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MattHiggs
23-01-2002, 13:09:55
So, I've got Baldurs Gate 2 and Throne of Bhaal. I love them, I'm thinking about getting Diablo 2 tomorrow but is it any good?

I've heard it's more of a hack and slash, which I don't mind becasue everytime I make a character it's never a Mage or Druid.

Vincent Fandango
23-01-2002, 13:13:24
It's very different, a little like a FPS ... a little background story. Loads of monsters attack and you try to get the best items and cool spells.
It's addictive, if you like hack'n'slay games

MattHiggs
23-01-2002, 13:28:47
Hmm, If that what it's like then I don't think I would.

I've heard the multiplayer is good.

Resource Consumer
23-01-2002, 13:51:32
Don't buy it. {ducks the attacks from Diablo lovers}

Vincent Fandango
23-01-2002, 14:07:17
He's right. Buy Sim Golf instead

Mightytree
23-01-2002, 17:40:19
Don't listen to RC, that old confused gay twat. Go buy it, it's excellent.

Go to www.diabloii.net for some info.

Resource Consumer
24-01-2002, 12:48:54
How did I know he'd show up.

Vincent Fandango II
24-01-2002, 12:51:32
He hasn't played the SimGolf demo yet

Mightytree
24-01-2002, 15:34:26
And how did I know RC would show up.

The Mad Monk
24-01-2002, 16:09:59
...and how did I know that I would show up?

Funkodrom
24-01-2002, 16:14:20
I didn't expect The Mad Monk!

King_Ghidra
24-01-2002, 16:24:43
no one expects the mad monk

anyway how did i know i would finish that joke off?

Funkodrom
24-01-2002, 16:56:30
I knew someone would!

Vincent Fandango II
24-01-2002, 17:19:58
Who?

Shining1
25-01-2002, 07:21:26
Diablo2 is to Baldur's Gate what Return to Castle Wolfenstein is to Combat Mission.

Sirius Black
25-01-2002, 07:55:50
Shining is right. Diablo is VERY BG lite. Mostly action, with little role playing.

The Mad Monk
25-01-2002, 08:49:14
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

:)

I think there is also a very large 'card game' aspect to it--lots of of collecting and trading of high-level items.

Mightytree
25-01-2002, 09:40:31
Why don't you download the demo, Matt. That is if there is one, I don't really know.

Sirius Black
25-01-2002, 09:57:02
Hmmm, I didn't remember a Diablo II demo. But there is a Diablo 1 demo out there. D2 plays just about the same, just better graphics and some minor role playing added :D.

Mightytree
25-01-2002, 10:02:26
Go here (http://www.blizzard.com/diablo2/demo.shtml) for the D2 demo.

Shining1
26-01-2002, 03:50:28
Diablo2 does not have better graphics.

Mightytree
26-01-2002, 04:17:08
It does have better graphics.

:coolgrin:

Shining1
26-01-2002, 07:22:16
It does not have better graphics. Not, at least, until you get to 800*600. But the pixelation in Diablo2 is far far worse than in the original, and all the noir atmosphere of the original is lost in the big chunky, cartoony frames.

It does NOT have better graphics. Especially considering that the original game would run on a Pentium with 16 megs of memory, while the new game struggles to flow on anything less than a PIII. Diablo2 is one poorly programmed piece of crap, and nowhere does it show more than in the amount of power required to produce a 1997 quality illustration.

It does NOT have BETTER graphics. Similar, overall, maybe, although blockier in places. But graphically speaking, the two games are pretty much on par - although there is nothing in Diablo2 to match the really neat end game character models in Diablo - the warrior and Rogue especially, and the Nagas and Black Knights. Those were amazing.

IT DOES NOT HAVE BETTER GRAPHICS!

Mightytree
26-01-2002, 10:46:01
Lol. It does have better graphics. :coolgrin:

Seriously ... have you played D1 lately? I have. The D1 graphics you have in mind are probably better than what they really are from today's point of view. I know a lot of old games whose graphics impressed me quite a bit back when they were new. But when I start them up now I am surprised how much they actually suck because I had them better in mind.

Shining1
26-01-2002, 11:06:58
I'm just going on my absolute first impression when I started up Diablo2 the first time I got it. Pixels... oh my god, pixels... *horror*

Qaj the Fuzzy Love Worm
29-01-2002, 00:54:24
The graphics are about the same. Does that settle it?

Well, that's almost true. There are some quality issues with D2's graphics at the lower resolution, but then, at a lower res, what game doesn't look blocky?

The main difference I feel between D1 and D2 is flow. The gameplay of D2 just feels easier, due to the fact that you're not stuck in a grid. Plus, object detection is a BIG plus in D2. Alt key, wonderful. It's not so much of a click fest (though it is still one, so think what that says about D1!), and the game mechanics feel more robust and polished. The distinction between character classes and playing styles are more pronounced in D2 than in D1, with the differences REQUIRING you to play differently for most classes, wheras D1 was not quite so specialised.

Having first played D1 and thought it was okay, I then tried D2 which was okay, then went back to D1 on a nostalgia trip. It was not a pleasant experience, and I haven't touched D1 since. D2, while being a resource hog, does outperform D1 in nothing else if not ease of use.

If there's a demo, check it out. It wasn't the fastest selling game in history for nothing. And you could pick it up with the expansion, the updated strategy guide and Diablo 1 for $20 the other day on some on-line store. Bargain, I say.

Shining1
29-01-2002, 02:08:17
Hardly a fair comparison, since Diablo2 was designed with the flaws of Diablo in mind. So the Alt key, running, the stash, mana regeneration, etc, were all features implimented as a result of what was learned in D1.

This cannot be said for the graphics. And personally, I preferred the 'by squares' approach to the game - it made the pathfinding a lot better and allowed you to attack the monster you wanted to.