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Resource Consumer
26-09-2003, 14:35:10
Geekoids, may I have your erudite advice please?

I am looking to do a significant upgrade on my comp (actually, the whole comp). One of the issues is - what is the best graphics card I can buy? (oh, and can you educate me and tell me "why?" as well please)

Many thanks

Asher
26-09-2003, 15:51:25
Radeon 9800 Pro

It's the fastest and has best image quality

MDA
26-09-2003, 18:01:30
I knew Asher was going to say that.

zmama
26-09-2003, 18:27:06
Yeah, but he's right ! ;)

No longer Trippin
26-09-2003, 19:44:15
Saphire 9800 with 3.3 ns ram, flash the bios to a 9800 Pro and you saved a ton of money. :) But I don't see you doing that.

Don't go nvidia at all.

If you want good graphics for "cheap" as 9800 Pros are up there in price, a Saphire or BBA 9800(non SE) or 9600 Pro should do you good for a long time. If those cost too much, a 9600 (non pro) is low as I would go, and those are a bit over 100 IIRC.

Just how much do you want to spend really dictates what you want along with your CPU speed.

Sir Penguin
26-09-2003, 19:57:40
Canaduh! Canaduh! ATi! Canaduh!

SP

MDA
26-09-2003, 20:35:23
The Canadian women's world cup soccer team looks good, SP.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
26-09-2003, 21:10:05
But are they good soccer players? :)

Sean
27-09-2003, 12:45:47
Actually, that is how the Brazilian team is picked.

Asher
28-09-2003, 06:54:24
If you're really cool you can convert your 9800 Pro to a 9900 Pro which isn't even out yet. :D

Remove the pathetic cooling on the 9800 Pro, install the Zalman heatpipe with noiseless fan, and overclock the mofo to 420MHz core (up from 380) and enjoy complete noiseless operation, too.

Pictures from last night:
Before:
http://members.shaw.ca/asher19/computer/oldcard1.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/asher19/computer/oldcard2.jpg

After:
http://members.shaw.ca/asher19/computer/newcard1.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/asher19/computer/newcard2.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/asher19/computer/overview.jpg

Resource Consumer
28-09-2003, 07:54:13
Cheers guys - thanks for advice. That's what I love about this place - you ask for 2c of advice and you get $2. Thnaks again:D.

No longer Trippin
28-09-2003, 18:28:04
I have my core at stock pro speeds at the moment (using the Pro's bios), haven't tried pushing it. When I have to I will, at the moment though it is more than fast enough for anything out there, so why stress it (even though I'm highly tempted to just out of sheer curiousity and the eaze at which vid card overclocking can be done). If it ever get's sluggish I already have a spare heatsink which will work well and I know I should have some headroom on the core, just with the 3.3ns memory I won't be able to squeeze much more effective memory speeds out of it even if it doesn't artifact up an increased clock. I'm happy with how my non-Pro turned Pro performs anyhow.

Deacon
01-10-2003, 21:21:01
I used to to be pro-Nvidia (and anti-ATI), but ATI is killing them both on the lower end and the higher end these days. And ATI also has a motherboard chipset due out soon. Interesting times.

MDA
08-10-2003, 18:27:59
Originally posted by MDA
The Canadian women's world cup soccer team looks good, SP.

That was supposed to be a 100-0 attempt, but I think time has expired. Qaj escapes.

and Canada was eliminated by China, IIRC. Too bad.

No longer Trippin
08-10-2003, 19:42:30
Nvidia's 52 series drivers have them back in the running, still behind the 9800 Pro's a bit, a certainly will be behind the XT's, but the new drviers don't drop visual quality and give the FX series cards a HUGE boost. www.andandtech.com (the review is 60 pages mind you)