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MDA
03-11-2003, 19:59:35
too lazy to find and bump the old one

doesn't the new version differ enough from the old that it really deserves to be an entirely different story? Man creates the cylons, one of the characters has switched sex. Relationships are going to change between characters due to the sex change thing...

The only reason to call it Battlestar Galactica is "brand loyalty" and from what people involved are saying - the brand loyal folks are going to be disappointed.

BigGameHunter
03-11-2003, 21:44:05
Well, after the utter disaster that was Star Wars I, II and probably III, why bother getting your hopes up anymore.

I'm still fuming from the horrendous, aborted Riverworld attempt. Argh.

MDA
03-11-2003, 21:48:47
I was afraid to watch that. It seemed too complex to translate to film.

So complex I only read a little. :o

BigGameHunter
03-11-2003, 22:00:05
Pussy.

Rodgers
05-11-2003, 16:33:10
I read a few of the books and just got bored

MOBIUS
16-11-2003, 14:07:41
Not so long ago they had a Battlestar Galactica series marathon on one of the satellite channels - ahhh heaven!:)

Venom
17-11-2003, 13:37:31
Ain't it cool has a review up of any early copy. Sounds horrible.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16490

And dammit, that's MY old thread you don't want to bump, fucktard.

MDA
17-11-2003, 21:41:43
Its not that I didn't want to bump it, I just didn't want to go looking for it.

Venom
18-11-2003, 00:36:23
You're a goddamn bastard.

Darkstar
18-11-2003, 02:04:53
:lol:

Hey, the producers have been saying... Don't watch it! Right? Now you know why...

jsorense
10-12-2003, 16:26:47
I watched it and thought it was OK. However I never saw the first one so I didn't have any preconceptions about what the characters should be.

Funkodrom
10-12-2003, 16:35:09
Is it worth spending our lives watching stuff that is only OK? :)

Venom
10-12-2003, 16:38:51
Hell no. I need quality shows like The OC, Angel, 24, and Dinner and a Movie....oops.

Oh and the Chick Cylon was HOT!

jsorense
10-12-2003, 20:29:31
Some of the space combat scenes were OK too.
Sometimes, Funkodrom, OK is good enough for me.;)

BigGameHunter
10-12-2003, 21:12:46
That's the new American motto, by the way.

jsorense
10-12-2003, 23:57:17
Ummmmmm, :gotit:. yeah, I knew that.:beer:

BigGameHunter
11-12-2003, 00:22:00
"OK is good enough for me!"

jsorense
11-12-2003, 00:27:36
[cough]misquote[cough];)

Funko
01-09-2006, 15:06:38
got this on DVD and really liking it so far.

The MiniSeries set up the story really well. Am now 5 episodes into season 1 and it's been generally excellent. Great cast, quite believable characters and backstory. Really fast paced but allowing decent character development.

Chris
01-09-2006, 15:49:03
It generally stays good all the way through, there are a few avaerage episodes, not many.

Sir Penguin
01-09-2006, 16:52:18
That AICN article is hilarious.

SP

JM^3
01-09-2006, 17:13:46
I like teh show, I bought 1.5 seasons of DVD, and will get he second half of the 2nd season also. A lot better than Drek in the last decade.

JM

Lazarus and the Gimp
02-09-2006, 12:40:44
I was hugely impressed by it. Although the Gaius character makes me want to kick in the screen, it's an excellent story that gets even better in series 2.

It tackles the big issues, dude. Series 2 has a major story arc about the banning of abortion.

Chris
02-09-2006, 13:51:37
Baltar is more annoying in season two.

Not just abortion, torture, rape, eugenics and several other subjects besides the ongoing religion sub plot are covered.

Kitsuki
21-09-2006, 15:22:51
I have only just got into this, and I'm absolutely loving it. Think I will pick up the DVDs.

King_Ghidra
21-09-2006, 16:00:07
I loved the mini-series but i just can't get bring myself to start ploughing through the 1st full series. Good stuff though.

JM^3
21-09-2006, 16:15:45
Is the second half of the second season out in DVD yet?

JM

Venom
21-09-2006, 17:11:00
Yes

Lazarus and the Gimp
22-09-2006, 19:30:54
Good though it is, I can't help feeling that all those survivors in the colonial fleet are really taking the total annihilation of their families and friends rather well. Where's all the people coming apart at the seams and getting traumatised?

If I'd written it, it would have been the most harrowing TV serial ever.

Foetus
22-09-2006, 23:57:37
That was the original though, surely?

The Shaker
24-09-2006, 13:21:46
Yeah I've also been getting into this and think it's great.
Just started on season 2 mind you

maroule
02-10-2006, 15:08:45
I just started season one, on the back of this thread and various friends recommending it

It's pretty good indeed! I agree with Laz, there's a lack of despair/harrowing memories about the holocaust. As usual, there is also a lack of coherence about the details of what future societies should look like and work like (in everyday life, from how they eat to how they burry their deads, it's all too similar to today: for a culture that has been space faring for at least a century, you'd think some things would have changed // but that's a common gripe, and it's much cheaper to depict a society with old fashion cans, paint tin pots and glass bottles than invent what packaging will look like in the future)

Acting is consistently good, most characters are suitably ambivalent, Gaius is irritating but also very enjoyable (my fav so far), etc.

Funko
02-10-2006, 15:10:39
I could have guessed you'd like Gaius. :lol:

Did you get the mini-series?

Lazarus and the Gimp
02-10-2006, 15:24:28
I'm about three-quarters through series 2, and it's getting heavier. Child abuse, prison rape, the ethics of militarism.

It makes "Lost" look like a documentary about dust.

Funko
02-10-2006, 15:30:26
His Dark Materials?

maroule
02-10-2006, 15:34:51
Originally posted by Funko
Did you get the mini-series?

I don't know what the mini series are: I got what I think is the season one, from the long pilot episode with the destruction of capricia, to episode 5 or 6 that I'm watching right now (Starbucks becoming flight instructor)

Gaius is great indeed :D

I just haven't decided what game the hot cylon is really playing (I don't want any spoilers or actual answers, of course). Her fixation on religion and God is quite interesting: I'd never thought (or seen in other scfi work) the idea that AI would/could become religious... but thinking about it, why not... (although they already have a clearly identified maker)

Funko
02-10-2006, 15:37:23
The really long pilot episode is the mini-series... in the US version that came packaged with the season 1 boxed set (sounds like what you got), in the UK version I had to buy the mini-series seperately. At least, that was what they had on Play/Amazon.

I really like Gaius too. :o

Kitsuki
02-10-2006, 16:28:41
I like how they really play off people being on Roslin / Adama's side. I suspect that pretty evenly splits the viewership's opinion... I'm always rooting for President Roslin...

Lazarus and the Gimp
02-10-2006, 19:51:16
That might change.

Lazarus and the Gimp
02-10-2006, 19:54:11
Originally posted by maroule

Gaius is great indeed :D



That's so wilfully perverse it's almost French. No disrespect to the actor (who's doing a good job) but the character is a thunderous great bell end. And it's only a very minor spoiler to point out that he gets caught shagging a table at one point.

Funko
03-10-2006, 07:52:32
:lol: That's one of my favourite bits of the first series.

I like him because he's such a thunderous great bell end. It's refreshing to have someone who is so self centred, with so few redeeming features as a major focal point of a lot of the stories.

maroule
03-10-2006, 08:00:20
he is so treacherous, slimmy, sex crazed, egotistical, intellectual, vain and atheist he should be made honorary French

Tizzy
03-10-2006, 08:28:27
:lol:

Chris
03-10-2006, 16:10:22
For the USA, new episodes start this friday at 9 on the sci fi channel.

Funko
03-10-2006, 16:14:54
Can you start a new thread for season 3 discussion (or keep spoilers to a minimum...)

Chris
04-10-2006, 05:13:50
Sure.

Funko
04-10-2006, 08:04:08
Great, thanks. Can you make sure I don't read it too? :D

Chris
05-10-2006, 21:05:21
Yes.

From now on, if you read it, Lurker and Mr g will come to your house and stay all week.

And Venom will take a giant crap that will clog your toilet for months.

So read it at your own risk.

Funko
06-10-2006, 08:19:55
WOO!

MOBIUS
06-10-2006, 08:51:43
Saw an awesome Episode two one on Sky on Weds!

maroule
09-10-2006, 08:49:53
In the middle of season two, and it's getting even better now

some minor logical holes here and there (I love how a space jumping civilisation use old tape recorders to record speeches), but thoroughly enjoyable. It does make Lost look like pretty inconsequential

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
09-10-2006, 20:11:17
Dude, Lost make Lost look inconsequential. TV FTL.

BigGameHunter
10-10-2006, 02:03:21
Lost haters beware...there is a fanatic in your midst!

Venom
10-10-2006, 02:27:43
I used to be a fanatic. After that craptastic season premiere Weds, I've officially put it on the 3 and out list. It's got 3 more episodes to do something entertaining or it's out.

BigGameHunter
10-10-2006, 02:31:00
What was wrong with that episode?
You want the truth?
You can't handle the truth!!!

Venom
10-10-2006, 02:53:04
Same shit, different episode.

The flashback format is wearing thin. The writing sucks. Nothing ever happens on the show, except MAYBE in the last 5 minutes. Already a shadow of it's former self.

BigGameHunter
10-10-2006, 03:36:15
Bah!

On the other hand, I might have to get this BSG.

Venom
10-10-2006, 03:48:23
You should.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
10-10-2006, 04:15:53
Originally posted by Venom
Same shit, different episode.

Isn't that the summary for EVERY Lost episode?

Venom
10-10-2006, 11:41:01
Ummmm, yeah which is why I said that.

Kitsuki
12-10-2006, 08:34:09
I am really having difficultly not opening the other BSG thread... :(

Tizzy
12-10-2006, 09:27:48
Me too, it should be in its own forum or something

maroule
12-10-2006, 09:48:14
just saw the last episode of season 2


aaarrgh

Chris
12-10-2006, 12:42:33
Remember what will happen if you look there, mg G and Lurker will live with you while Venom clogs your plumbing with his massive vileness.

Tizzy
20-11-2006, 09:41:26
Originally posted by maroule
just saw the last episode of season 2


aaarrgh

Watched it last night. I expected a bigger cliff hanger than there actually was?
I mean, that was clearly "to be continued", there's loads more story to come but it didn't leave me thinking "oh my god, what's going to happen now!"

maroule
20-11-2006, 10:02:18
your lack of empathy clearly marks you as a cyclon!

Funko
20-11-2006, 10:33:58
I kind of knew what was going to happen having accidentally read some spoilers, but I think the big thing is the jump forward in time and the fundamental change to the dynamics of the show. Really a ridiculous amount happened and changed in the last 3 episodes.

Kitsuki
20-11-2006, 10:52:10
I rather welcomed it... They needed to change the dynamics of the show occasionlly, as otherwise it will be 7 seasons of "Oh noes the Cylons found us again, RUN AWAY!"

This changes things - now I really want Season 3 - when is it back on Sky?

Funko
20-11-2006, 11:02:53
Not until Feb I think

Kitsuki
20-11-2006, 11:03:39
:(

Tizzy
20-11-2006, 11:06:45
:cry:

maroule
20-11-2006, 11:35:27
is that the smiley for "it didn't leave me thinking "oh my god, what's going to happen now!"?

Tizzy
20-11-2006, 11:37:40
I don't like waiting.

Funko
20-11-2006, 12:53:09
Many spoilers below.

The last three episodes, that we watched last night, seemed really crammed full of plot.

In the usual manner, where they develop one theme over an episode, there was practically half a seasons worth of story in there.

We had:

1. Chief's depression/suicidal tendencies, battering of Callie. Including the arrival of Al from Quantum leap as a priest.
2. Cylon Heroes changing cylon policy and making peace with the humans + Al from quantum leap departure through airlock
3. Rescue mission to Earth + Starbuck/Lee tension
4. Finding habitable planet
5. Election campaign including vote rigging
6. Raped 8's suicide nuking of 1/5 of the fleet
7. Jump forward a year and return of the cylons

ok, so a comfortable 7 episodes crammed into 3. Good stuff, but felt a bit rushed.

maroule
20-11-2006, 13:15:58
certainly a bit more than Lost...

Funko
20-11-2006, 13:16:21
:lol:

That's 7 seasons of Lost.

Kitsuki
20-11-2006, 14:23:18
I quite enjoy the fast pace. Perhaps those 3 episodes should have been divided up a bit more, but the speed of things keeps the tension and the pace up. It also makes it feel as though there are a lot of pressures on the crew of the Galactica, constantly bombarding them.

Btw, apparently there is a miniseries covering the year spent on the new world.

Btw, I love the Quantum Leap guy in it - totally brilliant. I forgot his number, but the chap who used to be on Due South is great as a Cylon. My favourite episode is the one where Starbuck interrogates him.

Fistandantilus
20-11-2006, 16:42:13
Originally posted by Kitsuki
Btw, apparently there is a miniseries covering the year spent on the new world.


You mean the ten resistance webisodes?

Funko
20-11-2006, 16:46:44
Are they available online to watch in the UK?

Fistandantilus
20-11-2006, 16:57:38
Dunno, I didn't watch them but if you can stand the low res I just find out they are all on youtube. Just search for galactica webisodes.

Funko
20-11-2006, 16:58:39
I only found the last 3 on youtube with that search.

Funko
20-11-2006, 16:59:00
I think the official Sci Fi channel site works here. it's just incredibly shit and slow.

Fistandantilus
21-11-2006, 11:37:52
Originally posted by Funko
I only found the last 3 on youtube with that search.

You're rightly right. And the sucking official site won't show them to me :(

Fistandantilus
21-11-2006, 14:13:38
Ok, so I went as far as to watch them during lunch pause.

Maybe it's because I already saw season 3 but it's nothing special and way short. They develop characters of Jammer and Duck so you better understand the motivations behind their actions in the first episodes of the new season but that's all.

Oh, and it shows how good Cylons are at brainwashing humans with a ton of lies.

maroule
21-11-2006, 14:41:42
it's clear, Rumsfeld, Cheney and O'Reilley are all Cylons

Vincent
20-12-2006, 18:56:12
maybe. but at least they ain't french