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KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 07:17:24
Get this. I load up Halo at around 12:50 tonight. I'm on level 9ish (where you're on the alien ship again) right at the beginning of the level. So I play through it. Not completely trivial, am on normal difficulty, only have a about 10 hours logged total so I'm still learning. I beat the level, see the nice little outro, get a feeling of satisfaction and am waiting for the next level to load so I can do that Save&Quit thingamajig.

Fucking machine crashes during loading. "Disk is dirty or damaged". Bullshit. This is a disk that only came out of its packaging 4 days ago, and it hasn't left the tray of the machine since. Box boots to setup screen, I open the tray check disk for blemishes, nada. Reinsert and in the dim hope that it saved my progress up until second to last checkpoint or something, I open my game. No fucking go. Beginning of the level again.

Fuck you.

maroule
05-02-2003, 08:17:24
never had any problem with it, on the xbox (I don't know if you're playing the PC version, or even if is out yet). I did have problems with other games though (fifa 02 crashed similarly twice).

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 08:33:10
Yup. Xbox. Got Halo for my birthday from girlfriend.

How damn hard would it have been to include an autosave feature that wouldn't be erased if the power went out or something?

maroule
05-02-2003, 08:36:25
what I don't get is that you do have an autosave, every 5 or 6 times in each level, so if that happens, you just come back to the previous segment of the level

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 08:41:17
But the machine doesn't actually save your progress on its hard drive; it keeps it in active memory or some such. If you turn off the game without doing the manual save, you'll lose all progress since last manual save.

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 08:42:45
That's why I'm wondering why the autosave doesn't do a save to hard drive. Admittedly it's a pain to watch that "do not turn off your console" screen for 3 seconds, but I'd rather that than lose 1:15 of progress.

maroule
05-02-2003, 09:23:16
ok, I see what you mean

it's a case of bad luck probably, and won't happen again.
It's a fab game, though, either alone or in multiplayer : I had a little lan extravaganza sunday, two large tv's, two xbox and 4 players (2vs2) on it, it was really very good

Nav
05-02-2003, 09:56:05
mate at work bought an Xbox when it came out. He took it back after half the games failed to work properly.

maroule
05-02-2003, 11:17:28
it's a rare occurence, frankly
and don't make me defend microsoft, please, I hate that

Nav
05-02-2003, 11:59:20
you defended microsoft (points) ha ha!

Shining1
05-02-2003, 13:56:15
Xbox, Xbox, you're my Xbox...:)

maroule
05-02-2003, 13:59:27
I... I.... just wanted to play on my TV... my friends forced me... LEAVE ME NOW *sob, rushes out*

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:23:05
The problem is the disc drive. It's a common problem across all game consoles, especially with the no-name DVD-ROMs Sony and MS both use now to cut cost (the original Xboxes like I have have a Philips DVD-ROM that works great :D)

It's under warranty for 90 days, so just get it fixed.

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:24:39
Originally posted by Nav
mate at work bought an Xbox when it came out. He took it back after half the games failed to work properly.
Your mate at work is a fucking retard.

DirtyDisk errors are infamous, if he even asked anyone who remotely had a clue they'd tell him to get it fixed for free under warranty.

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:28:47
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
But the machine doesn't actually save your progress on its hard drive; it keeps it in active memory or some such. If you turn off the game without doing the manual save, you'll lose all progress since last manual save.
It's part of the game's design. The only "hard" savepoints are at the end of each mission, and it would interrupt the flow of the game too much to have long pauses to save in the middle of the level. It does a quick autosave thing that takes about 0.5 seconds or less only, to act as a restore point incase you die.

It's not supposed to dirtydisk on you during gameplay and you're not supposed to turn it off either.

It's not like the levels in Halo are particularly long. On Normal difficulty it's not hard either.

Sean
05-02-2003, 19:31:22
What kind of industry would it be if people expected things to work and then had the gall to take them back when they don’t?! This is madness!

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:33:31
$5 says the DVD-ROM in his Xbox is a "Thomson" one, and it was made in the Mexico plant. :)

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:35:00
By the way, the problem with the PS2's is so bad there's a class action lawsuit against Sony in the state of California now: http://www.geocities.com/techboi88/index2.html

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 19:48:46
I have to admit that this is the first time it happened in a month and a bit of pretty active playing.

Is it actually worth the hassle to bring it back?

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:54:45
I'm not sure. For some people it's very rare, other people it's quite common.

Unless you got an extended warranty, the warranty expires 90 days after purchase. It costs a ton of money to repair a console for any reason after this expires (to the tune of $100US) and takes several weeks.

I think unless you've got an extended warranty you need to ship off the console to whoever MS subcontracts for repairs, which could be a real pain as well.

Asher
05-02-2003, 19:57:58
I think Futureshop has a 30 day return policy (I think that's where it was bought?), after that you need to deal with MS only.

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 20:21:04
I think it was bought at Club Price.

Need to talk to my parents...

Asher
05-02-2003, 20:23:03
Hmm. We don't have Club Price out west.

Is it like Costco?

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 20:28:36
I think they might have merged recently. Last time I visited one a year ago it was called Club Price/Costco

English version of Club Price used to be "The Price Club".

Asher
05-02-2003, 20:30:21
Ah, okay then. They did merge, I just wasn't familiar with the variation "Club Price".

KrazyHorse
05-02-2003, 20:57:54
En Québec on a des lois qui forcent les établissements commerciaux à écrire les signes principalement en français.

"Price Club" est anglais. "Club Price" est français.

I still call corner stores dépanneurs too...

Asher
05-02-2003, 21:02:26
My mom calls napkins serviettes (her father was from Quebec and she grew up there).

KrazyHorse
06-02-2003, 02:37:36
Went through level 9 again, saved at last checkpoint prior to end of level. Beat level, got same problem. Took disk out, did a really good cleaning job, reinserted, beat level again and managed to get through this time.

Oh, and beat the game. :D

Sir Penguin
06-02-2003, 02:59:46
My mom calls napkins serviettes (her father was from Saskatchewan, and she's never lived anywhere outside BC).

SP

Asher
06-02-2003, 03:07:13
Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Went through level 9 again, saved at last checkpoint prior to end of level. Beat level, got same problem. Took disk out, did a really good cleaning job, reinserted, beat level again and managed to get through this time.

Oh, and beat the game. :D
So the problem really was a dirty disk? :lol:

You haven't beat the game until you've beaten it on Legendary. The AI becomes really competent then, I've yet to beat it on legendary.

I loved the last level, it's great to end the game in a climax. :)