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plastically
11-04-2003, 16:38:56
Is quite good. I believe it surpasses their last album but not quite up there with kida/ok computer/bends.

I like how they played around with different vioce arrangements and there is some nice new textures to some of the tracks.

And the once song, miyamotis, has a real nice heavy-groove to it.

4/5

Debaser
11-04-2003, 16:40:20
Do you actually have a copy of the album, or just Mp3's?

PosterBoy
11-04-2003, 16:54:50
I miss the Radiohead of Anyone can play guitar days :(

King_Ghidra@home
11-04-2003, 17:09:52
I love Anyone can play guitar, brilliant track

So what's this new stuff called, give me some names and i'll get on kazaa :nervous:

Debaser
11-04-2003, 17:26:30
2 + 2 = 5
Sit Down. Stand Up.
Sail To The Moon.
Backdrifts.
Go To Sleep.
Where I End And You Begin.
We Suck Young Blood.
The Gloaming.
There There.
I Will.
A Punch-Up at a Wedding.
Myxamatosis.
Scatterbrain.
A Wolf At The Door.

Sean
11-04-2003, 17:27:50
It’s out in June. Bastard.

plastically
11-04-2003, 17:35:03
oh. we suck young blood. the best track on the album by far.

Sean
11-04-2003, 17:40:10
Bastard bastard bastard.

Lazarus and the Gimp
11-04-2003, 17:49:42
Is there whingeing and moaning on it?

plastically
11-04-2003, 17:56:59
no, but there is a mention of a person named "Lazarus and the Gimp" on the album... .Something about narrow minded assholes who can't spell.

Debaser
11-04-2003, 18:02:27
That's an amazing coincidence!

plastically
11-04-2003, 18:04:50
ahh debaser. an amazing pixies song.

The Shaker
11-04-2003, 18:09:43
but poor excuse for a human being.

Sean
11-04-2003, 18:24:31
Originally posted by plastically
Is quite good. I believe it surpasses their last album but not quite up there with kida/ok computer/bends.
Not ‘up there’ with Kid A?

:(.

plastically
11-04-2003, 18:27:11
no it is i guess sean. just total different angle you know.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-04-2003, 19:02:41
Is there whingeing, moaning, a complete lack of anything resembling a beat, pretentious pseudo-prog, impentetrable and ultimately meaningless lyrics, and a complete disdain for anything resemblig real Rock'n'Roll on it?

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:04:30
:bounce:.

plastically
11-04-2003, 19:04:52
what is 'real rock and roll' to you?

Provost Harrison
11-04-2003, 19:23:26
Who knows, but he does have a point dressed up in a lot of ponciness...albums like The Bends were very good, OK Computer had it's moments, but their more recent stuff is just too off-whack.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-04-2003, 19:24:37
I dunno. An immediate, youth-oriented musical form based on a significant backbeat with a heavy groove I suppose. Something playful, something with oomph, something entirely centred around creating effective, lean music that'll make you dance, nod your head, or at least feel something immediate. The strength of simple, popular music like Folk or Rock has always been the straightforward, unpretentious, heartfelt nature of the way it's created and performed- if you want high art there's always Modern Jazz and Classical.

But no, what annoys me most about Radiohead (and with bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc.) is that they write so long, so boring, so soulless songs with no groove, no bounce, no life. It's all so... anaemic.

plastically
11-04-2003, 19:24:59
ahh it's full of beautiful moments. it's great to see a band being so mainstream and sucessful with their art.

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:33:12
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
But no, what annoys me most about Radiohead (and with bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc.) is that they write so long, so boring, so soulless songs with no groove, no bounce, no life. It's all so... anaemic.
So long? Based on a quick calculation the average length of their tracks is between four and five minutes. The Bends is only about four seconds longer, on average, than Bryter Layter by Nick Drake.

Who knows, but he does have a point dressed up in a lot of ponciness...albums like The Bends were very good, OK Computer had it's moments, but their more recent stuff is just too off-whack.
:confused:.

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:37:18
Quick comparison with two of Drake’s other albums showed that Pink Moon is significantly shorter, but Five Leaves Left is pretty much the same. Also, Remain In Light, by the Talking Heads, has a higher average track elngth than any Radiohead album.

(I am just picking CDs at random here.)

plastically
11-04-2003, 19:39:05
talking heads are amazing.

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:39:11
(Well, technically not random, but I grabbed at the middle of the nearest CD tower and got Nick Drake and the Talking Heads.)

Provost Harrison
11-04-2003, 19:39:39
What is perplexing you little Sean?

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:40:33
I guess to my ears it doesn’t exactly sound off-whack.

Provost Harrison
11-04-2003, 19:44:18
Well they just seem so pretentious nowadays, that is all...

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:46:05
So? It can still be good even if the band are just posing.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-04-2003, 19:49:14
Oh, forget the song length thing then. The only radiohead I actually own (as opposed to being forced to hear on MTV and the radio and stuff) is that song that was a hit way back with the animated video, which I can't remember the name of.

Plus I've started to like some longer music. Though not epic or drawn-out music as such.

Lazarus and the Gimp
11-04-2003, 19:50:52
Originally posted by plastically
no, but there is a mention of a person named "Lazarus and the Gimp" on the album... .Something about narrow minded assholes who can't spell.

The compulsion is too great. Which spelling error are you referring to?

Provost Harrison
11-04-2003, 19:53:44
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
Oh, forget the song length thing then. The only radiohead I actually own (as opposed to being forced to hear on MTV and the radio and stuff) is that song that was a hit way back with the animated video, which I can't remember the name of.

Plus I've started to like some longer music. Though not epic or drawn-out music as such.

Paranoid Android?

King_Ghidra@home
11-04-2003, 19:54:03
Originally posted by plastically
oh. we suck young blood. the best track on the album by far.

Haven't heard the rest yet, but that one certainly sounds good after the first listen. Reminds me quite a lot of 'life in a Glasshouse' from Amnesiac.

Sean
11-04-2003, 19:58:05
Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
The compulsion is too great. Which spelling error are you referring to?
Is a 100-0 really that important to you?

Oh, forget the song length thing then. The only radiohead I actually own (as opposed to being forced to hear on MTV and the radio and stuff) is that song that was a hit way back with the animated video, which I can't remember the name of.
:bounce:.

Lazarus and the Gimp
11-04-2003, 19:59:12
Originally posted by Sean
Is a 100-0 really that important to you?



Own goal.

Sean
11-04-2003, 20:00:45
Offside!

Lazarus and the Gimp
11-04-2003, 20:01:38
Funny, isn't it? I liked "Creep". Bought "The Bends" and loved it. Bought "OK Computer" and thought it was staring a bit too intently up it's own arse. Heard "Kid A" and thought it was Autechre Lite. Heard the first single off Amnesiac and decided they were taking the piss.

Sean
11-04-2003, 20:03:36
What, Pyramid Song?

And I don’t totally understand the Kid A - Authechre comparisons. Which is strange, as I own several Autechre CDs and Kid A.

Lazarus and the Gimp
11-04-2003, 20:06:17
Yup. Pyramid Song. It was about that time that Foetus (occasional poster here) renamed them "Boss-eyed Thom and his Bunch of Whingeing Fuckers".

Sean
11-04-2003, 20:07:40
:lol:.

plastically
11-04-2003, 20:19:21
Plus I've started to like some longer music. Though not epic or drawn-out music as such...


the short attention span of the average american is outstanding.

King_Ghidra@home
11-04-2003, 20:25:59
Originally posted by Sean
:lol:.

It might be mistake to admit this, but that punctuation is really starting to annoy me now :shoot:

While i'm here, Pyramid song taking the piss? I thought it was absolutely beautiful. I loved the non-syncopation.

Sean
11-04-2003, 20:28:57
Originally posted by King_Ghidra@home
It might be mistake to admit this, but that punctuation is really starting to annoy me now :shoot:
Post that in the nerd forum and I might consider writing a JavaScript Nav can add that turns punctuation after smilies off.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-04-2003, 20:32:03
non-syncopation? What, normal beats?

plastically: by drawn-out I mean a song that's longer than it needs to be. Epics, OTOH, just annoy me- bloated, pretentious, inactive bollocks. Short, sharp, that's what I say.

King_Ghidra@home
11-04-2003, 20:37:50
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
non-syncopation? What, normal beats?

:o err...i don't really know music words, i'm stuck in a wittgensteinian nightmare when describing music in any other way than 'this is fucking brilliant, made me dance like a loon'.

What i meant was that the drum beats and the piano bits are out of time with each other, which should just sound wrong but actually sounds brilliant.

Sean
11-04-2003, 20:38:59
I remember someone telling me that the Top of the Pops audience had real trouble with it.

protein
12-04-2003, 17:23:32
Pyramid song was beautifally synchopated. High art.