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Jeratain
07-08-2003, 23:10:04
Hello fellow consumers. I am wondering if this flat panel display is worth purchasing or not.

It is $ 399.99
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GEM GL-1821A 18" TFT Flat Panel Display with .28mm Pixel Pitch & 1280x1024 Resolution

18" TFT Flat Panel Display:
For your MAC or PC

LCD Display: 18" TFT Active Matrix Panel
Display Size (WxH): 14.13" x 11.30" (359.04 mm x 287.23 mm)
Pixel Pitch: 0.28 mm x 0.28 mm
Contrast Ratio: 300:1
Brightness: 200 cd/m

Response Time:
Tr: 25ms
Tf: 25ms
Viewing Angle: +80 degree ~ -80 degree (L/R), +80 degree ~ -80 degree (U/D)
Display Colors: 16 Million
Resolution: SXGA 1280 x 1024 @ 75Hz

Scanning Frequency:
Horizontal: 31 ~ 80 KHz
Vertical: 60 ~ 75 Hz

Input Signal:
Video: Analog RGB 0.7V p-p/75
Sync: TTL Positive or Negative
Input Connector: 15Pin D-sub High Density Connector for Video &

Sync Signals
Plug & Play: DDC1/2B
User Controls:
Front Panel Controls: Power On/Off, Menu, Select (Up/Down), Auto-Adjust
OSD Controls: Contrast, Brightness, H-Position, V-Position, Clock, Phase, Color Balance, Language

Power:
Voltage: AC 110-240V, 12V
Management: VESA DPMS
Consumption: 45W Max On
Saving: 3W
Dimensions (HxWxD): 16.77" x 17.48" x 8.46" (431 mm x 449 mm x 215 mm)
Weight: 22.2 Lbs / 11 Kg

Environmental Conditions:
Operating Temperature: +32 to +104 deg F / 0 to +40 deg C
Operating Humidity: 10% to 85% (non-condensing)
Storage Temperature: +14 to +140 deg F / -20 to +60 deg C
Storage Humidity: 10% to 90% (non-condensing)
Certification: FCC-B, CE, UL, TUV
http://image.fp.outpost.com/art/product/box_shots/3654505.box.GIF

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
08-08-2003, 00:07:26
Slightly low response time, only analog input (and digital input does make a difference - I recently had to switch to analog from digital with a work monitor due to a digital output crap-up in my GFX card, and analog is lousier, but not by a whole lot, if I hadn't been using digital first I wouldn't be complaining).

No speakers: that's a good thing :) A little heavy for an 18 inch flat panel.

$400 is a pretty good price for that, and it looks nice too. I'd want to find out who manufactured the LCD panel though (checked online quickly, didn't find nuthin').

No longer Trippin
08-08-2003, 04:15:03
Sounds like a refurbished monitor to me - and going by some of it's specs, it would lead me to believe that even more. Does it come with a warranty - make sure it at least has a 1 month dead pixel warranty - then it should also come with a general 1 year one. Though if it's a factory refurb, you probably will get no warranty. That's just too cheap and from a brand which isn't exactly known for quality - still cost too little for an 18 inch - has to be a refuirb or return stock that they are trying to sell.

If it sounds to good to be true, it generally is.

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
08-08-2003, 15:08:02
It doesn't sound too good to be true - GEM is one of the traditionally "low budget" LCD manufacturers.

Of course, it's not exactly a name brand, and for myself, I wouldn't buy it unless it was WAY cheap and GEM hardware got some consitently decent reviews.

No longer Trippin
08-08-2003, 22:38:15
Yeah but 18" a 19" inch samsung from newegg is 700 - and that is an older one. I'd still think there would be at least another 100 tagged to the price, but I don't know. If it's new, check the warranty details as Drekkus can vouch for (scary as that is), as you want a dead pixel garuantee - it might not cover semi-lit pixels, but it's better than none. Those are 30 days, then you have to have a ton die on you to return it after that during the rest of the warranty period - though GEM probably doesn't offer that warranty, just the 1 year piece I'm assuming.

If the store is good and it's new, I'd get it... if refurbed, I'd only get it if it had some type of warranty incase it's a really bad refurb job. Still for 400 - long as the vendor is good, if you want an LCD, your not going to beat that price for awhile.

Jeratain
09-08-2003, 08:47:40
I'm actually going to opt to go against purchasing it for now. I'll wait a few months and buy a more expensive brand that has name recognition and quality rather than go for the cheap one.

Thanks for all your opinions :)

No longer Trippin
09-08-2003, 22:05:17
No problem... if you want a list of LCD makers and how good their warranties are, go to Tomshardware.com... look up reviews - it shouldn't be more than a few months old I'd image. Has about 15+ manufacturers, conditions of warranty, etc. Very thorough. If I wasn't on a slower than usual 56k connection I'd try to dig the exact page it starts on for you. But a search on LCD monitor comparision or something should pull the review up I'd imagine.

Drekkus
11-08-2003, 11:12:32
The 18" screen seems a bit off the normal format. 17" is allmost the same size (about 19" CRT), but a lot cheaper. I got mine a few weeks ago, and it's a big enough for my taste.

Nav
11-08-2003, 16:16:30
I personally want one of these TFT's...

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/reviews_story.php?id=43311

Nav
11-08-2003, 16:25:46
decent, yet cheap 17in TFT

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/labs/labs_story.php?id=32782&headline=17-18in+TFTs&issue=97&filename=17-18in+tfts_97_1.pdf

No longer Trippin
12-08-2003, 03:10:31
LCD's don't follow CRT formats. That's why you see 15" 17" 18" 19" 20" commonly (though they have slightly larger) CRT's are 15, 17, 19, 21 (same as above, some are slightly larger for computers, like 24" for some workstation work).

Nav
12-08-2003, 13:07:38
CRT screens are measured differently to TFT's as well.

No longer Trippin
12-08-2003, 21:00:50
Yeah... But some CRT's have some odd measurements as well due to the screens shape as in some upper end workstation ones... saw a screen which was literally 21 x 21 inches. Don't know how much that puppy cost. Then you have the macs with the wide view screen (as in those G5 commercials). 3000 dollars for a comp with one sata 160 GB (super)drive? I don't think so