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Greg W
05-02-2003, 21:35:28
Westwood go boom (http://www.avault.com/news/displaynews.asp?story=1302003-24843). :(

Asher
05-02-2003, 21:48:07
It's about time.

jsorense
05-02-2003, 21:48:24
Hi Greg!
Where ya been?
j

Deacon
05-02-2003, 23:11:49
I hope this doesn't mean we'll lose the evil bald guy. :)

Greg W
05-02-2003, 23:37:35
My bin's on the kerb atm, was rubbish night last night. :p

Nah, I been around some, just my grandfather died, and some other stuff going on with my family has kept me from being online much. :(

Funkodrom
05-02-2003, 23:45:10
Sorry to hear that. :(

Good to see you again anyway.

Venom
06-02-2003, 00:11:48
That is some serious shaftage on EA's part. Dare I say EA is trying to attain Devil Bastard status.

Shining1
06-02-2003, 03:55:01
Westwood gone, Command & Conquer not.

I never liked Westwood very much, they had a habit of crushing any innovation in their games. They released Command & Conquer about 5 times with progressively less evolution anywhere except in the graphics.

Can't remember any other games of theirs except Lands of Lore 2, which I got to play for a couple of hours and found was pretty shit.

Funkodrom
06-02-2003, 09:27:55
I only bought the first 2 C&C games. Would be nice to see it with some life breathed back into it.

Shining1
06-02-2003, 12:12:08
I've seen some great looking screenshots from Generals, and it sounds interesting - the whole U.S vs. China vs. Terrorists thing has a lot of potential for varying styles of play.

It also has an XP system vaguely like WarcraftIII, except that your general levels up without being present on the battlefield (easier to keep alive that way) and the units all gain experience as well.

I'm waiting for the reviews, but at the very least THERE IS HOPE:).

MDA
06-02-2003, 19:31:23
Originally posted by Shining1
Westwood gone, Command & Conquer not.

I never liked Westwood very much, they had a habit of crushing any innovation in their games. They released Command & Conquer about 5 times with progressively less evolution anywhere except in the graphics.

Can't remember any other games of theirs except Lands of Lore 2, which I got to play for a couple of hours and found was pretty shit.

The Hand of Fate was crap, too.

Resource Consumer
06-02-2003, 22:48:59
They created Maradonna?

Sean
06-02-2003, 22:58:02
Originally posted by Shining1
I've seen some great looking screenshots from Generals, and it sounds interesting - the whole U.S vs. China vs. Terrorists thing has a lot of potential for varying styles of play.
US: Protoss. China: Zerg. Terrorists: Terran(ist)s. So yes, it’s just a shame they caught onto the three-factions idea a little late. Generals does look interesting, though; it would be nice if Westwood at least made their last game a good one.

I never liked Westwood very much, they had a habit of crushing any innovation in their games. They released Command & Conquer about 5 times with progressively less evolution anywhere except in the graphics.
Yep, which is even worse considering how slowly Blizzard and Ensemble ‘innovate’. I swear what passes for innovation in RTS is just interface improvements.

Shining1
06-02-2003, 23:58:36
WarcraftIII could have fucking done with a few interface improvements.

The bulk of the innovation in that game was the Hero/XP system and the revised unit combat stuff (more hps, less damage, longer battles). AoM is perhaps more like that, although there is a lot of stuff in there to delight hardcore MP fans of the previous games.

I thought Westwood wasn't doing C&C Generals - the only association there is that the two producers behind it were former Westwood guys.

Sean
07-02-2003, 00:29:44
Whoops, my mistake. It was by the same team that did Red Alert 2, I think.

Shining1
07-02-2003, 06:04:08
Which was pretty much the game that saved that franchise from irrelevance after C&C2. (Though RA2 was definitely published by Westwood).

Shining1
07-02-2003, 06:06:32
BTW is that supposed to be Prince William?

Sean
07-02-2003, 14:01:32
:lol:.

Deacon
07-02-2003, 23:35:56
C&C2 was pretty disappointing, except for the movies. I extracted them and had a hoot watching them back-to-back. :)

I'd like to see an updated RA1. What really annoys me about my old favorite RTS games is the fixed resolution. Ecch.

Shining1
08-02-2003, 06:21:29
Yeah the movies were good, it just wasn't worth playing through the whole game for them.

I much preferred the C&C1/RA movies, though. Ones that addressed the player directly. That bit in the middle of the GDI campaign when Kane contacts you directly is great:).

Deacon
08-02-2003, 07:13:45
I loved Kane's sign-off. Something to effect of "...and you know you're gonna lose." The RA movies were great too. I loved the one at the end of the Allied campaign the most. The end of the Soviet campaign was okay, but I would have preferred if Kane had waited. But then again, I suppose that's why Kane has lived so long. :)

Shining1
08-02-2003, 11:47:11
She'd already proven to be a hideously effective assassin, after all:).

I liked the Russian campaign ones more, but the Allies really had their moments. "Yes, yes, very exciting!"

LoD
08-02-2003, 13:53:12
"Hitler iz out of the vay" :D.

LoD
08-02-2003, 13:54:03
But what pissed me off in RA was that the borders were post-Jaltan. Why the fuck, if Jalta never happened :)?