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Spartak
16-08-2003, 16:14:14
I was quite taken by the idea of a 17 inch LCD screen. Does anyone have any ideas? The best price I have found so far is 271 at CCL Computers

HERE (http://security.cclcomputers.co.uk/acatalog/index.html?http%3A//security.cclcomputers.co.uk/acatalog/monitor_proview.htm%23aMONPROLCD32&CatalogBody)

Is this model OK or POS and if so, what is the cheapest decent monitor?

No longer Trippin
17-08-2003, 04:32:29
Personally with LCD's I don't like chancing it - I personally use Samsung LCD's when I build comps for people and have used them personally in the past. There are a couple better brands, but the cost of them is outrageous and with Samsung you get a fairly good cost to quality ratio.

Asher
17-08-2003, 07:17:26
1) Anything < 20ms refresh rate is good
2) Anything > 300:1 contrast ratio is good
3) Anything > 260cd/m^2 brightness is good.

No longer Trippin
17-08-2003, 14:59:36
Find ProView's site, the details didn't give any of that information.

Drekkus
18-08-2003, 13:17:24
475 (or something like that) for a Hitachi CML174SXWB with:
17 inch tft screen,
16ms refresh rate,
400:1 contrast ratio,
260cd/m2 brightness.

Asher
18-08-2003, 18:22:52
Another thing to check out is their dead pixel policy. Some of the vendors don't give a shit if you've got a big white spec always on your screen, others will fix it for free.

Spartak
18-08-2003, 19:46:40
:hmm: Can't finda site for them, I imagine they are rebadged but I suspect they are the same as This (http://www.qdieurope.com/ia/cy765.htm) one.

Not quite up to Asher's specs. :hmm:

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep searching. How much did you pay for your one Drekkus?

Spartak
18-08-2003, 19:49:05
Asher thanks, I had already picked up on the dead pixel issue from Drekkus' thread :)

Spartak
18-08-2003, 19:54:40
What about This one (http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info.asp?quicklinx=172CKK&refererid=KK) a Samsung.

Specs Here (http://www.stuff-uk.net/acatalog/z_ST-GH17LSAS.htm) but in summary

1) Anything < 20ms refresh rate is good - <25ms
2) Anything > 300:1 contrast ratio is good - 350-1
3) Anything > 260cd/m^2 brightness is good. - 200cd/m

Is this worth looking at bearing in mind that Trip recommends Samsung monitors for a good balance between price and performance?

Drekkus
18-08-2003, 21:16:48
Originally posted by Spartak
:hmm: Can't finda site for them, I imagine they are rebadged but I suspect they are the same as This (http://www.qdieurope.com/ia/cy765.htm) one.

Not quite up to Asher's specs. :hmm:

Thanks for the advice. I'll keep searching. How much did you pay for your one Drekkus? Around 480 euro or something.

King_Ghidra@home
18-08-2003, 21:58:44
As posted today (coincidentally) on my CS clan forum:

Staples had some 17" TFT panels. GNR F173. I had my reservations considering the price, but when I got it home, I simply couldn't believe it. This 199 (INC VAT, yes INC VAT) monitor is 1280x1024, lovely contrast, fast refresh (suitable for gaming) and just flipping lovely.

Asher
18-08-2003, 22:31:41
Originally posted by Spartak
What about This one (http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info.asp?quicklinx=172CKK&refererid=KK) a Samsung.

Specs Here (http://www.stuff-uk.net/acatalog/z_ST-GH17LSAS.htm) but in summary

1) Anything < 20ms refresh rate is good - <25ms
2) Anything > 300:1 contrast ratio is good - 350-1
3) Anything > 260cd/m^2 brightness is good. - 200cd/m

Is this worth looking at bearing in mind that Trip recommends Samsung monitors for a good balance between price and performance?
25ms is actually pretty good. :D 25ms and higher can have "ghosting" though in fast 3D games, where it looks like motion trails, but at 25ms it's barely noticable if at all. <20ms and it's basically completely gone.

200cd/m^2 brightness is also decent, but would be somewhat hard to see if the sun was shining on it.

As for Samsung, they make great LCD panels. The best ones in the business (surprisingly) come from Hyundai, which lots of vendors use, but Samsung is very good.

The LCD panel on my laptop is a Samsung, very vivid.

No longer Trippin
19-08-2003, 03:55:40
Hyundai makes some good ones - though there is one other company which I really liked image quality wise, can't think of the name, and they had a virtual no hassle warranty - though they were mostly graphic workstation monitors - thus costly. I recall it started with an S... though they were bloody expensive for an LCD - but one semilit or dead pixel, even in the corner of the display - and a 2 year warranty, they'd replace it.

Noisy
02-09-2003, 17:06:58
This (http://www.evesham.com/Products/Info.asp?e=CBAF9E77-DB4E-4162-AA96-82553A35A87C&c=85DB3DA2-9C10-4921-B817-3976ADF9209B&td=1) is the baby I got from Evesham.

Nav
02-09-2003, 23:09:02
Spartak, buy this months PC Pro, they have a whole feature / labs test on 17in TFT's :)

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
04-09-2003, 16:03:24
Tom's Hardware is showcasing a bunch of 19" monitors this week. You might check that out, it details specs and dead pixel replacement policies for various manufacturers. Though they are a tad expensive: >US$1100/1000euros.