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Resource Consumer
09-03-2003, 18:59:15
OK, I am bankrupting myself building a DVD collection and seeking recommendations from you erudite people. Criteria generally are:

(1) Non-English language (i.e., generally no Brit or Yank movies in general - I know there are some good ones but I generally know which ones these are)
(2) Not dubbed

(bis) If English language then good "horror" films are acceptable (i.e., "The Wicker Man" is but "Zombie chainsaw legeaters IV" is not)

Advice welcomed...

Darlin
09-03-2003, 20:21:51
if its not spoken in english, then i have no suggestions! hehe :cute:

Noisy
09-03-2003, 20:51:31
Kurosawa

Scabrous Birdseed
09-03-2003, 21:52:32
Tarkovsky's original version of "Solaris", Francois Ozon's "Sitcom", several Swedish films not yet released on DVD.

Sean
09-03-2003, 23:00:43
The original Solaris is collossaly slow and, well, dull. I am actually considering watching the remake and favourably inclined toward it.

Having said that, which Swedish films? Is Lilja-4-ever any good? And which kind of Ozon film is Sitcom?

RC: I’ve absolutely no idea what you are looking for or what you will like, but Vacas (Cows) by Julio Medem is one of the best films ever. It squeezes several generations in the history of two Basque families into ninety minutes, yet never feels rushed.

Kurosawa is the best director Japan has ever had, but Miyazaki is still excellent. Mononoke Hime (Princess Mononoke) is a surprisingly mature and balanced man-vs-nature anime fable. It’s one of only two anime I’ve ever really liked.

Um. Anyway, for all I know we have completely different taste in films. And why just non-English?

Scabrous Birdseed
09-03-2003, 23:18:43
Originally posted by Sean
The original Solaris is collossaly slow and, well, dull. I am actually considering watching the remake and favourably inclined toward it.

I just did a review of the Solaris remake for the student newpaper. Do you want me to post it on here? I thought it was shite.

Having said that, which Swedish films? Is Lilja-4-ever any good?

I was going to recommend surrealist comedy The Adventures of Picasso and brilliant big-budget seventies actioner The Man on the Roof... But neither is out on DVD.

Everyone I know who has seen Lilja 4-ever said it was extremely harrowing, but brilliant. It's really not my kind of film, so I haven't seen it myself.

And which kind of Ozon film is Sitcom?

They're easily divisible into "kinds"? I've only ever seen the one. It's sort of David Lynch + Laurel and Hardy + Luis Buñuel / Lucille Ball.

Sean
09-03-2003, 23:24:19
May as well post it here, keep the clutter:useful answers ratio high.

I have seen two Ozon films: 8 Women, an Agatha Christie musical comedy thingy, which was hilarious, and Under the Sand, which was…not. Definitely not.

Scabrous Birdseed
09-03-2003, 23:30:20
Well, this is a surrealist farce that simultaneously tries to provide standard leftist subversive comedy of the "let's shock Mary Whitehouse by making every character gay" kind and traditional american sitcom humour. It messes with your head a lot.

Sean
09-03-2003, 23:39:35
:lol: for a split second I thought that was the Solaris review.

Scabrous Birdseed
09-03-2003, 23:45:17
:lol:

I haven't got that here unfortunately. ;)

Debaser
10-03-2003, 01:08:16
La Haine - Excellent french film
Battle Royale - Excellent Japanese film

Sean
10-03-2003, 02:04:18
Ah yes, La Haine is great. The new ADF album has a song tribute thing to it.

jsorense
10-03-2003, 04:53:16
Maybe I am a weak-minded mamby-pamdy but "Rosemary's Baby" creaped me out.:nervous:

Resource Consumer
10-03-2003, 09:36:24
Thanks all.

I have the original Solaris, yet it is slow but has more atmosphere and humanity than the remake which I saw on the plane.

I am not up to speed on Japanese films but will certainly ceck these out. Thanks.

Why "non-English". Perhaps I am an elitist.:D The truth is that I always have liked non-English films since I was a kid and spent my afternoons in the cinema at Southall. Habits just stay with you.

King_Ghidra
10-03-2003, 10:14:08
RC i just wrote a battle royale review so i'll back up debaser's earlier comment on that one :)

I also back up the kurosawa comments, i have the dvd's of both seven samurai and yojimbo and both are absolutely marvellous.

I am a huge Takeshi Kitano fan and heartily reccomend Violent Cop, Sonatine, Boiling point and Hana-bi, which i think are great films. Sonatine is probably the best, which is an utterly brilliant take on a gangster story about as far from the john woo world as possible.

Don't know if you've seen the three colours films, they're all good, although i found blue a bit tedious.

I've had a lot of the Dogme stuff reccomended to me although i have never seen any of it myself. I know one of my mates is a huge fan of Festen.

Umm...let me think...ah, Aguirre, Wrath of God is an incredible film, Klaus Kinski and werner herzog at their best.

hmm too many films too little time, i'll be back with some more suggestions :)

maroule
10-03-2003, 10:25:13
Some good suggestions here I back up :
Japanese
Hana-Bi
Princess Mononoke, but also Porco Rosso and Chihiro (both outstanding, but I'm partial to Miyazaki)

France (fairly random advices, but all magnificent)
Un mauvais fils, from Claude Sautais
Tandem, Patrice Leconte
Le festin de Babette, Gabriel Axel
La victoire en chantant, Jean Jacques Annaud
(you can buy them on Amazon.fr)

Festen is also brilliant

protein
10-03-2003, 10:27:49
You could try the film biography of Saddam Hussein's life that stars the brother he eventually had murdered by other members of his family.

Resource Consumer
10-03-2003, 10:44:59
Are you sure it was not a double?

Kory
10-03-2003, 17:59:15
Parasite Eve. Nothing like the game, but interesting to compare.

jsorense
10-03-2003, 21:24:28
R.C.,
Have you seen "Men with Guns" John Sayles [writer, director, editor] 1997? It is mostly in Spanish with English subtitles.
It is a haunting and moving film.
j

Sean
10-03-2003, 23:51:59
Originally posted by King_Ghidra
Don't know if you've seen the three colours films, they're all good, although i found blue a bit tedious.
Yeah, what’s up with that? Whenever people talk about the Three Colours films they talk about Red and Blue, Blue and Red. If it weren’t for Juliette Binoche, White would have been easily better than Blue.

RC: Cinema Paradiso, Delicatessen, City of Lost Children, Hairdresser’s Husband, and Show Me Love. (Sorry, I’m trying to keep it to a few at a time. I’ll just take this opportunity to ensure you buy Vacas over any other of my recommendations.)

Resource Consumer
11-03-2003, 12:17:09
I have ordered Vacas to start with:)

Debaser
11-03-2003, 12:24:16
I have a French film called Clubbed to Death which is quite good in a sort of light hearted love story kind of way. The film it's self isn't too amazing, but it's very nicely filmed (kind of like a 100minute music video) and has a great soundtrack. It shows lots of nice shots of some of the grittier parts of the Paris suburbs, and stars a really foxy chick.

Scabrous Birdseed
11-03-2003, 13:05:45
I thought Vacas was boring, if it's any help.

Resource Consumer
11-03-2003, 13:33:18
bit late now:)

Sean
11-03-2003, 14:42:52
Originally posted by Scabrous Birdseed
I thought Vacas was boring, if it's any help.
Even the scene where Peru finds out his mother is dead?

Scabrous Birdseed
11-03-2003, 14:46:58
To be fair I only watched bits of it.

Sean
11-03-2003, 14:49:31
Somehow I had that suspicion. I suppose I only technically watched bits of Solyaris because I kept throwing a tennis ball against the wall to relieve my boredom.

Resource Consumer
11-03-2003, 16:40:24
How many times did you throw the tennis ball?

Maybe we should have a tennis ball indicator for boredom...

Sean
11-03-2003, 16:50:27
I guess I could cover it in paint and cover the wall with a white sheet to find out.

maroule
11-03-2003, 16:58:21
if you had done it with a baseball, it would be a great movie reference

but as such, it just shows you're a dimwit

jsorense
11-03-2003, 17:02:39
That's just great, now how can I escape this thead?

Sean
11-03-2003, 17:41:54
Originally posted by maroule
if you had done it with a baseball, it would be a great movie reference

but as such, it just shows you're a dimwit
Well, if you find baseballs lying around when you go to play squash then that might be a valid dimwitticism.

jsorense
11-03-2003, 20:41:43
Babette's Feast: Danish
1988 Oscar for Best Foreign Film
Too mainstream?

Resource Consumer
12-03-2003, 09:47:52
Ordered that too on maroule's advice (actually, I remember seeing it on TV some 10 years ago)

Noisy
14-03-2003, 19:11:53
'Jean de Florette' and 'Manon des Sources'. (Apologies to maroule for any crap spelling.)

maroule
14-03-2003, 20:18:15
no apologies needed, the spelling is correct...
that bring us to Pagnol, of course the pre war trilogy (marius, cesar, and Ic an't rememebr the other one) is still considered a all time best by many in France.

Best modern french comedy would be 'le père noel est une ordure' (something like 'santa claus is a scumbag')

Lazarus and the Gimp
14-03-2003, 20:57:43
"Au revoir, les enfants"
"Sex and Lucia"

Sean
14-03-2003, 21:12:42
Is Sex and Lucia out on DVD yet?

Answering my own question: yes, it is. And region free!