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Sir Penguin
18-05-2003, 05:54:00
... when he or she has to design the advertisement for the sale of his or her computer. :(

But there is a silver lining: the new computer, of course. Here's mine:

1 x Antec LANBoy Mini-tower (17", Al, 350W PS, window)
1 x Asus A7N8X-DX (NForce2, AGP8X, Firewire, 6xUSB2, RAID1/0, SoundStorm Dolby digital audio, 2xLAN)
1 x AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton core)
2 x 512MB PC2700 RAM
2 x Maxtor 30GB hard drive (7200 RPM, ATA133)
1 x LG 52x24x52 CDRW
1 x Asus GeForce4 Ti4200 (:bash: )
1 x Vantec Aeroflow HSF
1 x Generic floppy drive

You may now count your blessings that you didn't just buy this. There was a sale. :(

The best thing is, now my computer will once again be better than my parents'. No young person should have a crappier computer than their parents (please don't call this a penis war, that could be traumatic). Also, I get a free ballpoint pen. :coolgrin: Here's hoping it will work better than the current rig (the computer, not the pen).

SP

zmama
18-05-2003, 11:35:46
Nice....any neon? ;)

Deacon
18-05-2003, 11:47:11
It should work. I don't see any "alarm bells" companies. As for parental computers, they should be easy enough to surpass unless the parents are into running demanding programs. :)

Sir Penguin
18-05-2003, 17:53:07
No neon yet. I bought a couple of good regular case fans a couple days ago, before I knew I was going to buy this. I'll start saving up for some round IDE cables, though. :)

I don't remember my parents' specs exactly, but I'm pretty sure it was based around an Athlon XP 2400+ (T-bred) and some Asus/KT400 motherboard. In fact the only thing in their computer that is worse than my current setup is the video card, which I traded for my current one as a birthday present. My dad does complex database systems for the government when he's not at work. :)

I should say, it would be nice if the pen works better than the current rig as well.

SP

MDA
18-05-2003, 21:47:18
So your dad does his taxes when he's not at work?

Koshko
18-05-2003, 21:57:41
did you remember to delete the 321 megs of porn you downloaded before giving the computer to them?

Darkstar
19-05-2003, 00:18:40
321 MEG of porn? Get real. Try his 5 Gig of porn pictures. ;)

Congrats Sir Penguin!

Sir Penguin
19-05-2003, 01:36:47
Originally posted by MDA
So your dad does his taxes when he's not at work?

During tax season, yes. He used to do other people's taxes as well. But other than that, he basically designed and implemented the database for training weeks for the entire Pacific Coast Guard fleet by himself (with continuous input from the organisers, of course).

Koshko: I haven't sold this one yet (I haven't even received the new parts yet). And it's only, like, 10 MB. There's just not that much Disney porn on the Internet, for some reason. I'll probably write 0's over the hard drive anyway, just to be safe. :)

SP

Darkstar
19-05-2003, 01:45:26
DISNEY PORN? SP, please. You can get 1 Gig of Ariel images easily. Snow White and the Seven whatevers , etc etc etc.

If your really want to make sure the disk is wiped, get one of those 'file shredders' that rewrite the files with random series of 0 and 1s (binary ;)) for 5 times. That's generally the spook org standard, IIRC. Some shredders will do that to the whole disk system.

Sir Penguin
19-05-2003, 02:16:54
See, I didn't know that. :)

The *NIX `shred` command defaults to rewriting 25 times, can be set to do a final rewrite of all 0s, and can do it to a device file (ie, disk or partition). :coolgrin:

SP

Deacon
19-05-2003, 05:43:50
Encrypt the filesystem and then zero out the disk. If that doesn't work, incinerate the disk.

Asher
19-05-2003, 05:56:22
I'm so sorry, SP. :(

Drekkus
19-05-2003, 11:38:24
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
... when he or she has to design the advertisement for the sale of his or her computer. :(

But there is a silver lining: the new computer, of course. Here's mine:

1 x Antec LANBoy Mini-tower (17", Al, 350W PS, window)
1 x Asus A7N8X-DX (NForce2, AGP8X, Firewire, 6xUSB2, RAID1/0, SoundStorm Dolby digital audio, 2xLAN)
1 x AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (Barton core)
2 x 512MB PC2700 RAM
2 x Maxtor 30GB hard drive (7200 RPM, ATA133)
1 x LG 52x24x52 CDRW
1 x Asus GeForce4 Ti4200 (:bash: )
1 x Vantec Aeroflow HSF
1 x Generic floppy drive

You may now count your blessings that you didn't just buy this. There was a sale. :(

SP You just bought this new computer and now it's on sale? I didn't think you we the type to buy a whole system at once, more of a DIY assembler. That's a bit dissapointing. :(

How much does that system cost in canada? (please use US dollars, since I have no clue how much canadian dollars are worth)

Funkodrom
19-05-2003, 11:47:40
30 gig harddrive sounds a bit small?

Oh and :lol: @ LANBoy.

zmama
19-05-2003, 16:00:46
not if you RAID 0 the two 30 gig drives.

Funkodrom
19-05-2003, 16:10:38
Ah, I didn't read that he had 2 of them. D'oh.

Beta1
19-05-2003, 16:33:48
wot no DVD?

Sir Penguin
19-05-2003, 19:38:33
Originally posted by Drekkus
You just bought this new computer and now it's on sale? I didn't think you we the type to buy a whole system at once, more of a DIY assembler. That's a bit dissapointing. :(

How much does that system cost in canada? (please use US dollars, since I have no clue how much canadian dollars are worth)

I just bought the parts, I still get to put it together. :) There was a sale on almost all the parts I listed (aside from the cooler and the floppy drive), so I felt I could justify buying them, regardless of the actual cost. It totalled US$832 (US$907 off sale--that's over 4.25 million Afghanis!). It would have been a lot less if our dollar wasn't so high. That's not including 14.5% tax plus about US$36.50 shipping & insurance, plus about US$2 in chromed wire fan grills.

No DVD because I wouldn't use it until DVD became a common storage medium. DVD sucks.

SP

Darkstar
20-05-2003, 07:04:40
SP, Pioneer is just starting to market a new DVD rewriter. It supports ALL the DVD formats. Expect to see other manufacturers doing the same thing.

Sir Penguin
20-05-2003, 07:51:12
Yes, the 8x CD-R, 4x CD-RW, 2x DVD-R, and 1x DVD-RW. "Just starting" is the operative phrase. Even when DVD-RWs reach write speeds and prices of current CD-RWs, I bet CDs will still hold on for a while. So why buy DVD-ROM now, when: it'll be at least twice as fast when it becomes practical for everyday use; it's not actually used for anything except movies and rich man's backup (I don't even have enough backup-worthy data to fill 1/4 of a CD); and I can't think of another thing that sucks about DVD, it just does.

Having said that, I could hollow out the DVD-ROM internals (except the opening mechanism), and mount one of those new paper-thin LCD screens (http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1052511479.html) on the disc tray, folded such that it would unfold when the tray opened and refold when the tray retracted (accordian-style). I could probably get it to gather data from temperature sensors and display it, or display game maps and inventories and things like that (might require some support from game developers). That would rock. The closing mechanism would need a bit more power and sturdiness, unless you wanted to muck around with collapsing the screen with a seperate motor while retracting the tray. I guess that would depend on the ease with which one could bed the LCD. Another benefit of making a sturdier tray would be that you could have a touch-LCD screen. It could hold all sorts of stuff, like desktop icons, clocks--hell, everything that's on the desktop now--, browsable system information, address books, a bar for buttons specified by the application with focus... all sorts of crap. Case designs would need to be modified with this in mind, to make access more convenient, or research would have to be put into making external devices cheaper. The best thing would be that I would be able to impress my friends by saying that I have a DVD-ROM drive and actually use it for things other than movies!

SP

Sir Penguin
20-05-2003, 07:52:37
"Bend the LCD". A bit of a Freudian slip there.

SP

Sir Penguin
21-05-2003, 06:14:30
They've accepted payment, it'll probably ship tomorrow. :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

SP

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
21-05-2003, 21:47:11
Is that the one you're going to call "Genitals?

Sir Penguin
21-05-2003, 22:04:23
I haven't decided yet.

SP

Sir Penguin
22-05-2003, 19:04:45
IT'S IN VICTORIA! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

SP

MDA
22-05-2003, 20:32:03
LAKE Victoria:cry:

Sir Penguin
22-05-2003, 21:27:13
I never realised Sierra bought Purolator. No wonder their shipping is so cheap. :bash:

SP

Sir Penguin
23-05-2003, 00:03:46
Shit, it was delivered at 14:39 today. I checked at the res office at 14:35 (just after that last post). Now, I bet the desk people who know where they keep the packages have gone home. :rolleyes: :bash:

SP

Sir Penguin
23-05-2003, 19:15:50
Sir Penguin will not be able to post for an indefinite period of time. He got his new components a few minutes ago, and immediately went into ferret shock. He is sorry for the inconvenience.

zmama
23-05-2003, 19:44:07
Congrats little fella :D

Heres hoping it works the first time!

Darkstar
23-05-2003, 20:44:41
Good luck! Have fun!

Sir Penguin
24-05-2003, 00:07:25
Wow, the LANBoy is like a puzzle game. It has a little compartment in the back for storing screws and standoffs. It took me a while to find. I was tremendously relieved and reillusioned when I found that they hadn't forgotten to send me enough standoffs to mount the motherboard properly. Then there's the whole drive rail system. I actually had to look for a picture of them to show my dad before I found out I had screwed the rail on the wrong way. And that was after I had had to figure out that there was a drive rail system, and where the drive rails were (cunningly hidden on the back of the disposable 5.25" plates). The good news is, I haven't had to read the instructions yet except to look for some information on motherboard connectors. Speaking of which, does anyone know what two two-pin connectors labelled "-" and "=" do? I haven't found any information on them in either the motherboard manual or the case manual.

The motherboad kicks ass. It comes with a passive north bridge heatsink, which is good for the LANBoy (which is very light and has little emphasis on noise reduction). The capacitors near the CPU socket are a little too close--they make heatsink/fan installation rather difficult. I love the SATA cables, and I wish I could afford SATA drives.

SP

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
27-05-2003, 21:45:34
SATA cables are v/nice. I'll be waiting until next year/year after to get a drive, though, since they apparently work at much the same performance level as ordinary ATA/133's right now.

Sir Penguin
28-05-2003, 00:05:43
I am compelled to mention that the A7N8X-DX only does SATA RAID, and not IDE RAID (it wasn't nearly as obvious in forsight). :rolleyes: So I get to pay another C$60 or so for the ability to use SATA cables and RAID. :)

With regard to SATA performance, http://www.envynews.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4883 . I dunno, maybe that's just a one-off thing.

Did I mention the LANBoy rocks? It does. :) It even comes with a blue LED in the power supply!

SP

Sir Penguin
28-05-2003, 01:04:03
And one of the best parts of getting a new computer: fresh bubble wrap!

SP

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
28-05-2003, 17:22:02
Yay bubble wrap! http://www.ozyandmillie.org/2003/om20030520.html

Are you spending that C$60 on a SATA/IDE adaptor (or two)?

Sir Penguin
28-05-2003, 18:59:55
I'll probably end up doing it. I mean, I've got two slim, black hard drives peeking stealthily out the case window, and they're just pleading to have that ungainly IDE cable replaced with a chunky gray adapter each. It will be more like US$60 unless I can find a local store which carries them.

http://www.ncix.com/productdetail.php?sku=9035

SP

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
01-07-2003, 17:52:37
Just found this online, in case you haven't bought one yet:

http://www.coolerexpress.com/iwparatatose.html

Serial ATA
Converts parallel ATA hard drive to Serial ATA
Supports ATA/100 or ATA/133 IDE hard drive
Compliant with Serial ATA 1.0 specification

US$17

Sir Penguin
01-07-2003, 19:25:31
Wow, those are nice. I wonder what their performance is like compared to the Highpoint, and if they come in hot pink.

SP

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
01-07-2003, 23:13:35
You can probably get a can of hot pink paint for under $5

Scabrous Birdseed
04-07-2003, 16:43:23
Originally posted by Sir Penguin
And one of the best parts of getting a new computer: fresh bubble wrap!

SP

Yeah! While the bulbs are still firm and ridgey and before the jizz stains make it too messy to use.