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Debaser
15-05-2003, 10:02:37
Would anybody be interested in taking part in a LWP style thing, but with original compositions rather than favourite songs?

I reckon we'd need at least about 6 or 7 contributers providing one song each to make it worthwhile.

Anyone?

The Shaker
15-05-2003, 10:06:25
I would, if i had a studio and some instruments.

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:07:59
Originally posted by Debaser
Would anybody be interested in taking part in a LWP style thing, but with original compositions rather than favourite songs?

I reckon we'd need at least about 6 or 7 contributers providing one song each to make it worthwhile.

Anyone?

Yes definitely. Give me a reason to start cracking on with Reason again.

Could protein and I submit one solo track each and a band one say?

Debaser
15-05-2003, 10:14:07
Yup, I guess so. The more the merrier really. Could you get Shakey to put Reason on his 'pooter, then he would have a studio and he'd have to take part, mwah ha ha...

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:15:03
Sure, if I can find the CD! I bet he'd come up with something pretty interesting.

Eklektikos
15-05-2003, 10:25:04
Sounds like a cool idea. Might spur me to actually finish writing something for once.

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:29:13
Where are Posterboy, RC and Vincent?

Debaser
15-05-2003, 10:34:50
Who knows?

I'll leave this thread here for a few days, then on monday or tuesday see who's up for doing it, and whether or not it's worthwhile. If it is then I'll get started working out how it'll happen. I'll do all the compiling and stuff.

Remember any type of tune is welcome, so long as you can transfer it to some kind of resonable sized computer file (I don't want to be fuckin' around with tapes).

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:39:43
Might have to leave it a while before we actually run it to give people to write/record new stuff or transfer old stuff to modern formats.

I guess that we might as well fill a CD so depending on how many people want to take part we could allow more than one song each anyway?

The Shaker
15-05-2003, 10:40:49
Cool,
I'll give it a whirl, if possible.
Always wanted to do summit like this.

Debaser
15-05-2003, 10:45:36
Originally posted by Funkodrom
Might have to leave it a while before we actually run it to give people to write/record new stuff or transfer old stuff to modern formats.

I guess that we might as well fill a CD so depending on how many people want to take part we could allow more than one song each anyway?

HEY I'LL MAKE THE RULES HERE BUDDY! ...........but...er.....yeah, good ideas.

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:46:12
I'll hunt around my room for the CD later. You might need a brief training session. Took me ages to work out the basics having never used anything like this before.

The Shaker
15-05-2003, 10:52:40
Cool, ta, etc.
I doubt i'll be back until late 2night, and i'll be pissed.
So better leave the training until another day :)

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 10:54:56
I'm only in for 15 mins tonight anyway. :D

protein
15-05-2003, 11:43:12
I'm well up for it.
Forget Reason, it all ends up sounding the same unless you've been using it for a year or two. Borrow my 4 track and a microphone do some real music.

Funkodrom
15-05-2003, 11:53:52
I might do that anyway.

Your Reason stuff all sounds like drum and bass and none of mine does. (hopefully). :p It's still fun to play with though. Anyway I would have to do bass and drums on Reason even if I was using a 4 track.

protein
15-05-2003, 16:43:34
I mean that at first all your songs tend to use the Reason sounds and sound like they are computer songs. Then you move on to using sounds that you've collected/made yourself.

They're not all drum et basse. I've done other better stuff which I am going to mix with live instruments to make it more me.

BigGameHunter
15-05-2003, 19:47:45
So transferring tape to PC is a bitch, or what?
I was in a couple of bands in the early 90's that might be worth a listen, if I can figure out how to change media.
Or I could just go to my friend's studio and give it a whirl with something new, but I am as rusty as the Queen's chastity belt.

Debaser
15-05-2003, 20:14:08
I know tape to PC is possible, but I'm not sure exactly how. You could try asking in the geek forum.

Provost Harrison
15-05-2003, 20:40:01
Originally posted by The Shaker
I would, if i had a studio and some instruments.

...and an ounce of musical ability as well :D

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 08:25:19
Originally posted by protein
They're not all drum et basse. I've done other better stuff which I am going to mix with live instruments to make it more me.

I was just being bitchy. :D

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 08:25:41
I answered the tape to PC thing in the other thread.

Bob
16-05-2003, 08:29:17
Oops, I ignored that. I'll try to do a song.

Have we a idea? I guess we should have a concept. Songs about ... what?!?!

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 08:41:01
Well... concept is OK for new songs but what about existing songs?

Bob
16-05-2003, 08:45:11
I see.
Well, anyway, I'd like to put the stuff on the Loud Medicine site once we got it.

If anyone needs supoort converting files or some fixing on old tapes mail to contact@loudmedicine.net.

I got some tech stuff to revive old recordings

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 08:56:16
A concept for new songs is a cool idea though thinking about it.

Bob
16-05-2003, 09:01:09
Some kind of concept album :)

Bob
16-05-2003, 09:02:21
The interesting point would be how different posters would handle the same theme

The Shaker
16-05-2003, 09:05:01
Originally posted by Provost Harrison
...and an ounce of musical ability as well :D

Na, I was just going to do some Punk/Pop

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 09:07:37
Yes.

I'm going to be borrowing protein's 4 track to do some stuff, probably record through that onto the PC. Problem I'm going to have is getting production experience quickly enough. Maybe me not knowing what I'm supposed to be doing with the production and just inventing it will be more interesting though. :)

One of my housemates also has loads of cool stuff set up in his room so maybe I can borrow that. I've also got an entire bands worth of kit in my house, everything except drums. :D

Bob
16-05-2003, 09:31:30
I think the goal can't be to get a cool produced galactic space opera. Well, do it, if you want. But better get a song. Remember Keith's songs with guitar and vocal only. They work amazingly good (that fucker).

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 09:35:50
I can't sing at all so it'll probably be an instrumental.

My goal will probably be to make something that's nasty and really hard to listen to but I doubt it'll end up like that.

Bob
16-05-2003, 10:26:59
If you can't sing speak!

Bob
16-05-2003, 10:29:18
Originally posted by Funkodrom
My goal will probably be to make something that's nasty and really hard to listen to but I doubt it'll end up like that. That's really difficult. I tried that but I'm not to do so

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 10:40:48
It is really difficult. I won't manage it because I only really seem to like pretty guitar parts.

Bob
16-05-2003, 10:56:09
sing the parts

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 10:58:43
You are right, that would make it unlistenable.

Bob
16-05-2003, 11:08:44
Some of us posters should write some lyrics and some of the others write the songs.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 11:09:49
What about if everyone (who wanted to) took the same lyrics and made it into a song.

Bob
16-05-2003, 11:17:31
That's a good idea

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 11:22:05
Cool. :D

We could have a competition for the lyrics. Get posters to submit them then vote on the ones we want to use.

Eklektikos
16-05-2003, 11:26:55
I've never been able to write lyrics, so as far as I'm concerned that's a great idea :D

Bob
16-05-2003, 11:29:31
And I won't be able to pronounce it!

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 11:32:09
What if the winning lyrics are in German? :hmm:

protein
16-05-2003, 11:41:46
I really really like that idea. we could have the people with no musical ability writing the lyrics based on a theme and the musos turn them in to songs. We could have a concept album here people.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 11:43:56
I really like the idea of the exact same lyrics in many different styles. I mean you wouldn't have to use all the lyrics or anything but it'd be great to see what people did with them.

protein
16-05-2003, 11:49:39
The lyrics should be really really awkward and crap then. It has to be a challenge.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 11:51:10
I don't know, I think for me just producing some kind of song on my own for the first time ever will be challenge enough.

Shall I post something about a lyrics competition to the site front page/counterpoint so we can get entries in.

Bob
16-05-2003, 12:23:00
I think we should have at least 3 different song lyrics to chose. If you don't like it at all it's hard.
Can we change the lyrics (cut it down for example?)

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:33:59
I don't see why we can't do whatever we want with the lyrics. Chop them up, miss out verses, whatever.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:34:48
I'll post something so that people can start writing them anyway. We can decide how many to choose from/use later.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 12:41:15
Did you not hear me when I said I MAKE THE RULES!!!!! before?

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:44:15
Yes but I chose to ignore it.

I'm just going to post something encouraging people to come and get involved.

People can choose to do this lyrics/concept thing if they want to or not. I wasn't suggesting it would be mandatory but I think it'd be fun for me to do.

Bob
16-05-2003, 12:48:22
I think it's OK. People can come up with ideas about the project

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:49:07
Yeah, that's what I posted basically, if you are interested come and join in the discussions.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 12:52:00
But the concept idea introduces a sort of competition element which I was trying to avoid. I just wanted to create a compilation of Counterglowers stuff which just objectively showed what everyone liked to create. The idea was that people were free to do what ever they wanted.

If you're going to introduce a concept, it would have to incorporate everyone, otherwise it's just half-arsed, and wouldn't make much sense.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:54:51
I think the concept idea is really cool though and I'm quite excited about it.

I don't think we were trying to suggest that everyone does the concept thing, just it'd be something to spark off ideas.

And I don't think the point is to make the "best" track based on the ideas, just to see how different people respond to the same stimulus.

Sorry, didn't mean to try and take over, I just got excited about it all.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 12:58:01
Thats ok *wipes away tear*

I think a lot of people were going to contribute old tracks, and maybe they wouldn't want to if there was some kind of arbitary concept.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 12:59:43
Maybe we should turn it into 2 seperate projects? The old stuff / submit anything you've made want to make album and the concept album.

The Shaker
16-05-2003, 13:01:18
Yeah.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:04:00
Ok, but one at a time, and I thought we were waiting till after the other LWP thing anyway.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:06:48
Yes but if I'm writing something for the concept album I'd like to get the concept sorted early on so I can think about what I'm going to do and start working on it.

We should probably do the general CD first because that should involve fewer people writing new stuff, plus it was the first idea?

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:08:34
If we have like 8/10 tracks/contributors for each project maybe they could all go on 1 CD to save money posting them all around the world.

Bob
16-05-2003, 13:08:40
That's a good idea. It's a little like the old Loud Medicine collection. I still got the tracks from posterboy, Mike/RC and Boss manly.

My idea:

We start seperate projects, belonging together. Night and day or something.
I'll add that to the stuff on LM we already got. The old, the bad and the ugly:

Like:

* LM/Louder: collection of Projects (complete collection)
** ACOL/CG (stuff we got)
** LWP homegrown (the whoile new project)
*** LWP homegrown - Bring out ye dead (old stuff of CG posters)
*** LWP homegrown - words & sounds (new stuff with CG lyrics)

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:08:48
Ok.

So we'll revert to the original plan of waiting till monday or tuesday to see who's interested then sorting it out.

Bob
16-05-2003, 13:10:34
I'd like to add it to the LM site because I really see it as a developement, belonging to the stuff we already have. We can compare it, have new people.

If you got another idea it's fine. We can use LM as a container for stuff (what it's anyway)

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:12:12
But... I want to start working on it now! :)

Ok, that sounds good anyway. I'll get the fourtrack from Rob at the weekend and I want to buy an XLR - 1/4 inch jack so I can DI my speaker simulator on my amp into it.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:13:18
Originally posted by Bob
I'd like to add it to the LM site because I really see it as a developement, belonging to the stuff we already have. We can compare it, have new people.

If you got another idea it's fine. We can use LM as a container for stuff (what it's anyway)

I agree. This kind of thing was the exact reason for starting LM in the first place.

Bob
16-05-2003, 13:16:47
Wait! I got a much better idea! Why don't we download free stuff from the net, put it on CD, save a lot of work and go to a pub instead! Later we can write our names on the label, nobody will notice.
Or even better: We download real crappy free stuff and write the name of people we don't like on the label (which may be the same in the end)!

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:17:20
Sure, I agree that it would be perfect for Loud Medicine.

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:17:54
Originally posted by Bob
Wait! I got a much better idea! Why don't we download free stuff from the net, put it on CD, save a lot of work and go to a pub instead! Later we can write our names on the label, nobody will notice.
Or even better: We download real crappy free stuff and write the name of people we don't like on the label (which may be the same in the end)!

:lol:

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:18:24
Hmm, that was an X-post, but it kind of works....

The Shaker
16-05-2003, 13:28:33
XLR - 1/4 inch jack so I can DI my speaker simulator?

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:33:56
A cable to connect my new amp to the 4-track.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:34:33
It's a stereo 1/4inch plug adaptor so he can plug his computer into his guitar amp.

Debaser
16-05-2003, 13:35:24
Originally posted by Funkodrom
A cable to connect my new amp to the 4-track.

What's wrong with just an ordinary guitar lead?

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 13:37:16
The line out on the amp is an XLR socket.

Bob
16-05-2003, 13:42:13
I like to see you getting into the details already!

BigGameHunter
16-05-2003, 15:04:12
Hmmmm....I'm confused. Which of these 14 projects is first and what does it require?

Funkodrom
16-05-2003, 15:11:41
2 projects in this order:

1. Submit any track you want that you/a band of yours has made.

2. Themed project featuring new tracks recorded specifically to a theme (to be decided)

BigGameHunter
16-05-2003, 15:12:55
Thanks...you guys were getting a bit spastic there.

protein
16-05-2003, 20:34:06
Originally posted by Funkodrom
But... I want to start working on it now! :)

Ok, that sounds good anyway. I'll get the fourtrack from Rob at the weekend and I want to buy an XLR - 1/4 inch jack so I can DI my speaker simulator on my amp into it.
I've got a spare one. You could do your drums and bass on reason.

Oh, my 4 track is a 3 track for some reason but you can still bounce stuff down.

Funkodrom
17-05-2003, 12:03:22
I think I can take the output from the 4-track into cakewalk can't I? There's a bass here anyway.

Provost Harrison
17-05-2003, 12:16:10
Originally posted by BigGameHunter
Thanks...you guys were getting a bit spastic there.

Please...they are called 'scopes' now ;)