machine gun...and a tank. I can drive the hell out of a tank.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 19:31:34
I haven't figured out how to operate the tank's weapons.

But I've only had the game for two days -- presumably I'll get there.

Venom
14-11-2003, 19:55:01
No. No you won't.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 20:03:51
BS. I was the greatest Space Invaders player ever. I'm sure the skills are tranferrable.

Venom
14-11-2003, 20:12:58
Tanks...Space Ships....not even remotely similar.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 20:19:53
Do any of the scenarios let you fire the big guns on a battleship?

Venom
14-11-2003, 20:23:36
Yeah, Midway and Iwo Jima I think have capital ship big guns. Maybe a couple other pacific maps too.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 20:29:17
Excellent.

I predict the Dutch girl will be dumping me before Christmas.

Venom
14-11-2003, 20:31:48
I hope she's kills you and then dumps your body in the river.

Lurker
14-11-2003, 20:44:48
That could happen, although I suspect it would involve several different rivers each with several different body parts.

MDA
14-11-2003, 21:54:00
Originally posted by Lurker
Excellent.

I predict the Dutch girl will be humping me before Christmas.

:hmm:

Nav
15-11-2003, 13:51:54
Originally posted by Lurker
Excellent.

I predict the Dutch boy will be humping me before Christmas. :eek:

Venom
15-11-2003, 14:25:35
Originally posted by Lurker
That could happen, although I suspect it would involve several different rivers each with several different body parts.

She sounds like my kind of girl.

King_Ghidra@home
16-11-2003, 22:58:16
I play a lot of bf1942

I was very into the Desert Combat mod (www.desertcombat.com) but i'm back on vanilla bf now.

Great game

Chairman Yang
17-11-2003, 15:01:51
I didnt like it, but then Im not like everyone else am I. I like games like mohaa better, more reality, more infantry animations and nicer models etc. BF infantry looks like sticks with two legs and a rifle. they all sound alike, most look alike. Weapon sounds were...discouraging. Like, shooter coated in some ww2.

King_Ghidra@home
22-11-2003, 10:00:56
certainly reality isn't the aim of bf1942

but then it's designed to be more fun than a brutal slog through 7 million snipers like mohaa is

bf1942 is primarily a mutli player based game with heavy vehicle interaction
mohha is a primarily a single player game with the focus on infantry actions

so whichever of those concepts floats your boat get that one

Lurker
24-11-2003, 16:49:00
I still haven't played this in multiplay yet. I've been playing the individual battles in order to get used to the various terrains, etc. Playing on intermediate level, I have been getting obliterated in the battle of Kharkov.

Venom
24-11-2003, 18:01:56
No loves MoH more than I, but calling it realistic is pretty funny. In any case, BF1942 is what it is because it has to be. For balance and playability's sake. And it does damn well too.

Lurker
09-12-2003, 18:37:23
Venom, do you use a joystick to fly the planes? I think it would probably make it a lot easier. I'm getting a lot better at this game.

Venom
09-12-2003, 19:30:24
I am the worst pilot in the BF1942 universe, but yes, a joystick is easier for me. Though I do know people who fly pretty good with a mouse.

Lurker
09-12-2003, 19:48:48
I'm hopeless with the mouse. I can generally drop a few random bombs, etc., and keep from crashing using the keyboard, but that's about it. This is a good excuse to get a joystick.

Who can recommend a good server for MP? By "good" I mean one that's not generally occupied by a bunch of teenage twats who spend time shooting their own teammates.

Vincent
09-12-2003, 21:02:40
Originally posted by Venom
I am the worst pilot in the BF1942 universe, but yes, a joystick is easier for me. Though I do know people who fly pretty good with a mouse. Ha! I would challenge you. I'm known as "No, the grooouuuuuund" Vincent.
The mouse is terrible if you are playing SWoWWII ... The planes (or the rocket) are just too fast

Vincent
09-12-2003, 21:03:44
Originally posted by Lurker
I'm hopeless with the mouse. I can generally drop a few random bombs, etc., and keep from crashing using the keyboard, but that's about it. This is a good excuse to get a joystick.

Who can recommend a good server for MP? By "good" I mean one that's not generally occupied by a bunch of teenage twats who spend time shooting their own teammates.

We should form the most ridiculous cclan ever.

BigGameHunter
09-12-2003, 22:03:57
And you say aquariums are gay.
You guys are chatting about joysticks.

Venom
10-12-2003, 02:54:49
Originally posted by Vincent
We should form the most ridiculous cclan ever.

We'll just run around killing ourselves over and over again. That'll be great.

Lurker, you can mostly find pretty good games on all the EA servers. Occasionally you'll find some tool but it really can't be avoided.

Drekkus
10-12-2003, 16:01:51
Hey, I have bf1942 as well! But I got it from a friend, who got it of the internet, so it freezes and doesn't do multiplay.

If people here ever decide to do MP sessions, let me know and I'll get a normal copy from the store.
I had the same thing with the not getting out of the landing craft bit. I just grenaded myself and tried again. :D The sniper thing is really difficult though, especially if you compare to MOH.

Lurker
10-12-2003, 16:05:30
Got a joystick last night and it is definitely easier to fly that way, but still very difficult to do anything effective. I wouldn't want to be my ally with me in the air.

We should try to coordinate something among the CGers. Maybe BGH could get the game -- he's probably a star with the joystick. :D

Lurker
10-12-2003, 16:09:12
I don't have MoH, so I can't compare. Personally, I think the sniper is easy, but I've used that character as much as any other.

Venom
10-12-2003, 16:11:47
I'm up for a game of bf. Just recently got everything updated.

Funkodrom
10-12-2003, 16:20:15
boyfriend?

Funkodrom
10-12-2003, 16:20:16
boyfriend?

King_Ghidra
10-12-2003, 16:22:18
that comment was hardly worth making once, but twice it's unforgiveable

Lurker
10-12-2003, 16:22:48
If Vincent plays, do we have to be the Germans?

Venom
10-12-2003, 16:27:24
:lol: KG. Right on!

Funkodrom
10-12-2003, 16:38:44
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
that comment was hardly worth making once, but twice it's unforgiveable

The fucking internet has been fucking stopping and starting all day. It's infuriating.

Venom
10-12-2003, 16:39:21
So are your lame jokes. Must be some kind of karmic retribution.

Vincent
10-12-2003, 16:57:32
Originally posted by Lurker
If Vincent plays, do we have to be the Germans? You can play as the allies? Didn't know that.
Join us, Drekkus!

Lurker
12-12-2003, 20:36:19
Someone needs to set up a CG server on Gamespy or wherever. By "someone", I mean someone computer literate.

Vincent
12-12-2003, 21:56:37
Dream on

Drekkus
14-12-2003, 18:15:14
This is fucking great. Just bought the BF1942 de luxe edition. Wanted to uninstall my old copy, couldn't find an uninstall option. So deleted the directory. But now when I enter the cd, it says it has detected an old version of the game, which must be uninstalled first. But there aren't any files left to delete. :bash:

zmama
14-12-2003, 18:26:37
You could try one of these uninstallers...I haven't used any of these particular programs but have used an uninstaller before with great success.

http://download.com.com/3150-2096-0.html?tag=dir

And next time don't just delete the directory! :rolleyes:

Lurker
14-12-2003, 19:53:47
I've been sitting on my lazy ass all day today playing on Gamespy. I generally get killed almost as many times as I kill others. Not necessarily bad for capture the flag, but no good for kill games.

Drekkus
14-12-2003, 20:26:48
OK, fixed it, installed everything. Now I'll try a mp game.

Drekkus
14-12-2003, 23:45:00
All I've been getting is 'wrong version' messages. What version are you people playing?

Lurker
15-12-2003, 00:25:04
Did you get whatever patches there are?

Venom
15-12-2003, 00:34:12
I think it's up to 1.5 or something.

Drekkus
15-12-2003, 12:53:42
Nice patch, 143 MB. I'll get it tonight.

So what extra maps are people playing here? I saw an accurate Omaha beach map, a Point du Hoc map and a few other nice ones.

King_Ghidra
15-12-2003, 13:00:20
i've only played the ones ea have released

the new pacific one is great

aberdeen is huge and good if you like tank battles

battle of britain and coral sea are good fun for flying

Drekkus
15-12-2003, 13:15:32
Flying with your mouse sucks. My joystick didn't work in it, so I guess I must change something in the settings for that.

What about cheats in mp games? I read about a few cheats (like no fog, aimbots and an all seeing eye) that people use in online games. That's no fun, is it?

King_Ghidra
15-12-2003, 13:19:43
i really don't know what is or isn't out there cheat wise - my old clan mates are very jumpy and accusative but i'm more sceptical, i think people use it as an excuse for their own shit play

All i would say is that, because of the quantity of large scale devastation in the game, an aimbot isn't as inlfuential as in say counter strike - i.e. being a crack sniper won't save your ass from a naval shell or a b-17 payload landing on it

Venom
15-12-2003, 14:07:47
I've not looked into BF1942 cheating. But I also can't say I've ever come across anyone that was blatantly cheating and I'd like to think that the design of the game has had a hand in that.

Lurker
15-12-2003, 18:52:43
Drekkus, you have to configure the joystick.
Click on "Options" , then "Controls".
Select the "Air" tab.
Set you joystick throttle on its slowest setting.
Click in the box on the far right of "Speed Up" and move the throttle control to full on.
If your joystick has a twist handle, click on "Rudder Left", and then twist the joystick to the left.
Click on "Pitch Up" and then move the joystick to the back.
Click on "Roll Left" and then move the joystick to the left.
Set the primary and secondary fire to however you prefer.
You can also assign joystick commands to "Enter/Exit" and "parachute". They are in the "Common" tab.

Flying takes practice, but I'm beginning to get it down a bit.

Does anyone know which maps have the subs? I haven't been able to find one yet.

Drekkus
17-12-2003, 10:20:03
Hmm, I think I need to do it again, because I might have made some mistakes. The plane moves very, very strange.

I got the patch, and am very curious about playing online tonight. Did read a lot about the game being spoiled by the cheaters though.

So when are we setting up a CG BF online shootout?

King_Ghidra
17-12-2003, 10:22:58
i have played loads and loads of bf online and i can honestly say i have never seen someone doing something tha made me think they were cheating

the people who really ruin bf online are the teamkillers - these guys can genuinely ruin your game

Drekkus
17-12-2003, 11:22:18
teamkillers? Friendly fire enthousiasts?

King_Ghidra
17-12-2003, 12:06:51
yep. If there are no admins on a server these guys can just sit in the base blowing the crap out of everyone and everything on their own team and the whole server just turns into a joke

a good sign is when you search for a server look out for people with large - scores. Anyone can accidentally kil a tem mate but if a guy has -8 or more chances are he 's a tk asshole

Beta1
17-12-2003, 12:57:18
I might have to get this to go with my new broadband connection.

Of course I'll have to cut down on my CM addiction first.

Venom
17-12-2003, 13:27:11
When are we gonna do this shit bitches. I'm out for this weekend though, I've got to go to a wedding and drink all their beer.

Drekkus
17-12-2003, 14:48:51
So when would be a good time for both US and EU posters to play? Around midnight european time?

Venom
17-12-2003, 14:50:47
Besides this weekend I can play anytime during the weekend if that's too late for you Euros.

Nav
17-12-2003, 14:53:29
If somebody would give me a server ip to connect to I could play. My router/network card/ethernet modem won't allow me to get server playlists.

Lurker
17-12-2003, 14:59:26
Weekend mornings are probably best for me in terms of when the Eurotwats will likely be available. Weekday evenings are the middle of the night, and I'd hate to think any of you might not get a good night's sleep. God only knows what Drekkus would be like unrested. :D

Drekkus
17-12-2003, 15:12:49
I could play from 23.00 until 2 at night on weekdays, so that's 1 in england and 20.00 in the US? Weekends I don't know, since I never know what the g/f has in mind. So I might have the whole weekend, or no time at all.

Lurker
17-12-2003, 15:38:18
On some nights, I could fit the last two of those hours in.

Venom
17-12-2003, 15:43:20
20.00 would be fine on just about any night here. Although I've got a lot of TV to watch.

Drekkus
17-12-2003, 15:52:18
Just multi task.

Lurker
17-12-2003, 15:52:42
Rerun season will be here soon.
Unless you're talking about porn.

Darkstar
17-12-2003, 21:51:10
US East Coast is 5 hours behind Brit time.
US Central is 6 hours behind.
US Mountain is 7 hours behind.
US West Coast is 8 hours behind.

Your midnight will be afternoon (West Coast) to evening (East Coast) for North America.

Lurker
18-12-2003, 15:44:10
I downloaded (took an hour) Forgotten Hope and installed it (with the maps), but it keeps aborting during efforts to load it. Tried it on a couple of maps, same result. Haven't had a chance to check the website for tech issues yet, though.

Beta1
18-12-2003, 15:56:04
Does BF1942 have Bot support?

King_Ghidra
18-12-2003, 16:08:34
yes, in single player only

they're a bit thick, you won't be surprised to hear

Venom
18-12-2003, 16:11:19
They SUCK. Although they're probably better than Lurker.

Lurker
18-12-2003, 16:21:57
No, I usually run around all over the place and miss things before I get shot. Bots just sit there and let you shoot them. Unless they shoot you first.

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 11:15:00
"I usually run around all over the place and miss things before I get shot."

We could play each other and actually stay alive for longer than 5 seconds. Played some online bf yesterday (again). At some games I just get blown away every single time before I can even aim. At some games the kill/be killed ratio is a more equal. I even wandered into a map where gravity was almost zero, people flying through the air like it was the matrix. :lol:

Lurker
19-12-2003, 12:32:56
I played a game last night where you periodically changed colors. As soon as I'd get used to shooting one color, I'd turn into that color. There might have been a warning when it was about to happen, but I have enough trouble playing without reading the chat stuff.

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 12:51:41
yeah some servers use that auto team balance and some don't. I got involved in a very nasty friendly fire incident because of that once upon a time.

i also have some kind of chat bug where none of the other players chat appears on my screen and then at the end of the map it all suddenly whirrs past in one go. very annoying.

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 13:18:38
How do you chat anyway? How do those guys have time to chat? I usually spawn, run to where the action is, get shot, spawn, etc...

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 13:27:39
tut tut...amateurs :cute:

the best thing is trying to chat whilst flying :D

Lurker
19-12-2003, 13:44:29
Do you usually just bounce around servers, KG, or does your clan have one?

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 13:49:53
we used to, but we had a bust up about it and now it's gone :D

i tend to bounce around servers. most of the official ea ones are goodenough for me. There are a couple of uk ones hosted by other clans that i visit, but generally i just try and find a 32 or 24 player server that is 90% full and playing a map i like and just join that

Lurker
19-12-2003, 14:13:49
Yeah, that's what I've been doing. I pay attention to the ping rate too, but generally that's not an issue.

I finally got in a game with a submarine last night, but couldn't figure out how to make the damn thing submerge. So I quit b/c I didn't want to hog the unit while learning.

I also love the way different planes fly handle so differently. Not just bombers vs. fighters, but different fighters, etc. I had gotten fairly used to the quick fighters and hopped in whatever ones they have at Bocage (I think it was Bocage) and crashed on takeoff b/c of lack of speed.

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 14:51:43
I played on the El Alamein map yesterday, what a shit map that is. Targets are so far apart, I spend more time running or driving to the action, than actually fighting.

Lurker
19-12-2003, 15:00:21
That's a good one to learn to fly on, though. Big area with the units spread out gives you room to maneuver without flying out of bounds and also makes it easier to coordinate reading the mini-map with flying so as to avoid fragging your own teammates.

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 15:10:35
I still have to calibrate the joystick correctly.

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 15:12:27
el alemain is a great map! one of the most popular

but you better get your ass in a tank or something if you want to enjoy it

Lurker
19-12-2003, 15:17:35
Drekkus is that little spot walking through the desert miles from anything. And just when he thinks he's almost there, BOOM. Tanks are great.

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 15:57:49
and that is precisely why we must play bf online with drekkus

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 16:32:02
HA! Exactely that kind of underestimating is what I want, so you will be surprised to see your head blown off by the SAS commando ranger cool guy Drekkus.

Lurker
19-12-2003, 16:38:18
I hope that's the profile name you use: ""CoolGuyDrekkus"

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 17:07:32
That or "secret superstealth KillerNinja".

Or just Drek.

So how can I recognize you when I accidently bump into you on of the servers?

King_Ghidra
19-12-2003, 17:12:30
I'm known as Rocco

you may know me as

Rocco [KILLED] Drek
or
Rocco [DefGun] Drek
or
Rocco [Me109] Drek
etc.

Drekkus
19-12-2003, 17:13:57
:lol:

Or:

Rocco is no more


We'll see, we'll see.

Lurker
19-12-2003, 18:56:43
I'm Lurker.

I think Gamespy has a search function for members, but I'm not sure how it works. I couldn't register as Lurker, so I assume the name was taken. I also assume the search function searches for registered names, but maybe not. Maybe it searches for profile names. I don't know.

Wasn't that helpful?

Beta1
22-12-2003, 09:49:05
played a few games yesterday. Flying seems to be easier on my gamepad than on the mouse or keyboard but my joystick is fucked so havnt been able to try that.

Spent a lot of time getting fragged by flyboys but later on managed to catch a sniper in a church tower. Someone else spotted him and I went up the stairs and SMGed him. Very satisfying.

One thing I didnt understand. On one map there was an allied player "Hi, I'm Jesus" who went around as an engineer destroying all the allied vehicles as they respawned. WTF was that all about?

Venom
22-12-2003, 13:24:13
Basically he's what KG was talking about before. A TKer, team killer. The assholes that try and ruin the games for other people.

Beta1
22-12-2003, 13:43:03
Well he succeeded.

And the server had friendly fire turned off so I couldnt even shoot the bastard.

Obviously the allies lost. Its quite hard to win a map with no aircover or armor.

How does the arty work? If I'm sitting as gunner in an arty piece I can switch to the indirect fire view OK bu then what? Do I just line up the gun elevation/rotation lines to the yellow marks and let rip? Was having some problems with a driver who kept turning the whole vehicle around and driving it directly into combat while I was trying to provide arty support for a scout that had called in. Bastard kept driving priests straight at tanks at angles that I couldnt even hit it directly with the gun. Twat.

Another highly amusing incident was when I was manning an AA gun on the top of a hill one of those heavy bombers cruised past - flying upside down. Otherwise it was flying perfectly normally!

Where can I get hold of a submarine. i have only seen one from the air in one of the pacific maps and never found one in single player.

Theres a few things that I find slightly odd in BF though, esp having played CM. Just little details that I find annoying for accuracies sake. Like the brit 25pdr howitzer being used as an AT gun. They want the of the 17pdr AT gun. Or the sherman being missing an MG. Other than thats its good fun, although of course many of the tanks appear in battles that took place before they entered service etc.

Venom
22-12-2003, 13:52:55
Arty is not very good in indirect mode when you're playing online. It takes a scout to spot targets for you and then you go to that view and fire. Since team work is rare on a public server, it's hard for indirect artillery to work correctly. Best to just use it as a slow, lightly armored tank.

Lurker
22-12-2003, 14:36:42
If you're playing with a group that has played a lot together, I've found that people will coordinate and spot artillery. If you don't have an overall strategy (or don't know it, being the outsider), it's tough to be an effective spotter, though, b/c you can never be sure what the next objective is. I don't see how the allies could ever win a map like Omaha Beach against experienced opposition without effective artillery spotting.

Beta, I think subs are only in MP. I posted a few posts back about my experience with one. I couldn't figure out how to make it submerge.

Changing the subject, what's involved in setting up a dedicated server? I've seen the lease costs associated with doing that on gamespy, but apart from the upfront cost of building or buying a pc to be the server, aren't the only costs the monthly cable bill?

Venom
22-12-2003, 14:40:50
Omaha can be won by the allies without indirect fire because you can still hit key points with the ships without being able to really see what you're firing at.

I'm trying to get my friend to set up a dedicated BF server, but he's a little lazy.

Lurker
22-12-2003, 14:42:57
Was I correct about what's needed and the costs?

Lurker
22-12-2003, 14:45:04
BTW, regarding "friend", that's a likely story.

Venom
22-12-2003, 14:47:32
Those costs are pretty much accurate. He already has the server, and the cable line. He just has to set up BF1942 on it.

Lurker
22-12-2003, 14:52:19
We need to get this done. I'd contribute.

Drekkus
22-12-2003, 15:13:13
Yeah, me too. Can we play other games as well? Call of Duty must be really cool in MP mode.

Venom
22-12-2003, 15:36:23
He's not much of a gamer these days so he doesn't own Call of Duty. In any case there's nothing that needs to be contributed. He just needs to not be so damn lazy.

Lurker
22-12-2003, 15:38:00
If you can't "persuade" him to get with it, you'll ruin your image here.

Venom
22-12-2003, 15:38:30
It will happen.

Drekkus
22-12-2003, 15:53:08
Can't we get nav or some other geek ( :p ) to set up a server? What would this server need in hardware?

Lurker
22-12-2003, 16:01:11
Wouldn't we want it done right?

Drekkus
22-12-2003, 16:15:03
yes.

Beta1
22-12-2003, 16:37:07
A CG server - interesting idea

Lurker
22-12-2003, 16:54:37
Yes it is. I'm going to make a map with Rotterdam on it and add nuclear weapons to the mod.

zmama
22-12-2003, 17:06:09
Better get a BIG server...everyone will want to play that map!

Drekkus
22-12-2003, 19:42:45
Originally posted by Lurker
Yes it is. I'm going to make a map with Rotterdam on it and add nuclear weapons to the mod. Cool! There are some buildings I'd like to blow up. The nuke thing would be a bit too drastic though.

Vincent
22-12-2003, 23:19:08
Hey, we DID bomb Rotterdam already!

Beta1
22-12-2003, 23:49:23
Been BF1942ing all night.

Still bottom half of the table but I'm learning some tricks.

like where the sneaky bastard snipers tend to hide. And that berlin is no fun to play as the soviets.

Still find it rather sad that 4-5 players would rather wait for a plane than get stuck in with the grunts.

Got some arty support going on one of the pacific maps. Got the guns on a destroyer and there was actually a scout calling in arty targets. Got the hang of the targetting and was soon blowing the shit out of the japanese runway. Really kept the zeroes out of the sky for a fair length of time. Eventually I got torpedoed by a sub as noone was manning the rest of the ship.

Nice to have a bit of cooperation. have also learnt to sit back and blow the shit out of infantry from a distance.

One thing thats seems odd is that i always (and I mean always) lose in close in firefights between assault troops - is the german MG better, am I shit or are people cheating? I seem to do OK with the medics SMG its just the MG I always lose out with.

Lurker
23-12-2003, 02:09:58
I'm gonna start a five hour session right now (well, as soon as I finish the pork fried rice).

Vincent
23-12-2003, 08:27:23
The most annoying players are the camping snipers. I hate that. I prefer a gung-ho style. Nothing wrong with getting killed with style, as long as it's a game with a good respawning concept like BF1942. I remember watching my AE walking through endless woods in Operation Counterglow ... ah, Flashpoint, of course

Beta1
23-12-2003, 09:59:01
I do a bit of sniping but most of the time I snipe at the snipers as they are the only people who stay still long enough to hit at any range!

Ran into a guy called Freud last night who was a very good sniper. At least till I figured out where he kept camping and rolled over there with a APC and a sub machine gun. Nothing more satisfying than SMGing a camping sniper.

Going to leave work early this afternoon and try and get a few hours in before having to go to my parents tomorrow

Drekkus
23-12-2003, 10:55:03
Originally posted by Beta1
One thing thats seems odd is that i always (and I mean always) lose in close in firefights between assault troops - is the german MG better, am I shit or are people cheating? I seem to do OK with the medics SMG its just the MG I always lose out with. It happens a lot to me too, sometimes I have the feeling their weapon isn't even aimed upwards. But I do win a lot of them as well. I guess some people there have been playing online for over a year now, so they must be pretty good by now.

I need to get the teamwork thingie working. I have no idea what other people are doing, I just try and kill as many enemies before I get killed myself, or maybe hold on to a strongpoint I conquered.

Vincent
23-12-2003, 11:25:22
I guess the pont is not to refine your tactical skills but to try out as many weirdo tactics as you can figure out. Having fun. I wrote a car chase map for OPF. I remember there was another map where a guy had to flee from helicopters, that was fun.

Venom
23-12-2003, 13:17:39
Originally posted by Vincent
The most annoying players are the camping snipers. I hate that. I prefer a gung-ho style. Nothing wrong with getting killed with style, as long as it's a game with a good respawning concept like BF1942. I remember watching my AE walking through endless woods in Operation Counterglow ... ah, Flashpoint, of course

When they camp at the flags that can't be captured and just sit on the armor repair area and shoot at everything. THAT SHIT PISSES ME OFF!

Lurker
23-12-2003, 15:11:28
On the Stalingrad map last night in a CTF game, we had the middle spawn point and someone on the other team kept standing there and grenading the spawn point every spawn time. He never ran out of grenades b/c an ammo box was right next to him. I thought that was ok, and actually pretty clever, b/c we still had the main spawn point to use.

It seems to me the good servers won't let you spawn camp at an uncaptureable base.

Drekkus
23-12-2003, 16:25:59
How could you keep spawning there if that guy was standing there? If he stands there after he grenaded you once, the spawn is his, isn't it?

Beta1
23-12-2003, 16:47:20
Well I'm off to the EAUK servers now!

Lurker
23-12-2003, 17:05:46
Drekkus: I'm not sure exactly where he was standing. I'm going to have to study the map in SP. I seem to recall there's a reload spot that might be close enough to throw grenades but not change the flag. It's a small area, so you have to get pretty close to change the flag to gray.

Venom
23-12-2003, 17:10:44
You can sit within killing distance of flags and not capture.

Vincent
23-12-2003, 17:30:29
Exactly my idea of having fun :rolleyes:

Lurker
23-12-2003, 19:54:08
I'd have a big problem with it if it was the only spawn point, but it wasn't. We took him out in pretty short order.

I joined a game earlier that was down to about 50 kills left for the team I joined. I spawned in the only available spawn point and got blown up. I spawned again and got blown up. I did it two more times and never even found out where it was coming from. I never fired a shot, never took more than three steps, got killed four times, and quit. The part that pissed me off was it was clear the game was over. They should have gone for the last flag since it was captureable and gotten it over with, plus it would have been at least a slight bit more of a challenge.

Drekkus
29-12-2003, 09:58:23
So, now the holidays are pretty much over, when will we be playing an online game? Or are we waiting for Venom's 'friend' to set up a server?

Venom
29-12-2003, 13:55:13
After Lurker's comments you guys can just go fuck off. No server for you.

Nav
29-12-2003, 17:06:41
Originally posted by Drekkus
Can't we get nav or some other geek ( :p ) to set up a server? What would this server need in hardware? Thanks twat. :p

It would cost quite a bit. Too much for the amount we would probably use it. I'd say minimum 1200 a year.

On the other hand if somebody on cable or adsl with a fast pc can set up a server (ie only for when we want to play) we could do it that way.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 17:35:10
Originally posted by Venom
After Lurker's comments you guys can just go fuck off. No server for you.

Translation: Venom's "friend" was a fantasy.

Venom
29-12-2003, 18:49:48
Keep trying to get Nav to help you. I surely won't.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 19:46:57
Bastard.

Venom
29-12-2003, 19:58:13
No. You're the bastard.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 20:20:37
So get your friend to hop to it so you can take it out on me with a Sherman tank.

BigGameHunter
29-12-2003, 20:49:17
I'd buy this if we could get a CG team together...even though it sounds like Diablo in jump boots.

Venom
29-12-2003, 21:10:44
Originally posted by Lurker
So get your friend to hop to it so you can take it out on me with a Sherman tank.

After your disparaging comments? I don't think so.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 21:13:10
What disparaging comments?

We should stop this now before it gets any lamer.

Venom
29-12-2003, 21:22:54
No. Let's make it even lamer.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 21:29:02
There will be no song quotes or German in this thread. Now stop it! and get your sorry-assed friend into gear.

BigGameHunter
29-12-2003, 21:29:23
Jeezus, Venom...quite being such a pussy.

Lurker
29-12-2003, 21:31:07
It's the new Venom. The Christmas spirit got to him.

BGH: this is a great game, but make sure your system can handle it before purchasing. Or else purchase it and then use that as an excuse to upgrade the system.

Venom
30-12-2003, 00:41:17
No. I'm not a pussy. I'm just punishing you bitches for your lack of respect. So suck my hairy gooch and like it.

Shining1
30-12-2003, 02:00:14
Still find it rather sad that 4-5 players would rather wait for a plane than get stuck in with the grunts.

Ahhh LOUVE the smell of Smacktards in the moorning!!

BigGameHunter
30-12-2003, 06:18:04
Hmmm...my system is pretty weak nowadays... :
W98 II
566 MHZ Cellaron
256 Megs

Enough?

Drekkus
30-12-2003, 10:58:06
Originally posted by Venom
No. I'm not a pussy. I'm just punishing you bitches for your lack of respect. So suck my hairy gooch and like it. Just admit it, your 'friend' doesn't have a server.

Drekkus
30-12-2003, 10:59:14
MINIMUM CONFIGURATION
- 500 MHz CPU
- 128 Megabytes of RAM
- 3D accelerated 32 MB video card or equivalent with HTL and a 24-bit z-buffer
- 160 MB free hard disk space plus space for saved games
- 16X Speed CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
- DirectX 8 Compatible Sound Card
- MS compatible mouse
- Keyboard
Recommended
- 800 MHz CPU
- 256 Megabytes of RAM
- 3D accelerated 64 MB video card or equivalent with HTL and a 24-bit z-buffer
- 160 MB free hard disk space plus space for saved games
- 16X Speed CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
- DirectX 8 Compatible Sound Card
- MS compatible mouse
- Keyboard

Required Operating Systems:

- Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows XP or Windows 2000 Note that Windows 95 is not supported

Venom
30-12-2003, 13:15:46
Originally posted by Drekkus
Just admit it, your 'friend' doesn't have a server.

He certainly does. Just sitting there. Not doing anything.

BigGameHunter
30-12-2003, 16:11:34
Looks like I could just do it...not sure about the video though.

Venom
30-12-2003, 16:23:28
Are those the minimum specs for running the game? If so you'd probably want a bit more than that for a dedicated server.

Nav
30-12-2003, 17:49:03
Yeah like a multi-threaded P4 2ghz. with 512mb of RAM, and a lot of bandwidth...

Lurker
30-12-2003, 17:57:43
I gots me all of that.

Shining1
31-12-2003, 07:00:16
Bandwidth might be important for a dedicated server. Since there's no graphical capacity I doubt that processor power and memory will be significant issues...

Vincent
31-12-2003, 08:26:35
Originally posted by Nav
Yeah like a multi-threaded P4 2ghz. with 512mb of RAM, and a lot of bandwidth... :D

Beta1
04-01-2004, 22:11:22
Have decided I'm an engineer most of the time.

Was playing one of the pacific maps - I think Iwo Jima or Wake as the japanese and we had almost pushed the yanks off the island a couple of times but some wanker in a jeep would go flying through our lines and steal one of the flags at the ends of the arms of the island.

After the third time I got pissed off and laid 2 lines of det packs about 5m apart across the road from the airbase and a set of mines either side.

2 minutes later the wanker tries it again but this time finds him and his jeep flying through the air before landing in a burning wreck.

I love it when a plan comes together.

Vincent
05-01-2004, 17:36:38
That's a plan?!?!?

Beta1
05-01-2004, 17:37:30
Also is it just me or does Omaha Beach often crash? I have played on the eauk servers a fair bit now and have only once managed to get all the way through omaha without it crashing the server. ( I know its not me because if I log back into the same server its started a different map and everyone has been kicked off.

Lurker
05-01-2004, 18:34:12
Originally posted by Vincent
That's a plan?!?!?

Hehehe. By my standards, that's a brilliant plan.

Beta: I've played Omaha Beach to conclusion, but I can't remember which server or servers it was on.

BTW, how do you make the det pack explode once you've placed it on a vehicle? I never play as an engineer, but I picked up the engineer's stuff after running out of antitank ammo in a game yesterday. I was useless, though, b/c I kept planting them on a nearby tank, and nothing happened. And then I got killed. :D

Beta1
05-01-2004, 20:11:53
plant the explosives then right click to bring up the plunger. Left click then detonates. very effective against things like Stugs where theres no turret and Tigers where theres no top MG

Lurker
08-01-2004, 19:46:46
So has this idea for a CG BF 1942 killing orgy been completely sabotaged? If so, is it because of the all-too-predictable forum laziness or can we blame Venom?

I played on-line last night for the first time in over a week. I had a guy caught swimming across stream towards me and as I was moving close to the edge of the wall that went along the river (so I could see him to shoot him), I fell in. He was closer to the bank at that point and got out and shot me. Then he laughed at me.

This amusing little anecdote brought to you by "Retards at Play", showing weekly following "Survivor."

Venom
08-01-2004, 20:12:17
I haven't played in like three weeks. So feel free to blame me.

Drekkus
08-01-2004, 21:20:14
yeah. I bought this game especially for a CG bloodmatch.

Lurker
08-01-2004, 21:35:22
How many do we have that will play?

Lurker
Drekkus
Venom
Beta1
KG
KG@home
Vincent

People who I'm not sure about:

Pilsnr
Shining

Plus BGH if we ever get this off the ground.

So as you can see, even with a little cheating on the count, we'll need to recruit some people. I don't know why Frunko won't play. He's high up on the "want to kill" list.

Drekkus
08-01-2004, 21:43:01
i'd like to play kg and kg@home at the same time.

Chairman Yang
09-01-2004, 08:20:03
I'd play if I had cable. But I don't.

Darkstar
09-01-2004, 08:25:15
I've got cable. But not Battlefield 1942.

Chairman Yang
09-01-2004, 10:06:44
You can have my, its real and all.

Darkstar
09-01-2004, 10:10:09
Thank you for the offer, but I've got enough to do right now.

Venom
09-01-2004, 13:22:35
My "friend" will play.

King_Ghidra
09-01-2004, 13:26:09
:lol:

oh stop it

Beta1
09-01-2004, 13:30:12
Lurker - which server were you on. If it was an EAUK one it could have been me that shot you.

Had some fun basejumping of arnhem bridge last night. Playing as Allies went over the bridge, parachuted off halfway and swum to the shore. Got round the back of the axis base with the help of a friendly fly-boy who took out a couple of guys who came my way. Then sat up in the barn at the back telling the rest of my team which bridge the axis tanks were going to and occasionally landmining the place.

After about 5 minutes one of our planes got shot down and the pilot parachuted down fairly close. We metup and caused a bit of havoc around their base before stealing a Tiger and a Wespe and cruising back to our lines.

Then spent the rest of the match whacking artillery rounds into the bridges.

Later on ended up on a US omaha beach server where some twat wrecked the game by driving the allied cruiser miles off shore (but not out of the map totally) and then just sitting there with the other turrent guns facing the wrong way.

Scored about 2-3 kills for 0 deaths then nothing happened apart from a lot of chat

One question - what are the other figures on the score card.

I know one of the first 2 are kills but not which one. The other I have no idea, then its deaths, ping, player number right?

Beta1
09-01-2004, 13:31:28
We could all just join a public server on the same side and get our arses kicked.

I can just see it - [CG] Lurker

Lurker
09-01-2004, 13:52:38
That's good in theory, but it's hard to find a public server with enough open slots, unless no one is playing at all. In which case, there wouldn't be any opposition.

Beta: I sometimes play on EAUK servers, but you would know it's me b/c I play as Lurker. Who are you?

Beta1
09-01-2004, 14:24:05
Beta1.

Not hard to spot. I'm normally the guy covering everything bridge and road with landmines then swearing as my own side drive over htem and ruin my carefully constructed defense.

I find that theres normally 1 EAUK server with noone on it at most times. Its one of those things where once a few people start it fills up.

Greg W
09-01-2004, 14:26:02
I play too, though not often, and not particularly well. Just the kind of Cannon Fodder you need, right? :D

King_Ghidra
09-01-2004, 15:12:25
beta the first score is like overall score, i.e. [kills + capture points] - suicides, teamkills, etc. This is the one the game ranks you on.

the second is your kills total without any subtractions

the third is the number of time you've been killed

So in other words if i kill 10 people, capture 2 flags (2pts each), and die five times my score on the board would be :

14 10 5

Vincent
09-01-2004, 23:16:39
But usually it's 0 0 207 ?!?!

Vincent
09-01-2004, 23:18:38
Originally posted by Lurker
How many do we have that will play?

Lurker
Drekkus
Venom
Beta1
KG
KG@home
Vincent
OK

King_Ghidra
10-01-2004, 13:43:55
Originally posted by Drekkus
i'd like to play kg and kg@home at the same time.

it will feel like you are

:shoot:

Venom
10-01-2004, 14:10:49
Because you'll be displaying twice the usual incompetence.

Vincent
10-01-2004, 15:25:09
2 * 0 = 0

Scabrous Birdseed
10-01-2004, 15:45:15
Originally posted by Drekkus
i'd like to play kg and kg@home at the same time.

:brwncard:

Scabrous Birdseed
10-01-2004, 15:47:04
dp

Scabrous Birdseed
10-01-2004, 15:47:25
And I don't mean "double post".

Greg W
11-01-2004, 01:13:25
In a "dvda" sense? :eek:

Scabrous Birdseed
11-01-2004, 13:05:15
I'm not sure drekkus has a v.

Greg W
11-01-2004, 20:02:30
I don't want to think about it. Was just making sure I had the right context is all.

Lurker
12-01-2004, 16:24:23
I was about two-thirds through a great game yesterday and the Dutch girl had a temper tantrum b/c I was "playing video games instead of paying attention to me." So I had to quit. Damn women.

Beta1
12-01-2004, 16:43:43
I was having fun sniping plane campers yesterday.

I really hate being sniped and so normally I only snipe other snipers (as they deserve it) but yesterday I was in a game where some wanker was just repeatedly bombing our spawn point (an uncapturable one at that) so I decided to take out my frustration on a few plane campers. So I wandered over to the axis base, took up position way up on the hills behind the runway and started plugging away. I got a few kills then one of our guys got off the ground and started strafing their base. A few people tried to shoot him down using the APC MG but they were easy targets so I plugged them.

Someone finall posted "Sniper at base". So I replied "took you long enough to realise" and decided to leave them alone for a bit.

Just then I heard a knife drawn behind me, spun round and fired. And nailed this guy straight between the eyes. Then I buggered off only to run straight into a couple of his friends about 200m away and got killed...

Still fun while it lasted.

That and ramming a japanese cruiser so hard I nearly rolled it over...

Lurker
12-01-2004, 17:08:31
I was playing on Wake as the allies. It seemed like a fairly uncoordinated game and I started out by simply defending one of the distant outposts by myself. Many players have a tendency to try to take those control points by themselves, and they are usually easy pickings for someone defending since the approaches are so visible. Then we lost the airfield control point, so I abandoned my post to help retake that. We retook it and I lucked into a plane. Got a few kills and got shot down. Re-spawned at the airfield control point and NO ONE was defending it, so I grabbed the tank and spent the rest of my time defending the control point. Many kills as the axis players kept trying to steal airplanes.

I like the Wake map b/c I play it so much on solo and know it well. There are a lot of maps that I rarely play and it makes a huge difference when you try one of those games.

Beta: what did you ram the cruiser with?

King_Ghidra
12-01-2004, 18:10:29
his ego

:lol: :p

Beta1
12-01-2004, 18:32:40
LOL.

A US destroyer.

Not quite big enough!

You should try it though.

Just try and hit it sideways on and at flank speed. On a destroyer v destroyer incident you can normally roll the other guy right over before his guns get you.

On planetbattlefield I saw a clip of someone try and roll a carrier with a battlesip - nearly managed it too!

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 15:05:59
OK, so how about an online game next sunday, evening time in europe, so ealy afternoon in the states.

Anyway available?

Venom
14-01-2004, 16:00:56
What day is that? The 18th?

Lurker
14-01-2004, 17:04:29
There's an efficient way to find out what day it is. Just post the question on the internet. That almost deserves a rolleyes. :D

Anyway, I will try to make it work for me if there is enough interest.

I played a good bit yesterday beginning late afternoon. I was playing on a server that only uses the Wake map, and some asshole kept getting in the carrier and taking it off the map at the start of the games. What people get out of being such idiots is beyond me.

King_Ghidra
14-01-2004, 17:11:36
normally it's the frustration and anger they cause in others

makes them feel powerful

that's why flaming these people is totally counter-productive. Just immediately leave the server.

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 17:21:10
Oh, and I don't want to play the Wake map. :D

;)

So, Lurker maybe for sunday the 18th of march?

Lurker
14-01-2004, 17:32:39
What year?

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 18:11:11
march? Did I say march? what the hell is wrong with me? vacation planning is getting to me I guess.

January 18, sunday.

Lurker
14-01-2004, 18:29:28
And here I thought that was a feeble attempt to throw me off track.

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 19:54:48
It will probably be you and me at best, so good would that be?

Lurker
14-01-2004, 20:00:06
I am going to leave work early today (like in ten minutes). I think I'll play for the rest of the day, until around 8:15 or so my time.

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 22:06:34
so what server are you playing now?

Drekkus
14-01-2004, 22:23:29
hm, I've been checking a lot of servers on the wake map, but no lurker. Asshat.

Beta1
14-01-2004, 22:44:52
I'm up for sunday.

Might try and track lurker down now though!

Lurker
15-01-2004, 12:44:08
I forget which server I played on, but it wasn't one of the EAUK ones. I also couldn't get on any of those that were playing the Wake map (although mine eventually rotated into it).

One of the problems I have communicating with these forums when I am playing is that I don't know how to put the game in the background without quitting.

Drekkus
15-01-2004, 17:01:14
doesn't alt-tab work?

Beta1
15-01-2004, 17:13:41
On mine I have to have something else running in the backgroud to alt-tab to - if I just switch to the desktop the mouse pointer dissapears and i cant do anything. If I have IE or outlook running i can switch directly to that and everythings fine.

Will try and play tonight - I will be on one of the EAUK servers, I'll try for the eastern front server but failing that either the european or pacific theatre server. I tend to avoid the fan favs or the single map ones (I hate the phillipines one).

My favourite are the eastern front city maps. Berlin is fun (assuming your not playing a group of asshats thats steal both T34s - then your screwed). Stalingrad is my favourite though - its a very winnable map from either side and has plenty of potential for ground pounding assault troopers (finished about 15-13-5 on stalingrad the other day and came 3rd in the axis list probably my best ever). I just love going after snipers who always go to the same places. I got accused of cheating by one idiot after I killed him 3 times in a row. Well if your such an idiot that as a sniper you go straight back to the same place where you just got killed twice your going to get killed again and again. Seemed to think I was map-hacking just because he thought he couldnt be seen. Well I couldnt see him but there is ALWAYS a sniper on the top floor of that ruined building with a ladder up the backwall and it doesnt take 5 seconds to go and check if your passing....

I've only been playing a couple of weeks and I already know if you sit on the obvious sniping points you will either get grenaded, shot or sniped almost everytime.

Top of the church on market garden, windmill on bocage etc. They all seem to think they are invisible.

Lurker
15-01-2004, 18:07:01
I had a ton of fun yesterday on a big omaha beach game. As the Axis, you can get a lot of kills on the stationary machine guns at the beginning, but it never takes long for a sniper to take you out.

Beta1
15-01-2004, 19:43:36
I like that map too - again though its a case of sniping from somewhere unexpected.

Can be very fun it the allies get their act together and get some proper arty support going.

Darkstar
15-01-2004, 20:21:04
Humm... if you forget to put something else before starting up BF, try hitting your "Start Menu" key. (The Start menu should then pop up, and you can then start whatever you want.) That often works in such conditions (in Alt+Tab -able games that will tab, if you have something else open).

Beta1
15-01-2004, 22:30:15
That doesnt seem to work either - its like BF still has control of all the input devices.

Sean
15-01-2004, 22:37:23
I like to shut down explorer.exe for playing games. Just Ctrl-Alt-Delete once I’m done and start it all up again.

Venom
15-01-2004, 23:45:03
Format your machine. Start all over.

Venom
17-01-2004, 15:51:51
So exactly what time are we shooting for tomorrow?

Lurker
17-01-2004, 17:33:11
I don't know, ask Drekkus. I just got off of a laggy EAUK server. Gonna find another one for the rest of the afternoon.

Beta1
18-01-2004, 11:07:13
are you guys all on gamespy too?

My girlfriend has invited people round this evening so i might be out of circulation

Drekkus
18-01-2004, 23:27:01
Aaaaah, yes, the big bf shootout. There were other plans that got in the way. But I'm still up for a game. Anyone in?

Beta1
19-01-2004, 13:04:56
yep if you guys can get your acts together!

Venom
19-01-2004, 13:39:43
Great planning there dumbasses.

King_Ghidra
19-01-2004, 14:53:32
Originally posted by Beta1
are you guys all on gamespy too?


*spit* no i use All Seeing Eye

Lurker
19-01-2004, 16:45:43
Originally posted by Venom
Great planning there dumbasses.

Hey, I played.

Beta, there was a "Beta-Pritchard" or something like that the other day in one of my games. I assume it wasn't you.

Beta1
19-01-2004, 17:12:31
you assume right.

I'm just Beta1.

Look for the guy flying into the trees and you'll find me - I really am a shit pilot. Its usually followed by "arse the joystick wasnt plugged in".

I'm definately improving, I'm getting quite useful on the city based maps. On the other hand it might just be the large number of christmas newbies who think they are invisible sitting on the second floor of a building blazing away with machine guns. They are usually very suprised when someone walks up behind them and kills them very dead.

Got 3 wannabe snipers in 1 minute last night. 3 of them all lieing on the top of a ruined building I came up the ladder on the other side of the ruin and shot all three - the second 2 didnt even react when I shot the guy right next to them.

Lurker
20-01-2004, 20:49:14
K_G caught holding out on us, the bastard. Never having heard of All Seeing Eye, I checked it out and it's a freeware browser that you can set up to show all the BF1942 game servers everywhere. (You can use it for other games, too.) Among the good features is a buddy tracker, which would certainly help locate each other.

I'll install it tomorrow at home and see how it works. There are some technical issues that you need to pay attention to, though. See HERE (http://www.udpsoft.com/forum/topic.cgi?forum=2&topic=2032) for example.

Nav
20-01-2004, 21:38:22
Freeware? I thought it was 15 day shareware??

Lurker
20-01-2004, 21:39:50
Yeah, shareware. I misspoke. I've got to quit using computer terminology.

Nav
24-01-2004, 11:40:37
Seems I've been using mine for 300 days now....

However it gave me another 7 days grace. :D

btw I finally managed to get it to play lastnight (that is list the servers properly).

I'm on ASE as Pulped

Lurker
28-01-2004, 21:24:10
:lol: I stole this link from a clan forum, who stole it from some other clan's forum. Pretty funny stuff (http://www.unconventional-airsoft.com/information/handSignals.php)

Lurker
10-02-2004, 14:18:40
Played for about 5 hours last night on Omaha Beach. That's such a great map for teamwork on both sides. Best game was as undermanned axis desperately, yet very effectively, defending the back control point.

In other games, as allies, we had some whiners and moaners about axis tanks on the beach. The problem, though, was people who don't know what to do with the battleship taking the helm, scouts not scouting properly, and big gunners not looking at the frigging map when unleashing barrages.

I also found out I don't like the idea of TK timeouts when your own teammates don't pay attention to your landmines. Dumbasses.

Beta1
10-02-2004, 14:34:28
yeah that does suck.

I dont like seeing axis tanks on the beach either. General camping in an uncapturable spawn just to boost their score.

Mostly though it just makes the map pointless. Theres 2 total choke point that can be easily controlled if you keep the tanks on the first ridge and a few of people who know what they are doing can hold off anything.

EG if your an engineer lay exppacks on the ramp up to the back base and man one of the nearby MG nests. Next time a jeep comes through making a run for the back base BOOM.

Also one of the bunkers has a field of fire directly at the top of the main ramp up but cannot be hit from anywhere on the beach.

Another nice trick is if your axis and a medic you can slide down the hill between the 2nd and 3rd line and recap the flag.

Final trick - when they are trying to take the middle flag the allies always seem to try and lie down just on the parapet just far enough down the slope that you cant see them from the firing step. Only it doesnt work - I normally kill at least 4 people there on any time round omaha.

Lurker
10-02-2004, 16:51:53
The tank was at beach level, but not sitting at the flag. I doubt it was within the zone of control for the flag, but I can't say for sure b/c I don't know how far the zone extended in that direction. Either way, the big guns should have handled it, but there was no coordination. Of course, coordination is always difficult in public server games. When you have cooperative people playing, there is a tendency to "overcorrect" deficiencies. Boat's in trouble and someone says "need engineers", and suddenly you've got ten engineers and no one attacking. Someone says "too many scouts" and the next thing you know you don't have any.

When I played as allies and lost, it inevitably seemed to be b/c the battleship captain didn't know what to do. Sometimes someone would take that position and not move the boat, despite desperate please from teammates to do so. I assume it was just someone without experience. Next game someone else took the pilot's position and even moved the boat out of sight of the axis guns. Unfortunately, he grounded it in a position where only the front gun could be used and then only to bombard the landing point.

Personally, I never take the helm b/c I'm afraid of doing what the last guy did and grounding the boat. You can't seem to tell where the shallow areas are.

I think the hardest thing on that map is for the allies to get to the back capture point. That street is a death zone. Put the tank at the end of the street with a steady supply of engineers, mine and xpack the approaches, man the machine gun around the corner, load up with anti-tanks and make sure someone is watching the steps halfway up the street, and you've got a difficult defense to counter. Add the second tank if someone has the foresight to bring it back before losing the control point and the allies have an almost impossible task.

Beta1
11-02-2004, 09:40:43
only if you attack that one last - the way I most frequently see axis lose is when a jeep gets past the front line and steals the rear flag. Then that street works the other way. Also did you know you can go round the side of the map behind the fence on the east side?

Drekkus
11-02-2004, 09:44:42
Damn, you guys actually do real team play and stuff. I haven't played much online, less than 10 times I think. I just run around and get shot.

Venom
11-02-2004, 14:20:07
If the Axis starts clogging the street, go through the hole in fence in force while part of your team keeps the Germans busy in the street.

Lurker
11-02-2004, 14:49:55
Beta: I didn't know that, but I assume you have to do it by going up behind the buildings on the west and then rear, no? If so, it would be tough to get past the corner mg unkilled, or at least unnoticed.

Venom: are you talking about the break in the fence that lets you go from the street almost right into the flag area? Tough enough just getting to that point "in force," but if you do it's guaranteed a good team will have a couple people behind the fence waiting, plus the APC locked and loaded on that spot.

Drekkus: that's me, too, on just about any server where there's no semblance of teamwork. It's so much more fun to play as a team, though. I've picked up a lot since I began playing, but I'm still a newbie.

Venom
11-02-2004, 14:56:18
It's divide and conquer my man. If you've got the trenches captured you should be able to muster up enough men to make a solid assault on both fronts. Hell me and my friend can get through that hole and the two of us can almost take the whole area. It's all about timing, teamwork, and preferrably one guy with a rocket launcher.

Lurker
11-02-2004, 15:04:25
Hehe, while two lonely axis slide down the hill and grey your flag. Then it's all or nothing. Crazy things do happen, though.

Venom
11-02-2004, 15:07:32
That's why it's a play balanced game.

Beta1
11-02-2004, 15:10:39
lurker - if your standing on the left hand ramp to the beach (ie right side for the allies coming off the beach infront of you are 2 MG pillboxes on the ramp up to the street. If you go between them theres a fence stopping you going any further, follow the fence until you start getting the "out of bounds" warning, the fence turns 90 degrees left then runs straight for some distance. Keep moving and you can get past the the fence before the out of bounds starts hurting you. This brings you out behind the buildings on the right hand side of the street. From here you can move up all the way to the point where the road turns left without going onto the street itself. Its often possible to get from here to the house that faces down the inital bit of the street without getting seriously killed. If the allies can hold this area behind the houses the axis are screwed as the allied assaulters can reach that final street in force and will kill anyone on the MG very quickly. It also means you can drive the sherman right up to the break in the fence as any tank that comes round the corner presents at least a side shot to the allied troops in the building.

If your axis you can use this route in the other direction to take those MGs and cut off the troops in the street from support. You dont usually hold them for long but it can be very productive. I scneaked round there one game and manned the MG for about 10 seconds before getting shot. In that 10 secs I took out 5 allied grunts who were caught side on in the middle of the road about 10m away. If your smart you fire a burst and hopefully kill people then leg it into one of the bunkers rear alcoves before a grenade comes through the slit. Often you can kill the guy who comes to check the bunker is clear too.